Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi! Thanks for sharing the information! I managed to get calibration right by copying the xglamo and libts.0* files from 2007.2 image to debian and starting xfce via ssh. It worked then with the standard /etc/pointercal from the 2007.2 image. But I then had the problem, that gdm didn't recognize the ts anymore at all and only if I started xfce by ssh did it recognize the ts. Mysterious problems, but I am sure that they will be solved soon! good luck, edistar On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Gregoire Gentil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: band issue
Hello, Why not ask (for example) trisoft.de personally? I am sure that they will try to arrange something if it is possible for them. Regards, Edwin Lock On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Masoom Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Till when OpenMOKO plans for 900 Band to be availalbe on its own site, beside in Europe? Actually from Europe, it is not possible to directly ship to Pakistan, however, with from OpenMOKO site, it is. Or can any body point out a store in Europe, where there is possible to ship it directly to Pakistan. Regards, MM Alam On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, that is the one I don't know if they ship to Pakistan, you better ask them: http://www.idasystems.net/contact_us On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Masoom Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please specify that indian seller. I think it is IDA systems right? does that seller ship it to Pakistan? any information On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but whether we will get it or not. why wouldn't you get it if you order it and pay for it? ps: there is an indian reseller, maybe that way will be cheaper for you? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Masoom Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Till when it will be available in the 900/... Bank.. Secondly, the OpenMOKO website suggests that UPS will deliver it to Pakistan with an additional cost of 101.xx$. Can any body provide me some clue that if this possible at all, i mean we will order it, but whether we will get it or not. Thanks, MM Alam On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in Pakistan the 900/1800 freq are used so they should be fine, if you get the 900/1800/1900 vers. It is the same vers shipped in Europe. It is important because if you do get the 850/1800/1900 version some operators will not work at all. 2008/7/8 Shaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have openMoko been made for bands available in Pakistan? Are they ready for shipment? I am curious because openmoko site has shipment available for Pakistan but are they considering the band regulations of pakistan? -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, MM Alam SERG Pakistan http://serg.imsciences.edu.pk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, MM Alam SERG Pakistan http://serg.imsciences.edu.pk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, MM Alam SERG Pakistan http://serg.imsciences.edu.pk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko official resell partners
Hi, TRIsoft is collaborating with Golden Delicious.. so if you have preordered on the TRIsoft site there should be no problem at all. Edwin Lock On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is trisoft.de not an official reseller? Which reseller will receive the first phones? thx. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 11.06.2008 11:43 An: List for Openmoko community discussioncommunity@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Openmoko official resell partners Dear Community, You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller in the Germany and India. Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy freerunner from them for save your shipping cost and time. We also have a formal press will release to public later. Germany Golden Delicious Computers- _http://www.goldelico.com _Dr.Nikolaus Schaller UK TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood Besides, I am talking with CEO of Bearstech France about cooperation, so far they are very closely to become my next official partner. BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway
Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best to mail TRIsoft about this). Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350 Euro + shipping). www.trisoft.de/openmoko On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hei I have heard that only people from Asia and US can buy from OpenMoko And that people fra Europe have to buy from trisoft. The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399€ I do NOT know if this is true or correct Is this true? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Official Reseller
Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538(german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049(german) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSoC Freerunner
I (not affiliated with OM inc. at all) would say it's very probable, 90% or so that the gta02 will be selling at the begin of june. I'm looking forward to it! Edwin Lock On 3/18/08, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to ask - what is probability of Greerunner hardware to be ready by the summer? (aka Will I have my Freerunner when GSoC starts?) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request
Everyone would take out the battery just because they have a feeling that the might be bugged? You'd have to set the time/date anew everytime etc.. It would be much more convenient if somehow you could be sure that when its off it really is, and I think with OM you can be quite sure :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810
If anyone gets openmoko to run on a nokia 770 tablet, please let me know, that would be so cool! Just to test OM and not having to use maemo all the time :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release date of GTA02
No, it's not known yet when the GTA-02 will be available, but it looks like december/january. At least that's what the openmoko team is trying if I believe rightly? And no, it can't be preordered yet. Hope it will be available soon :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rumors of OpenMoko's demise are greatly exaggerated
Exactly, and as far as I can see Openmoko has come a long way. And the hardware is important too, I really like the GTA02 and am looking forward to buying it. Once Openmoko is a stable and powerful OS I will be able to do so much with it. Much better than an OSS-android and CSS software by the manufacturers of the specific phones. Also I wouldn't be looking forward to googles ads on a mobile.. Just imagine getting ad-sms based on your regular personal content! So, I think there are enough reasons why Openmoko is better, and FIC would be very thoughtless to let it die.. But I would be very interested by an (un)official statement by one of the openmoko guys about android! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Small menu bar
The maemo OS 2007 has two menus, one for finger and one for stylus, somehow it can detect(I suppose bigger surface diameter) whether a stylus or a finger is used, the finger menu then is much bigger, very handy! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).
