Google Phone is coming...
They are building a linux smart phone manufactured in Taiwan by a company who has a 3 letter abbreviation? Strangely, that sounds familiar. Why doesn't Google join Openmoko/Neo? I wonder if Openmoko could be flashed onto their phone too? I wish more projects would just get "on board" with another. I was having a conversation about Mozilla Firefox and market uptake. Why would Apple release Safari for windows? If a windows user in going to go and dl a new browser to replace IE its going to be firefox. But yet apple had to push their own thing. Harrison Metzger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What is the FCC ID of the neo1973?
Can I get block diagrams and user manuals for any phone? If anything with an FCC ID has all its info published it would make reverse engineering easy. I wonder what the regulations are on it? Harrison Metzger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
700 Mhz Spectrum Auction
Yes I am disappointed as well. I hope everyone will voice their disappointment to the FCC. I just wrote letters to my sen/rep and the FCC (it felt great lol). I wonder how much the general public is interested in such an important issue because some of the people i've talked to "just don't get it." I have friends who don't even understand open-source, they told me why if a computer can run the "code" you "must" be able to dissemble and decompile it (hes a type of person who thinks all mathematical/logical operations are reversible too). I told him try to look at a gcc -O3 binary with stripped symbols. But when I tried to explain why you can go back he didn't want to hear it. Anyway I wish there was a way I could tell people they are wrong without alienating them Harrison Metzger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G sim cards
I agree. The neo should work with the largest US provider. I would be more than happy to mail my sim card to TW or to someplace where someone who knows more about the technology than me can look at it (as long as I can get it back lol). It would be nice to see the raw communication (if any) between the sim and the phone. IMO this is a very important issue and I hope the core neo engineers or openmoko developers will get time to look into it. (its filed on bugzilla as number 666) Harry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G sim cards
On the IRC channel sunkist has confirmed this problem too. nibbler_de said that the sim card that at&t makes is definitely a Oberthur CS SIMphonIC 3G and that it is comparable with 2G phones still. but how come many people who tried this card all reported that it didn't work? I'm wondering if a hardware guy could look into this ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G sim cards
I'm not actually sure what number you need. On the (what I would call front side) side with NO contacts there is the iccid number which is long. On the back (side with contacts) their are 2 numbers: 71324 and 4021 (please don't clone my phone, lol). So we don't play email tag I'm on IRC (name calamous_), could you mind hopping on or messaging me if you are already. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G sim cards
Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it does 2g, I would like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. According to the GSM modem it gives error CME 10 (sim card not inserted). any ideas? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G sim cards
Is there any way to make a 3G sim card work in the device (even if it does 2.5g)? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Sim Card Reader?
Mark, Thanks for the reply but it dosent work. Clicking that icon also crashes the bar. I have tried 3 different sim cards that all work in 3 other phones but on neo keeps tilling me that my sim card is not inserted (CME ERROR 10). Harry On 7/26/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Harrison Metzger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dear community, > > > > I received my neo today and have been playing around with it a bunch. I > can > > get any of the "phone" part of the phone to work. I have been playing > around > > with the GSM AT command set and issuing commands to the modem manually > and > > from the gsm tool. However I could not register it on the network. I > looked > > further into it and I when i do: AT+CNUM it returns CME ERROR 10, and I > > looked at what that meant in the the GSM proto manual and it means SIM > card > > not inserted. The sim card is inserted. Its an AT&T prepaid simcard. I > have > > tried it in other phones and it works, ive also tried other working sim > > cards (from ATT) in the neo and its a no go. I know the SIMs work, so I > > figure it is the neo. There was talk on IRC about 3.3v sims vs 5v, but I > > have no idea what to do with that. I'm stuck. I *dont* think I have a > > defective device, but I can't think of what else it would be. > > I just bought a T-Mobile (US) pay-as-you-go SIM (for hacking with > until I decide to switch the old 6630 over.) Like the (ancient > *OMNIPOINT*) SIM in the other phone, it didn't work the first time. > Then I tapped the antenna icon with the stylus, got 3 choices - "power > on gsm antenna", "auto register with network", "power off gsm > antenna". > > I picked "power on gsm antenna"... and the whole icon bar crashed :-) > > Then I hard powercycled it (hold down power button until the screen > blanks, no menu comes up because that part is crashed) and when it > came up, it was talking to the network... > > I know that sounds mystical, but if the pattern works for you, then > maybe there's something worth diagnosing... > > Note: I'm using the rootfs posted earlier from > > > http://chooseopen.com/openmoko/build/openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070726000624.rootfs.jffs2 > > I still haven't gotten sound out of it, but it does make and accept > calls. > ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Broken Sim Card Reader?
Dear community, I received my neo today and have been playing around with it a bunch. I can get any of the "phone" part of the phone to work. I have been playing around with the GSM AT command set and issuing commands to the modem manually and from the gsm tool. However I could not register it on the network. I looked further into it and I when i do: AT+CNUM it returns CME ERROR 10, and I looked at what that meant in the the GSM proto manual and it means SIM card not inserted. The sim card is inserted. Its an AT&T prepaid simcard. I have tried it in other phones and it works, ive also tried other working sim cards (from ATT) in the neo and its a no go. I know the SIMs work, so I figure it is the neo. There was talk on IRC about 3.3v sims vs 5v, but I have no idea what to do with that. I'm stuck. I *dont* think I have a defective device, but I can't think of what else it would be. Harry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
