Re: European Freerunner in USA?
Okay, as others have reported, the non-North American version of the FreeRunner will work in the US. In California and Nevada, there is extensive coverage by both ATT and T-Mobile on the 1900 band. Both offer prepaid SIM cards. If you do end up getting a prepaid SIM, there are two things to note: T-Mobile US does not sell any data plans to their prepaid customers (so you will not have ANY data with T-Mobile US on a prepaid SIM) ATT reportedly sells data at a $20/mo cost (unlimited usage). However, due to a very long reason, T-Mobile coverage would *in theory* be better, as ATT also relies on 850 towers (T-Mobile US only has 1900 towers) -- but in major places like San Francisco and Las Vegas, it is unlikely to be a problem. Also, you asked about HSPDA modems. A quick look into the modems shows they are UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS. The modems' UMTS/HSPDA will not work here on any carrier. The 2100 band, which everyone 3g outside of the US uses, is used for something else. ATT uses 850/1900 hybrid bands, and T-Mobile US uses 1700/2100 hybrid (which is not compatible with just 2100). Assuming the modems support 1900, then GPRS/EDGE will work with them. Please note that I am not a prepaid customer, so the prices and availability I've quoted for prepaid data may be incorrect. Jeffrey On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan DeLuca wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? T-Mobile and ATT have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. Both versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only difference being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the third band. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SF User's Group - Meetup?
I definitely have an interest as well, and am on your list from the booth. There is a wiki page listing those interested: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_San_Francisco I believe that page dates back to the 1973, but there are new additions and people still interested. Jeffrey Malone On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consulting Goat wrote: Hi - I'm new to OpenMoko (I don't even have a device yet) Personally I'm interested as an end-user; I know we're not there yet, but I'm fairly techie so I thought I'd jump in early. The company I work with is a supporter of OpenMoko and open source - and we have space to host user groups in San Francisco!Please respond on this list if you would be interested in a user's group meeting - maybe once every 1-2 months - here in SF? Fwiw - I was the person who was collecting names and addresses at the OpenMoko booth at LinuxExpo - so if you signed up there, you'll probably see another email from me. Do other local users groups set up a seperate email list for meetup announcements? Anyone got an extra mailman install to use for this purpose, so we don't have to resort to GoogleGroups? ;-) Take care, Greg +1 include me in the group (I'm in SF) I think we can and should host these lists. Let me check. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR GPRS speed
The modem is class 12: http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml In my tests, I sustained 40kbit down, 24kbit up. The theoretical max is 48kbit down with 12kbit up, or reversed with 12kbit down and 48kbit up. Basically, sub-56k speeds with a latency of ~700-900ms (round trip) with spikes to 1.3s on occasion. On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: la, 2008-08-09 kello 17:36 -0400, Jeff Davis kirjoitti: What's the highest internet speed the GRPS modem on the FR is capable of? Wikipedia gives a very broad range for sub-EDGE technology. It supports the max. plain gprs speed, theoretically 80kpbs. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A very sad story...
From what I can tell on the wiki, both the Neo 1973 and the Neo Freerunner use the same LCD. Finding someone willing to part with their Neo 1973 -- or finding someone with a dead 1973 (but good LCD) is probably not going to be a difficult task. Good luck On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's probably a few people here that have dead phones with other faults. Maybe one of them could sell you a dead phone cheap and you can swap the lcd panel with your phone. Ben John Koenig wrote: Hey all, Usually my first post to a community mailing list is some basic question that I could find if I just read 15 more mins on a wiki, but I am sad to say that this isn't the case for this posting. I have been an openmoko user for 4 days now, and a happy one at that. I was getting involved, learning, and bothering plenty of people on IRC with the types of questions I mentioned earlier. Today, I had my openmoko in my pocket (empty at that) as I was out for a walk and when I turned it on afterwards I discovered a crack in the LCD panel! I don't really know how to proceed from here. I contacted the reseller I purchased the phone from, Koolu, and haven't heard back from them yet. I need help in figuring out what to do next. If Koolu is unable/unwilling to help, how can I go about getting another LCD panel to replace the damaged one? Any thoughts/advice is appreciated. Thanks, John Koenig ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
External WiFi Antenna
I've seen no mention of this elsewhere, but forgive me if this is a topic that's been covered already. But after disassembling my Freerunner, I noticed that near the external GSM antenna connector is an identical connector -- on the wifi module (about 1cm above the GSM one). I don't have a pigtail to attach it to a 2.4ghz antenna here, but I'm quite curious -- is this functional, or NC? If it is functional, why no hole like there is for the GSM connector? -- There seems to be nothing but plastic, so one could easily drill a hole to get access to it when the back cover is removed. Image of it: http://ext.tehinterweb.com/freerunner/back.jpg Forgive the blurry pic, my camera isn't fantastic and the lighting combined with my unsteady hand only made it worse :P The two connectors are on the bottom right. The WiFI module is where there is the red arrow pointing right, and the green block is on the metal (the internal WiFI antenna, seemingly). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?
