Re: Wish list for future Freerunner
Perhaps they should not rely on one sensor. ;) Jae ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?
I vote for current GTA02 features plus 3G and USB2.0! Jae ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade
Weird. I suppose this same SIM works in other phones (non neos)? Do you have another ATT sim to try? Does the SIM keep track of what phones it is inserted into? And if so, perhaps it's memory is full? I have not read the GSM spec in great detail, but perhaps it is plausible :) Maybe you sim is worn out! heh :) We have not spent a great deal of time using the neos you upgraded for us. The last time we used the 3G sim cards they worked fine. There will be some heavier testing of them shortly. Perhaps I will start tomorrow given this new info! Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Multi-tap Keyboard Works!!!
Just kidding, but got your attention! Is there a plan to actually make it viable in the terminal? Someone please say, yes. Cheers, Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I dont know why I was surprised
captive stylus..anyone? :) the new N810 stylus looks like it might almost fit! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mono development in openmoko
We are developing for OpenMoko within mono. So far so good! We are currently command line (no gui yet). But it definitely is a nice environment to use. Startup time is a little slow, so AOT compilation would probably help out there. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moved page for those interested in second hand Neos
ian douglas wrote: Is there any recourse with OpenMoko that we can take about misrepresentation as a quad-band phone, and getting a refund? -id Perhaps, but if others in the rest of the world will give you something reasonable for it, why not just sell it. More people win that way, IMO. Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update: The 850 MHz issue
Man this royally sucks for me. We only get 100% coverage because of the 850 band where I live. 1900 is being added slowly, but not anywhere close to full coverage. Anybody want a neo? I sure wish this information would have been provided _before_ the purchase. Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko trademark issues...
OpenMoko.Inc needs to have a clear trademark policy on the name OpenMoko and associated logo, etc. Right now the maemo people are going through some stuff do to recent changes. This is something that Sean and co need to figure out. If it is already figgured out then it should be posted somewhere on the wiki...a quick search for trademark reveals nothing. Just an FYI to those that care. Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko trademark issues...
Great...but what is the policy for use among the community? That is the question here. Anyways, it is good to see that they filed with the USPTO. :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
A quick search on google showed this: http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/forum-to-mailing_list_integration/ I think whatever official openmoko supported communication technique is used needs to allow users the ability to choose how they access the information. There is no reason ml and forums cannot access the same backend so that users of the system can choose whether they want to communicate via ml or forum. My 2c Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Samsung S3C2443 and USB2.0
I spent a few minutes browsing the processor units on Samsung's site. I've been thinking about the whole data transfer issue with SH1 and SH2. Both are using USB1.1 as the interface to the host pc. This will be a painfully slow way to transfer large amounts of data (ie music). It will be difficult (not impossible) to remove the microSD card from the neo1973. It would be nice to see OpenMoko.Inc move to a processor that has USB2.0 as quickly as possible in their development cycle. What are the chances? Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mozilla based browser for maemo...