So you have to get used to it every time again? doesn't seem like a very good idea. My experience is that people like to get used to things and do them like the got used to, not change.. - Edwin On 26/08/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:36, Lars Hallberg wrote: Josef Wolf skrev: [ I warm-up this old thread again... ] On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote: a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be an usable and pretty efficient input method. http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/ This looks very promising. I like this idea. The only issue I see is that the least used characters (numbers) are the easiest to enter. IMHO, the mostly used characters should be accessible without dragging. I think it's a good default as it reuses the users knowledges from t9 systems. It's important to be easy to pick up. But an alternative layout optimised for text input is good, as is a possibility for power users to define there own layout, or even special layout for different programs/tasks. /snip /LaH What about a continuously variable system which starts with the most commonly used letters and then adjusts itself based on user input. It could learn which letters a specific person uses to type and make them more prominent. Then, depending on modes the programming or web searching or other keyboards would automatically adapt to the best layout based on the users individual behavior. --Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots? (was: Balancing simplicity with complexity)
Then make sure that the system does never respond slowly! ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WINNING NOTIFICATION...CONTACT YOUR CLAIMS AGENT IMMEDIATELY!..
You want to accept money from MS? Would be quite ironic :P A little strange that MS would not check their randomly selected winners.. They might just want to give us a chance ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reason for openmoko - bugsafe?
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92713 Hello Openmokoers! This is actually the reason that I got to read about the openmoko, I read an article about mobile phones being bug-able some time ago and googled for an open linux phone. And I found the openmoko ;) Just a quick question, what the police are doing, described in the article, is this only software or can that be done with only the gsm chip or so? My question is actually: Is the neo protected against this kind of bugging or not? It's not that I'm a terrorist or so but I just don't feel very safe otherwise ;) Greetings, Edwin Lock PS: Sorry, the article is in german.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Support for Left handers
Hello, I heard that red/green colour 'illness' (the most colourblind people just can't see any difference between red and green or blue and green, like me:P). So one could just avoid these colours to make differences.. For example in gaim on the maemo platform people who have written are marked as red and the others green, or vice versa, I have no idea actually as I can't see it ;). But it is very annoying... Shouldn't be hard to look out for :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for openmoko - bugsafe?
Thanks a lot for all the answers! My main point was if the state, well, anyone who had connections to the carriers, could turn the neo into a bug too.. And it seems that it isn't possible cause of the software mixer being off when the device is off :) And david? I use gmail, yes ;) Luckily I can still control and decide what I write in gmail;) My concern was that the state, or carrier, could arbitrarily record everything in the surrounding. I reckoned they could record my conversations, sadly ;) Just to clarify, I wouldn't use gmail if it grabbed all my TCP/IP output of my pc and searched every file on my pc. As long as I know what google does and gets I am satisfied. I hope you understand. Lastly, why do you get the idea that I choose that phone cause it is more safe? I just got to read about it that way, I plan to buy it because of it's fantastic possibilities, both software and hardwarewise, touchscreen, linux, a lot of apps(ported and native) etc. But I am sure you know exactly why the neo is so great :) Thanks again! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Again: Advertising thoughts
But you shouldn't forget the people who aren't so technical and still want to have a phone that can do a lot, there are loads running around with win mobile phones. They won't be attracted by the ads showing how they can be freed, cause they won't care if they are free or not, they just want to be able to use the thing. So maybe some ads could also just show how very easy the neo is to work with ;) Just my thoughts.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Support for Left handers
I am left-handed too. And I noticed on my nokia 770 a lot of interaction is needed on the right side, not only the scrollbar but also the exit button etc. Maybe there would be a way to just turn the window around, left side to the right, and vice versa? Should be a pretty basic thing to implement, in the framework? Would be very great because that may also be another marketing point, openmoko being adjusted to left-handers :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Support for Left handers
I would agree, I didn't really think when saying it should be mirrored ;) I thought about it and at the moment I think only the scrollbar should be changed.. But I am still a little confused about how an application gets closed? I can't see an X anywhere, and I couldn't find any information in the wiki just now.. Because that might be handier on the left-hand side too if it isn't already.. Just my 0,02€ ;) OT: Anyone have information about emulating openmoko in OS X? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Advertising/hype
I think youtube is a very good means to spread some adverts.. Why not try it that way? A lot of people/products have been promoted that way :) Edwin Lock ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic :) When will Phase 2 be ready? 3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment is best for such a small screen.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
secure encrypted phoning..
Maybe a bit OT, but: Is there a way to implement the kind of encryption that the cryptophones( http://www.cryptophone.de/) use? Would be very interesting as more customers could be caught that way.. And secondly it would be very cool to say that you can telephone completely secretly :) The source is supposed to be open...( http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/42155) Greetings, Edwin Lock ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wishlist: IR LED (was Freq Range?)
IR LED would be perfect! Just think, normal mobiles like my siemens can't access the IR hardware because java(on the siemens) doesn't allow it. Only symbians can access IR as far as I know.. It would be brilliant if I could use the openmoko as a remote for my hifi and my pc maybe, and for tv, anything with IR! Is there a IO pin spare? Then I'd just add the LED myself, as long as someone tells me how to... Please, someone tell me that there is a spare pin... (just my 2 cents and wishes :]) Greetings, Edwin ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?
I have flash on my nokia 770, that works fine and its an ARM9 if I'm correct? So why not use the implementation that nokia has? It works just fine for me.. Greetings, Edwin Lock ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
