[zomg] imporant

[Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster]

if you are using ZOMG! please update. there was a really bad bug in 
prior version which could break you feeds - dont't panic it is 
reversible. just check opkg.org or the wiki page for more info

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Call for SMS templates

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qpe hat an sms template managemnet. tthe shr apps don't.
if the community wants it i'm gonna write a keyboard layout consisting 
of sms templates.
before i can start i need to know which templates are wanted/needed.
if there is enough response i'll post one tomorrow (the contents of the 
kbd file) containing the suggestions ( i think one day should be enough 
to gather the most common ones).

i will let the mail containg the sauce of the kbd file then cycle so 
that it can be localized ( i only speak english and german, so i'll do 
the german localisation

my suggestion would be a row of the most common smiley/emoticons
next rows: (mybe using pngs instead of text if you have any ideas, 
please also append png files - don't bother i'l make them all look 
monolithic) Yes, something like "later" or @work. will call you later.

i am also posting this at the german freeyourphone forum. so the mail 
tomorrow will also contain the suggestions gathered from there

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Introducing Repo Management

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Since i got an inquiry i added Repo Management to ZOMG!. wiki page, 
opkg.org page got updated

Screenie: 
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/7f0b94299e89c9b5d3d485ee85c37758.png


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Re: Repos

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Kosa schrieb:
> Yep, you are rigth, but be careful about mixing feeds, it might break 
> you system.
>
> Kosa
>
> - Un mundo mejor es posible -
>
> Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster escribió:
>   
>> Did i get it right that when adding/removing a feed i can leave 
>> arch.conf untouched?
>>
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Thx. i was a bit confused, because of the wiki page (the section abput 
the Ångström feed).
i was asking, because currently i am adding graphical user-frinedly repo 
management to ZOMG!

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Repos

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Did i get it right that when adding/removing a feed i can leave 
arch.conf untouched?

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Graphical Package Manager...

[Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster]

...now packaged: http://www.opkg.org/package_96.html
i know i didn't get a lot of responses, so it seemded to me, that nobody 
is interessted, but maybe someone really does care, or just didn't want 
to try it, because there was no package available.

what i am really happy about is, that someone came up with another 
package manager (http://www.opkg.org/package_85.html). diversity is 
wonderful and so i voted for his app...

still... it would be nice if someone tested ZOMG! because the only 
feedback i got was from two folks who rellay liked it, but that wasn't 
really what i  consider contructive criticism...



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Opkg front-end "ZOMG!" updated

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new version is out.
still no features added, but i re-wrote most of the code.
now it is faster and doesn't care anymore if you use cacao or jamvm (i 
recommend jamvm, because it is damn fast and small)

further info can be optianed at the wiki: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ZOMG!#Update_22.2F12.2F2008

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Re: openmoko opkg update issue

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Ketaki Deo schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I am a student working on openmoko.
> I followed the instructions on the getting started will openmoko wiki 
> and tried to update my neo freerunner with the command,
>
> opkg update
>
> But it gave me the signature check failed error, so i changed the URL 
> to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2
> But it is still giving me the error and not downloading any packages.
> Can anyone please help me resolve this issue?

what you did was not very intelligent. you should undo you cahnges!
that signature errors are normal, because currently there are no signatures

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Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

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Dylan Reilly schrieb:
> FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlightenment on my
> OM testing build device by disabling drop shadows. After recent
> updates from testing (which should be more or less the 2008.12 image)
> Enlightenment was constantly grabbing 20% CPU and who knows how much
> IO. After I obliterated the drop shadow module,
> (/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow) only 1-2% CPU is being
> used.
>
> Moreover, I remembered some recent post(s) tentatively linking the
> Software-16 crashes (when using the illume theme) to drop shadows. On
> a whim I re-enabled that engine and am not seeing any problems. So,
> now I get a snappier UI to boot.
>
>   
WOOHOO!!! you made my day

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
>  babbled:
>
>   
>> This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last 
>> time 
>> it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
>> can be this time?
>> 
>
> icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
> "works for me" bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
> never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE
>
>   
Petr pointed it out quite good. The list time i tried SHR, the icons 
didn't show up.
I found out that this particular e configuration/version/wahtever was 
very picky, so i had to handcraft all .desktop files i needed.
i made them with touch and echo commands and it finally worked.
i cant give you any detailed infos, because it was quite some time ago.
all i can tell you is that Petr Vanek's hint is a good one and you 
should play around a little in that direction.