I thought this interesting...not sure what the status of the browser for openmoko is: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/ According to the information this is not based on Minimo, but the same components as Firefox. The download was 7 MB to my N800! Full AJAX support. Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Again: Advertising thoughts
Just one thing: the general public doesn't even know the word Linux. I don't really agree with the stance that Linux is a bad word here and I don't think that it is bad to associate with Linux. Microsoft has been pushing Windows Mobile for years to try to leverage their so-called easy to use OS as compared with Palm. Not that Linux is the all powerful word to use to get people on board either. But to say that openmoko is built on Linux (or GNU/Linux for the truly hardcore) is generally a positive thing because Linux is the embodiment of open and free in the current computing world. The thing that must be stressed is that the phone is open, not closed, both in speech and in beer. One more thing. I'd agree that people watching TV commercials may not know what Linux is (except for those IBM ads a few years ago). But youtube ads...come on, most have at least heard about that non-Microsoft thing! Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Again: Advertising thoughts
That's funny because I have been on the receiving end of much idiocy in my calls tech support. If you are working in a help desk you are going to be called by folks needing help. Some of which will be idiots. But how many consumers did not call the help desk? It is like a doctor saying most people are sick! My point is that they need to be educated. Advertising is indeed education. I see new products all the time via the advertising medium. Advertising is the first shot at educating them. As an aside: What is the target audience for the Neo1973? Probably someone who wants to use their phone for more that dialing. If that is true, they are going to be a little more tech savvy than the average consumer. What is the biggest advantage of openmoko from the competitors? Is it the cool graphics and sweet multi-touch? No...not yet anyways. It is a philosophy. Yes, it needs to offer really great technical advantages. Yes, they need to be promoted. My original point is that the biggest advantage (the whole reason openmoko was conceived), is that it is FOSS. That there will be hundreds of applications that can be installed for whatever purpose. I believe this is why there is so much buzz surrounding the project right now. But I could be wrong :) As long as the consumer doesn't think it is running Windows Mobile, heh. Jae Note: I threw openmoko and Neo1973 terms around rather sloppily; reader can interchange as necessary :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: t-shirts in the US
I think it would be nice to add a T-Shirt design that had the large openmoko logo on the front and the free you phone on the back. There is one there similar but it is reversed. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Support for Left handers
On 7/14/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new here, I have an OpenMoko on order and hope to do some development. I'll contribute ideas and bug reports at the least. I'm not sure I've ever used a touch screen mobile device that caters for left handed people. On the whole there aren't many issues with using devices left handed, so adding the support is easy. The main problem is scrollbars, when they're on the right dragging the scrollbar left handed results in your hand covering the screen so you can't see what you are doing. So having the option of scrollbars on the left would be useful. Ideally if you implement such features in the interface and not per application then it will all be transparent and less work will need to be done. Comments? Giles. I agree with this. As a lefty on the N800, this can become quite a pain. One nice thing about the N800 interface is inside the webrowser you can scroll anywhere in the window like your moving a piece of paper. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Support for Left handers
On 7/14/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding left hand support shouldn't be too hard. We would just add a config option that is read by the ui library and then everyone that uses the standard ui library would automatically have a left handed application. So the main question is what all do you want moved(I am right handed)? The scroll bar is the obvious one, would you like the spinner thing and the button on the bottom switch as well. (seems like that would be the best way to keep the scroll seperate). Also what about the top and bottom status bars and such. I think someone should edit some of the screen shots to how they would like a lefty screen to look and post it somewhere in the wiki for discussion. I don't think the whole screen should be mirrored! There are some elements that should remain..like the main top bar with the status icons and such. Scrollbars are the main thing I can think of right now. I agree a wiki page should be added for left handed ui discussion. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support
I'm still getting a blank page after submitting step 1... On 7/8/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 07:49 +1200, Nick Johnson wrote: I just bought one. The only shipping option listed was SAVER at a wince-inducing $85.13 USD to ship to New Zealand. As for credit cards: Visa and American Express only. We just added MasterCard. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shop is open :)
I keep getting blank screen after step 1 of 3 :( On 7/8/07, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shipping cost/options are displayed AFTER you fill out the first form. -Jason On Sunday 08 July 2007 14:40:28 Thomas Gstädtner wrote: He Peter, please contact me concerning the group purchase :) What a pitty that there are no shipping costs in the shop :( 2007/7/8, Peter Trapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shop is open :) cheers -homyx ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Let's get some digging done!
link again: http://digg.com/linux_unix/NEO1973_Phone_running_open_source_OpenMoko_software_now_available On 7/8/07, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 July 2007 14:58:46 Ortwin Regel wrote: Somebody (=not me) submitted a Digg story: http://digg.com/linux_unix/NEO1973_Phone_running_open_source_OpenMoko_softw are_now_available Digg it now! Tell all your friends to digg it! Register at Digg if you have to! Let's get this out to people! Ortwin Dugg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Blank Page ... Was [Color choice, etc.]
