GTA02 power death

2012-12-22 Thread Dmitry Shalnoff

Hi everybody,

The situation:

I've use for a couple of month this battery
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Battery-Cell-Fit-RoHS-Garmin-GPS-Mobile-10-GPS-Mobile-10x-GPS10-/300575864789?pt=UK_In_Car_Technologyhash=item45fbb7b7d5

yesterday my device accidently start switching off (after night 
recharging) and make some strange buzzing on power on without any 
visible activity (screen was kept black). So I decide that is a known 
complete battery drain problem and try to animate the device with 
external power.


However, after several attempts I've got it booted. The screen picture 
was surprisingly inverted (!) but after sleep and awaking procedure it 
gets normal.


After that, I've got idea to measure the battery voltage and found that 
it is 4.1 v (instead normal 3.7). Eventually I deside to leave it as is 
and try to find the cause at morning. I switch it off and go to sleep.


Today I repeat operation with all similar symptomes (noise on power on 
without any other reactions) but without any success. Contrariwise, 
after several iterations of unsuccessful tries, when I power it on with 
battery and original USB adapter, it suddenly turned on for the second, 
then screen start gets brigther and finally I feel sweet smell of 
burning isolation :) I immediately remove all power sources, disassemble 
the device and found that I've burned some tiny IC near the PCF50633HN.


The question:

I digg all internets regarding the PCB layout but can't find anything 
relevant (there is no PCB layout on the wiki?). I suppose that was 
RT9013 (at least that only component in this schematic block that has 
similar package) but I'm not sure. Could anybody help me to identify 
this component?


here is HiRes picture of the patient
http://www.shalnoff.com/pics/freerunner_pcb.JPG
You easily find it by burning fume around it :)

except of that would be intereting to get some hints what the real 
reason cause this situation. And why LiPo battery can start to show 
4.1v?  I suppose that has some connection to the charging procedure (I 
use QTmoko without the non-original battery patch).


Thank you for any hints in advance!
Plan to purchase and resolder it.

Dmitry

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looking for used (or broken) GTA02 (whole or PCB) to purchase

2012-12-22 Thread Dmitry Shalnoff

Hi list!

Is there anybody have broken screen GTA02 for sale?
or maybe intact PCB after upgrade to GTA04?

I'll be appreciate for reasonable price or maybe somebody just could 
give it for free (almost free) after upgrade.


thank you in advance!
Dmitry


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Re: GTA02 power death

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Dmitry Shalnoff shaln...@gmail.com writes:
 here is HiRes picture of the patient
 http://www.shalnoff.com/pics/freerunner_pcb.JPG
 You easily find it by burning fume around it :)

Hi. I think that's the same that happened with another device i did
bass rework for. The large shield is too easy to tilt a bit and it can
touch the big capacitors shorting something to ground.

Nice pals at work helped me to desolder that inductor (with hot air
gun) and they found another that was similar enough (see the PMU
datasheet), and that revived the device.

You can find BOM, component placement etc at
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/

Good luck!
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Re: GTA02 power death

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Fertser
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:38:56AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
 Dmitry Shalnoff shaln...@gmail.com writes:
  here is HiRes picture of the patient
  http://www.shalnoff.com/pics/freerunner_pcb.JPG
  You easily find it by burning fume around it :)
...
 found another that was similar enough 

I found some IRC log and it looks like the inductor you need should be
rated for = 2MHz and = 500mA current. But i'm not sure about the
details, that was so long ago. I just remember that they found
something that was physically smaller and of similar specs.

Desoldering with hot air requires expertise, i wouldn't probably
attempt it myself even now: if you shake the board accidentally,
you'll shake off other components too.

HTH
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