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

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Lothar Behrens schrieb:
> Yes, I have it installed on flash and not on SD card.
>
> But why is it there ?
>
> Is it a copy, backup ?
>
> Lothar
>
> Am 20.12.2008 um 21:06 schrieb Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster:
>
>> Lothar Behrens schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading
>>> other success stories :-)
>>>
>>> Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know
>>> for what this file is for:
>>>
>>> /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite
>>>
>>> What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because
>>> it seems to be a sqlite database :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Lothar
>>>
>>> -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de
>>> <http://www.lollisoft.de>
>>> Lothar Behrens
>>> Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2
>>> 73252 Lenningen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>> it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps,
>> messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am
>> quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash
>> (you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)
afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
sdcard (see wiki: "Pre-Flash Backup" i don't remember the path, but it 
is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)


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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

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Lothar Behrens schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading 
> other success stories :-)
>
> Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know 
> for what this file is for:
>
> /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite
>
> What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because 
> it seems to be a sqlite database :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Lothar
>
> -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de 
> 
> Lothar Behrens
> Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2
> 73252 Lenningen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps, 
messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am 
quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash 
(you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

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Yorick Moko schrieb:
> downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:
>
> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 7, in 
> from app import logger, gui
> ImportError: No module named app
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Al Johnson
>  wrote:
>   
>> You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code
>> written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes.
>> Follow the link if you want to see the details.
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html
>>
>> On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
>> 
>>> I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
>>> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
>>> but when i try to run it I get
>>>
>>> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
>>>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
>>> print usage
>>>   ^
>>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>
>>> I'm probably doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> y
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:
>>>   
 Hello.

 I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
 of om-manager.

 Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
 Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
 get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
 it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
 (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
 Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
 extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
 perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
 application is pure Python.


 Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

 Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
 happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
 functionality or coding style.

 It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
 alone.

 I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
 defined as "officially supported operating systems".

 Thank you.

 
Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how 
windows handles ssh?
(the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything 
alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to 
use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian

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Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)

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Tobias Diedrich schrieb:
> e...@ericanddebbie.com wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need  
>> a change).  If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know?
>>
>> Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just  
>> couldn't go through all of them.
>> 
>
> I'm using
> http://www.8bitpeoples.com/mp3/get/432/8bp069-01-she-nebula.mp3
> from 8bitpeoples album 069.
>   
I am using the metal gear solid codec ringone (ask google where to get 
it, i don't remember)

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ZOMG! new version (in case somebody cares)

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fixed one annoying bug
speeded up the whole thing a little bit (overall performance should now 
be *slightly* better)
...so no feaures added, but since i am currently sick and therefore not 
going to work for a few days i managed to find some time to clean up the 
code a little (the project is still work in progress)

for dl/update instructions please refer to the wki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ZOMG!#Update_20.2F12.2F2008

tested on om2008.testing and it works flawlessly

i'm considering a rewrite from opkg-frontend to jni using libopkg... if 
soemone can point me to a decent libopkg api documentation...


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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

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Paul schrieb:
>> I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my 
>> Freerunner 
>> revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely 
>> gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the 
>> coolest _phone_ I've ever had.
>> 
>
> Good for you. I had a look at the PDF and already know I am not going to 
> attempt that. I know what side of a soldering device to hold, and that's 
> where my knowledge ends...
>
> ;-)
> Paul
>   
Even if you had more knowledge: a decent smd soldering device can be 
nearly as expensive as the fr. That's why I dont own such a thing (had a 
cheap one-> broke down ->no warrenty ->me running around swearing -> me 
opening the case -> me finally smashing the whole thing with sledgehammer)


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Re: No more optimization team

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edit:
yes, the battery life sucks at the testing image (on 2008.9 i had 40 
hours, which is not great, but since i come at least every second day, 
this was not a problem)
--- Begin Message ---

Gothnet schrieb:


Olivier Migeot wrote:
  

Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on
their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first
release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement,
who could claim such dedication? ;) 




In a closed world OM would have been panned, the devices returned and
probably have been forced out of business by now.

Openness is great. FOSS is great. Working base functionality is more
important though. After trying to live with the freerunner and OM2008 for a
month I bought another phone. My FR is also doing a good impression of a
brick most of the time.
  
Maybe i'm teh luckiest guy in the universe, but i've been using my fr as 
a daily phone without problems (i am always reachable, i don't even know 
what wsod is, echo is there, but barely noticable, no buzz, te testing 
image is *FAST*)
there are some issues (e.g. i don't like the qpe apps), but the basics 
are working RELIABLY.
the antenna the put into the pill is awesome: i am the only person at 
the pub, who has reception (which is not always a good thing, becaus 
there are so many annoying folks out there who keep stealing my time).


i am using the testing image (but i also have a backed up 2008.9 which 
is working perfectly, but slower than the testing, which is why i 
switched to testing)


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Re: No more optimization team