I just spent the last three days with two guys from Koolu at LinuxWorld (a post from me about this is coming). I can tell you the guys were definitely legit, and that if their customer service is anything like the two reps, it will be well above par. They are based in Canada, however, not the US (Toronto)... And as to what they may install... doesn't really matter. The phone is the phone, the software changes in about 7 minutes, so if it comes with something you don't want, it really doesn't matter. Jeffrey Malone On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:06 PM, xaos x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ordered mine from them. Got it in a couple of weeks. You'll need to sign for it when you get it so, unless you're home when it arrives, be prepared to visit your post office to pick it up. They ship it CA ExpressPost, which interfaces with USPS. AS for the phone, it was the same Freerunner with om2007.2 on it. -Tom - Original Message - From: Nick Van Fossen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 7:12:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu? I've been trying to purchase a new 850 Freerunner for almost 2 weeks now, but as you already know the openmoko online store still says they are to arrive on July 25th... The only two US distributors are Koolu, and gp2xstore.com. Gp2xstore.com only lists the Neo 1973 - not freerunner, and has been ignoring my e-mails for a week and a half, so I guess my only choice is Koolu. But, Koolu looks like they want to go a different direction with their phones than Openmoko does by installing Android, Google Apps, and some other goodies that I have no interest in. I've been hesitant to purchase from them because of this, but I'm wondering if anyone else has purchased an 850 Freerunner from Koolu and how that went? Did you get your phone? Have any problems with Koolu? Do you have any problems installing any of the openmoko builds/stacks? Thanks! -Nick _ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A brief summary from LinuxWorld
I was one of many volunteers that showed up to help out OpenMoko at their two booths at LinuxWorld here in San Francisco over the past three days. Speaking from my officially uninformed status, I would say that the entire event was a huge success. Both booths always seemed crowded -- attracting far more people than our neighbours. A lot of people were just learning about the phone, while many others were well aware of the effort, and had been anxiously watching its progression towards a device that could actually be used on a day to day basis. Despite the overall meagre display that the phones could manage, they made quite a good impression amongst the attendees. (Qtopia, 2007.2, ASU/2008.08 and FSO were all shown in parallel) To the confusion of the booth staff, we somehow ended up with two Neo Freerunners in Neo 1973 cases -- so those who see pictures from the show, don't be fooled by the case, they were Freerunners. The people interested in the phone seemed to cover all demographics one would expect to find at LinuxWorld (a few I didn't expect to find), and the far majority had a bit of enthusiasm once they realised just what a open phone can do. People from various news websites were often around, and there are even some articles already up: http://news.google.com/news?hl=enned=usnolr=1q=openmokobtnG=Search The PC Magazine one even shows my phone's IMEI (yay, hehe), and the GPS hardware fix -- which was done before I recieved the phone. I myself managed to meet quite a few interesting people, including fellow local users trying to form a San Francisco users' group: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_San_Francisco With any luck, there will be quite a few new faces around to further help with development, and bring the software platform up to par with the feature-rich hardware platform. It seemed to me that a lot of the right people had their interest piqued, so let's just hope they have $400 burning a whole in their pocket, and spare time to-boot. Jeffrey Malone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show and discuss at LinuxWorld
I'm writing a wifi connection program: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi My absolute deadline for getting this finished is LinuxWorld, but I fully expect it to be mostly done in a week or less (I only started writing it Sunday night and people are beta testing it already). Also, seeing as I'm one of the volunteers at LinuxWorld, I'll see you there! Jeffrey Malone On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing! So, will the baby be named in some way for Openmoko :-)? Thanks for the great story and the great smile, and best of luck! Michael Michele Renda wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I hope this story will not put you all to smile too much because I don't think it merit too much to be discussed at LinuxWorld :) I and my girlfriend decided to have a baby. Until now we used a online service that was telling us when is the best moment to get it. The only problem was that usually we don't have always internet with us, expecially when we need. So, I decided to write an application for Freerunner that can help us: I *never* wrote an application for Linux. I knew only Java / VB / PHP. I watched around and I read that FreeRunner will support Python and PyGtk: I decided to use it (gtk) becuase in my desktop I use gnome (Ubuntu 8.04 and Fedora 9), and python because seem to be enougth easy. I started to write it 3 days ago and now it is almost ready :) I think it was a good choose for these reasons: 1. I had the possibility to write it using a complete and fully documented language ( with google you can solve almost all the problems) 2. I can use my application also on my Desktop 3. I can use a high level - interpreted language that make programming easier (and a bit less clean :) I will receive my FreeRunner next week, but for now I am surprised how look on Gnome. I'd like to release it under GPL. For me was wonderful to know that in three days I had the possibility to make my custom application, without the need to use a particular language / toolkit, without need to pay a lot of money for producer SDK, and to be able to give it to a my friend without the need to upload it to a store! This for me mean freedom and this is the added value of Openmoko Freerunner. Michael Shiloh wrote: Michele, This sounds excellent. I should add for all of you to consider: interesting is not just the application, but perhaps the ease with which you were able to develop, the convenience of testing, perhaps simply the inspiration of an open phone. And the challenges and difficulties as well for that matter. These all make excellent topics for discussion when skeptics ask me what's so special about Openmoko. So tell me your stories! They are valuable content for my talks. Michael Michele Renda wrote: Hi Michael I am just finishing my first application for the Freerunner. It is python written and use gtk. Are these toolkits allowed to the campain? It is a very simple application, require no connectivity or big resource, but I never saw something like this in a phone. I will give more details in the list when it will be ready ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiHprYACgkQSIAU/I6SkT2UyQCfd/YP8pFQWTgECwXBrbt22fdt AowAoIgXknByaL2VDNEG/zMh4Ts0MOP2 =tyeo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in SanFrancisco?
I have an entirely free schedule, and free shuttles that take me from my apartment in SF to the Trans-bay Terminal, a mere 3 blocks from Moscone. I can commit to volunteering for any times needed, and I'm not a flake. Jeffrey Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The T shirts are planned, and I need to know how many debug boards and spares kits I need to pick up from Fremont to give away to volunteers. And pat needs firm commitments to build a schedule. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:52 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in SanFrancisco? Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two booths: One in the main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage. As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if some of you could commit to helping us. If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to answer the most common question: What is Openmoko?. As for more technical questions, don't worry - you already know a lot, and you can always defer questions to one of us. In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the form of T-shirts or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud owner of our undying gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all those difficult questions you've been saving up. It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know you, no matter how much or little time you can commit to helping. LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco. Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for badges. Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld, August 4-7, in San Francisco?
I can volunteer myself. I live just a bus ride away from Moscone and have a depressingly open schedule. Jeffrey Malone On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Shiloh escreveu: Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two booths: One in the main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage. As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if some of you could commit to helping us. Well, I'll be there too but I'll be working on the Canonical booth so I probably won't be able to give it a hand but for sure I'll try to come by for some time at least. []s Adilson. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)
I've actually been able to run the phone without a battery. I booted it, plugged in the wall charger, and removed the battery. It sat working for an indefinite period of time, while registered to the GSM network and with GPS and wifi on (I was testing to see if removing the battery could aid GPS). Using USB from a computer failed to provide enough charge. In fact, I noticed last night that while running 2007.2 with GSM and wifi on, the phone was not able to actually charge from USB. It was in a charging state, drawing power from the USB port. But it was insufficient to counter the actual power usage of the phone, and its battery level would very slowly drop (about 1% every half hour). Jeffrey On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:13 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I ran without a battery for many weeks earlier in the year. It seems to | be specifically if we enable the PMU charger with no battery, it freaks | out and goes to PMU STANDBY state. Earlier in the year, we didn't | enable charger yet so it hangs together. | | What's the advantage of enabling the charger? Well without it literally it won't charge the battery from USB power. It's fine to enable it except when it notices there is no battery there for some reason. | Well it can be a use case if you don't want GSM... as Joerg said USB | alone cannot provide enough power for GSM TX usage so there's no hope | for it (or any other GSM device) being an actual phone with no battery. | ~ But it's actually a pretty decent embedded / server / smart display | device aside from the phone aspect useful for other things if it can be | tethered to some always on power without battery, so I still hope that | can be gotten to work. | | Still not really a use case because nothing stops you from having a | battery inserted, even while external power is attached. True enough. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh/udsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpJfQCeJHe71Nxx+Yac0St4/eKdjIrt B7oAn1B5et11PmQ/nAfjbPuA3zLcnT5g =2Z8Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ears and FR
