Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Andrea Debortoli wrote: I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be available some days after... I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :( I'm not so happy about this decision, btw... I say ship it! if FIC was a closed source product, no-one would've known. Thank goodness the guys are communicating with us. If the fix is a simple transistor replacement, the mentioned alternative of adding the transistor to the v5 package for after marktet replacement is a groovy idea. Many of the guys keen on this phone will not hesitate one second to solder a new component. The ones that don't trust they can solder SMD know who they are by now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: digital compass modules
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, Schmidt András wrote: François TOURDE wrote: Right! That was an other possible solution I was thinking about. Though I think that algorithm should be very carefully implemented (a very sensitive regulator filter) not to accumulate the measurment error of the accelerometer, and corrigate with the GPS signal when possible. I am not even sure it is possible. Precision would get worse when you are moving slow and shake the device (the case on foot). The regulator code would also consume much energy. Direct measurment of direction seems to be much better for me. These are only speculations with little information and no experience with such devices (accelerometer and magnetic sensor in fact). GPS combined with INS? I think the accelerometers aren't accurate enough for INS ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: digital compass modules
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, Denis wrote: I think the accelerometers don't provide enough accuracy. For INS you need both 3d axial as rotational accelerometers. For a quick check how it works, check out the wikipedia. One of the first big uses was Nautilus under the Polar ice cap. The combo could work, if you have enough info, but two (or three) axial meters can not do rotation. You could do it with 2 axial meters on each plane. The difference between the two is the moment on the device. So with 6 accelerometers you might give it a shot. If they are accurate enough, you might be able to remove the GPS jitter. 2008/1/23, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 23. Januar 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann: François TOURDE wrote: Maybe the 3D accels can do that. And the GPS can be used as a bearing indicator, when you move. No magnetic device needed in this case. As stated in prev posting, GPS _can_not_ deliver bearing of device at all. Imagine having the GTA in your pocket while moving - there's not the faintest relation between movement vector as seen by GPS and bearing of GTA. Gyroscopes is what you look for. ;) Accelerameters don't see rotational movings. Though gyro won't help here at all, i think TWO 3D-accelerometers placed some distance from each other in a system make a nice gyro with the aid of some mathematics in driver. IIRC there was mentioned more than one acc-meter for the GTA. I thought that's exactly for this purpose. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Professional applications
On Friday 30 November 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: And you... what about your expectations as a professional tool ? All depends on definition of 'professional tool'. For me gVim is professional tool for example ;) Well, any person that actually took the time to learn (g)Vim will have no trouble agreeing that it is a professional tool, so that stands stands as definitive! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA02v4?
On Thursday 25 October 2007, andutt wrote: Hi Steven Thats no problem, i can be very patient. I think what the community want is just a date, when the device is planned to be shipped. The problem with that is that a company feels pressurised to release something that can't meet the expectations that were planned. Most businesses are rather quiet about planned releases. That is not without reason. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki application list.
I want to order a GTA-01, but some questions still remain. 1: What is the status of various developments in the applications. The wiki lacks enough informaiton. Is something like this list possible? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#Write_low_level_code_and_drivers 2: To what extent is it possible to use the phone as my daily phone? Are the basic apps good enough? 3: How long does the device run on a battery? 4: is the uboot bootloader stable enough to make a basic model sufficient? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware/Software UI Relationship
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 09:50, Giles Jones wrote: My favourite for main UI is a text input tool at the bottom, where you input a progressive search term, say we br... That might match: web browser (app) tux web broadcast (web bookmark, document) Werner Brown (contact) Wera Brooks (contact) Wera Brooks at the pub (photo, document) etc.. The matching object is shown on top and selectable. Size on those object can depend on number of matches and can be compacted in intelligent ways like: [contacts 3] [document 12] [apps 2] That sounds very similar to QuickSilver on the Mac, it works really well. You start typing and then it provides matching documents, webpages, applications etc.. it's very fast. I have no experience with the Mac, but playing around with the emu did bring up a few questions/alterations that would be nice. I checked out the terminal, but found it almost impossible to use with the Qwerty kb without tab completion. It would be nice to have a dropdown box instead of the tabcompletion. One or more dropdown boxes appear. At first only one to select the command. The command receives a shortlist determined by qwerty entries. After selecting the command, more dialogues apear. one for the options and one or more for the other command entries. From the options one can select an option and it gets added to the commandline. Command entries are often entering a path. It starts with the / and one can select the path per dir. The command gets expanded and pressing enter executes it. The terminal must be functional. I'll have a look at the code and whether I can add something like this to play with. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gentoo qemu (was Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment)
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 16:14, Al Johnson wrote: My typo - no mail client configured on that machine. The issue is that with gcc-3.4.6 configured mtn --version returns the not found errors above, so it never gets to build qemu. With 4.1.2 mtn works, but qemu fails to build even though it's configured to use gcc-3.4.6 by the mod to the makefile. My home machine is a reasonably up to date Gentoo. I guess I did an update of the about 2 weeks ago. I first did the mokomake at home. The make failed on the qemu-build step. I added the --cc=gcc-3.4.6 and the make still failed (unfortunately I can't remember on what). A remake of setup-devel-image solved the problem and the system is working at home. My work machine is also a reasonably new Gentoo install. I just migrated my work machine to Gentoo less than a week ago. I added --cc=gcc-3.4.6 to my mokomakefile, but that was it. For the rest the system compiled cleanly. without hickups. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A little bad press? OpenMoko already facing difficulties?
On Friday 13 July 2007 23:54, Simon wrote: Also, the fact that negative aspect of this quest for freedom is being shared, is so you can feel the reality of the challenge too. All in all, these are all secret techniques to induce genuine happiness in all of you who are waiting! =) I'm glad to read the post on the blog! Each company/product has its problems. Some struggle with patchy software, badly designed hardware or other technical problems. Some suffer from a cocaine hungry boss that manages to stuff up the cashflow. Some suffer from logistical problems or growning too fast. Business will not be without problems. I'm glad, though that the general opinion is not a technical problem. That means that I can quietly have fun once the logistical dilemma has managed to get the phone to me. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote: The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric I understood from his post that a discount on a complete unit for buyers of the dev phones is also an option. Somewhere I read that it is still unclear whether a direct transplant of motherboard is possible. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