It seems that the state/province must be the 2 digit code...with all CAPS at least in US and Canada On 7/8/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/8/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one of the ones getting a blank page response -- checking the headers, I got an OK (200), but a 0-length message, back... even I am getting a blank page after entering the address and quantity info. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shop is open :)
The state/province must be the 2-digit CAPS version in the US and Canada On 7/8/07, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several people on the IRC are reporting the same thing. Maybe Sean could suggest whether or not you should re-submit your order. Note: Immediately after my successful order, I received a confirmation email. -Jason On Sunday 08 July 2007 15:07:46 Anton Afanasyev wrote: Any idea why after filling out the form and clicking Submit Data, I am simply redirected to a blank page? Waiting doesn't seem to help. Could be the increased load on the servers? Thanks On 7/8/07, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shipping cost/options are displayed AFTER you fill out the first form. -Jason On Sunday 08 July 2007 14:40:28 Thomas Gstädtner wrote: He Peter, please contact me concerning the group purchase :) What a pitty that there are no shipping costs in the shop :( 2007/7/8, Peter Trapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shop is open :) cheers -homyx ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: t-shirts in the US
I second ThinkGeek.com On 7/8/07, Rich Goodwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ThinkGeek.com would be an excellent alternative - possibly a tad cheaper. Rich On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 17:28 -0700, Brad Pitcher wrote: direct dying sounds good to me. I vote for cafepress. How is this coming Daniel? On 7/3/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not familiar with spreadshirt's stuff, but I know that some of the shirts on cafepress are done with a direct dye process(dye goes directly into the fabric)... which means no big plasticy sticky thing on the shirt(I really hate that stuff). If spreadshirts can give the same thing, I don't really have a preference, but I'm all for cafepress otherwise (you will have to select the direct dye (don't remember their name, but it's obvious) option when you create the shirt itself)-- and check that the stock shirt you select has that option On 7/3/07, Daniel Willmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:46:23 -0700 Brad Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the status on the availability of openmoko t-shirts in the US? I checked on cafepress and spreadshirt.com and I couldn't find anything. I'd really like one of those shirts to wear at Ubuntu Live/OSCON. Thanks, Brad right, I said I'd open up a shop in the US, too. I'll create an account tomorrow and start copying the designs from my spreadshirt.net account. Is there any particular reason to take one or the other (cafepress/spreadshirt)? Regards, Daniel Willmann ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists. openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists. openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GPG/PGP Key Id: 1B257AEC from pgp.mit.edu Remember, all Windows machines are, by definition, fault tolerant. They run Windows don't they!! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Audio Jack 2.5 mm
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jae Stutzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:12:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm To: Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] My motorola E2 has a 3.5 mm jack. Same as the N800. On 4/29/07, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Judging from the high-resolution picture on the wiki it looks like the phone has a very special 2.5mm connector with 4 separate electrical connections (instead of the more common 3-connection version). If I'm interpreting this correctly they are running both ground, left-earphone, right-earphone and microphone in one plug. To me, this seems much more convenient than the 2x 3.5mm plug method used for computer headphones. hopefully it is a 4-conductor connector. unfortunately there are two ways manufacturers commonly wire up the 4-conductor 2.5mm connector. I have a set that is wired for the palm way of doing it that I plan to try. Nokia ships 4-conductor 3.5mm stereo headphones w/mic with their n800. The jack is backward-compatible with 3-conductor headphones. It's the first time I've seen a 3.5mm plug that could work with a microphone. It just might take a while to catch on. On the a2dp front, we got some help from Nokia on our codec and now it's running nicely in (mostly) 32-bit ops. It should be pretty easy for the cpu to encode stereo audio on the fly, but there is still a delay that we need to accommodate. Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS time synch
GPS is much more accurate for time information, but GSM is good enough for knowing the time! Most GSM phones do sync to the network. Hopefully there are some undocumented commands for the GSM module that are unknown at this time. NTP over GPRS is a solution looking for a problem IMHO. Here is another: Detect the frequencies of a bell tower using the built-in microphone, then count the hammer strikes... voila :) Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Email Push Service :) smtp+dnotify+Asterisk+... :)
I have been playing around with MGTalk which is a java midlet for google talk. It has some sort of push email notification that works with my gmail account. I have not looked any deeper but maybe using a modified jabber server one could create an open source push email server. Although it is nice to know when i get a new email (even when the app is idle). Jae ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