I think you're way over thinking this matter to seriously consider the accelerometers as an option. Sure, it sounds great... but add in practicality. So when the phone is vertical, it locks the screen and dims it? What if I'm in a call, and bend over to pick up something off the floor? Or if my movements are such that I don't keep it quite vertical? And something that learns my habits? Would that not just be a very difficult thing to implement, and an extremely annoying thing to teach it? Simple solutions are the best and most reliable. A slider is the best choice, as it is reliable, intuitive and relatively simple. Jeffrey On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Hans L wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:31 PM, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That should be fairly doable if I understand the accelerometer stuff correctly. During a call the phone should be unlocked when its horizontal or vertical. Any other angle probably means your holding it against your ear... I don't think it will be that simple. If I pick up my cellphone and hold it in a natural position in front of me(as if i were about to press a button to hang up), it is neither completely vertical nor horizontal. Making assumptions about orientation of a phone when held against someone's ear, versus how they hold it in their hands might not work well in all cases. You can always have a calibration routine - hold in front and press button, hold to ear for 5 seconds then back to in front. Besides you can always add an override. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to find the board revision?
In my experience, the revision that cpuinfo reports is not as expected: Hardware: GTA02 Revision: 0350 I've gta02v5, but I would be afraid to simply guess that 0350 means v5. Querying the modem gives me what I would expect: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY rv # # Get revision revision: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko8 Jeffrey On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Restivo wrote: I'm thinking about flashing the Uboot to get working APM capability. The instructions on the Flashing_openmoko WIKI page say that it is very important to only flash the uboot image that matches the hardware revision of the phone (obviously), but it doesn't say *how* to find out what board revision you have. I'd be glad to add that to the page with the instructions on how to flash, if someone could tell me where to find the revision. I remember stumbling across it somewhere (probably in /proc), but I've since forgotten. cat /proc/cpuinfo -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Went outside, got TTFF in 48s surrounded by buildings and trees. Definitely confirmed that removing the sd card fixes the gps. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome. At least we now know what's causing the problem. Is there a chance that changing the orientation of the internal antenna slightly (perhaps through very minor modifications to the inside of the plastic case) could rectify the issue? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors
I'm curious how well these work. Does the cover have any real downsides? Eg: Difficult to apply/align Reduces touchscreen sensitivity ... or otherwise impairs the phone's use or operation. Thanks for any advice you can give Jeffrey Malone On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Stephen Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, just enter pcworld20 as a promotional code for 20% off. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Joseph Jon Booker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:23:37 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone almost in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from invisibleshield and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just contact me, come first , get first :p Same with my discount codes (same discount was given to pc world readers). -- Joseph Booker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!
The phone is a tri-band phone using the 1900 and 1800 bands. The third band is either 900 or 850. T-Mobile doesn't use either 900 or 850 in the US -- however, other US GSM providers do use 850. In certain locations, T-Mobile allows roaming onto these 850 networks, so it can increase your coverage. Refer to T-Mobile's signal checker on their website, which will identify 850 roaming zones with a different colour. 850 is also advantageous in so much that even if you cannot roam onto it, you can still use it to make 911 calls during an emergency. The 850 band will however reduce your international roaming capabilities, but 1800 is still generally available in most western countries. So yes, either the 900 or 850 will work fine on T-Mobile US, but the 850 is preferred for those in the US. Jeffrey Malone On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Brad Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry wrote: Dear All, Sorry for delay long time!!! So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and spare also!!! http://www.openmoko.com/store.html Freerunner is running Thanks and BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I really want to get one so badly but I'm afraid of getting the wrong GSM frequency. I live in Oregon, USA and use T-Mobile. Can anyone advise? I looked at the website suggested in the store and it says T-Mobile uses GSM 1900. Does that mean I can't use any FreeRunner? Thanks, Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