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Gothnet schrieb:
>
> Olivier Migeot wrote:
>   
>> Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on
>> their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first
>> release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement,
>> who could claim such dedication? ;) 
>>
>> 
>
> In a closed world OM would have been panned, the devices returned and
> probably have been forced out of business by now.
>
> Openness is great. FOSS is great. Working base functionality is more
> important though. After trying to live with the freerunner and OM2008 for a
> month I bought another phone. My FR is also doing a good impression of a
> brick most of the time.
>   
Maybe i'm teh luckiest guy in the universe, but i've been using my fr as 
a daily phone without problems (i am always reachable, i don't even know 
what wsod is, echo is there, but barely noticable, no buzz, te testing 
image is *FAST*)
there are some issues (e.g. i don't like the qpe apps), but the basics 
are working RELIABLY.
the antenna the put into the pill is awesome: i am the only person at 
the pub, who has reception (which is not always a good thing, becaus 
there are so many annoying folks out there who keep stealing my time).

i am using the testing image (but i also have a backed up 2008.9 which 
is working perfectly, but slower than the testing, which is why i 
switched to testing)

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Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

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Neil Jerram schrieb:
> 2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer :
>
>   
>> Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package,
>> most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it
>> is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can
>> update directly from debian.
>> 
>
> Thanks, that will be fantastic.  Debian is already wonderfully
> hackable, but not so good on the use-as-a-phone front, so it sounds
> like Debian+your "hackable" will be just the ticket.
>
>  Neil
>   
quote:


Current issues

Messages starts but does not send the message -> minor dbus issue
if it is minor, do you guys have any idea how long it will take to 
resolve the issue

and i am confused:
some of the things you mentioned as features are still in the "open 
tasks" section of the wiki.
is the wiki outdated? (i already took a look at the wiki about 10 days ago).



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Re: qwerty keyboard

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Yogiz schrieb:
>> what about that:
>> decompile the asu and the illume theme with edje_decc (follow wiki 
>> instructions)
>> then copy the keyboard part from the illume.edc into the asu.edc
>>
>> the buildscript will probably reporte an error about "size:...not
>> known" or something like that. delete the line that causes the error
>> and re-run build.sh. i customized my theme, when i was using 2008.9
>> and it worked (you have to copy the pngs that the illume theme uses
>> for the virtual keyboard into the aus.theme working directory,
>> ofcourse!) this should work, since you already have the qwerty button
>> in the top bar
>>
>> backup your asu theme (just the edj file) before you try this
>> 
> Alright, I tried it today but build.sh keeps complaining that the png-s
> arent there although I copied them into the same folder from the illume
> one. Are they "declared" somewhere or what's wrong?
>
> r...@om-gta02:# ls bt_dis_hilight.png
> bt_dis_hilight.png
> r...@om-gta02:# sh build.sh 
> edje_cc: Error. Unable to find image name "bt_dis_hilight.png".
>   
One stupid question: is this the first image that is linked? (not by 
alphabetical order, by line-number)

remote-diagnostics without additional info is quite thing
would you dare to email a compressed (zip/tgz/ar/whatever) version of 
your working directory?
...maybe directly to the ml... shouldn't be such a big file since the 
asu theme doesn't use many pics

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

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Leonti Bielski schrieb:
> Hello!
> As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes.
> I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it
> would be interesting to know something about next open phone.
> Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML.
> Does someone know how everything is going with gta03?
> 1. What case design is chosen?
> 2. What gsm chip?
> 3. How will it be called?
> 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ?
> 5. Price estimate.
>
> Leonti
>   
If i were openmoko (some person inside who knows about it), i would not 
answer this questtion(s), because some people would react like "omg, you 
are rippig us off. I still can't use my fr as a daily phone. the 
optimization team was disbanded, because you guys are focusing on the 
next gen device, while the fr still lacks a lot of features/stability/etc.."
just my opinion


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Re: odd behavior of illume keyboard

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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:56:36 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" 
> babbled:
>
>   
>> Bernd Prünster wrote:
>> 
>>> i want to add the beta (ß) character to my layout, but it it only works 
>>> if i quote it to use the dict
>>>
>>> code:
>>> key 0 28 12  12
>>>   normal   ß "ß"
>>>   shift? question
>>> /code
>>> if i remove the quotes it doesn't send the character
>>> any help/suggestions?
>>>   
>> Have you tried using "ssharp" (that should be the x keycode for ß)?:
>>
>> key 0 28 12  12
>>   normal   ß ssharp
>>   shift? question
>> 
>
> then you wont be able to use dictionary lookups as when u send a keysym the
> word is finished. sending strings means you are sending parts of a word. just
> keep the quotes. i am entirely baffled why you want to remove them - they have
> specific functionality and meaning that "makes things work". they were 
> intended
> to be there in this use case so keep them :)
>
>
>   
The english dictionary is awesome - period.
Ther germant dicts i tried suck. personally i have no problem writing my 
messages is english.
sad but true, not all of my folks would understand my messages if i 
wrote the in english, that is why i don't want to use the dict.
another argument is that i don't use correct spelling, and words that 
don't really exist, which would change if i found a germna dictionary 
that is as awesome as the english one, that ships with illume

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