QTExtended freezes on GPRS
Hi everyone, I've started a thread about this problem a few weeks back, but I think I explained it wrong. Whenever QT Extended logs in to GPRS the frontend freezes. And I really do mean only the frontend. I can still SSH into the device and whatnot, the screen will just stay completely static, it won't take any input anymore. Does someone know what the cause could be? Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QT Extended GPRS
Good morning everyone, I've flashed the latest QT Extended image, once with mwester's kernel, once with the kernel supplied in the package. To get GPRS working I tried these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/dysvkn (Which made me download a set of packages from mwester's site) For some reason, though, whenever the phone would initiate gprs it would completely freeze... Has anyone else encountered the same problem? Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] [Zhone] Not checking incoming SMS
Hi everyone, I reinstalled Debian today, but I'm still having the same bug I had last time: Zhone doesn't really care for SMS messages. I only receive SMS messages very sporadically, sometimes it even takes a day for one too arrive. Sending an SMS message to myself isn't a problem, though. It gets sent immediately and I receive it right away, too. Is there a way to force an sms check in some way? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR applications on Debian
Joachim Breitner schreef: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 02.12.2008, 15:01 +0100 schrieb Jelle De Loecker: No package 'libmokojournal2' found No package 'libmokoui2' found No package 'alsa' found Where can I get libmokojournal2 libmokoui2 ? Since they're also part of the 2007.2 branch, shouldn't they be in the repository, too? 2007.2 hasn’t been packaged for Debian yet, so you’ll need to compile these libraries yourself as well. Not sure what package will provide the alsa dependency. Greetings, Joachim After installing the libasound packages (regular and -dev) it went away. I also had to do some searching, but eventually I found libmokojournal2 and was able to compile them myself. Unfortunately, I was trying to compile the GTK version of some library, which apparantly isn't finished yet (It won't compile, under development) I switched to the enlightenment version, but now it complains about ETK and Elemental, but I have NO idea where I need to get these. I can't find any packages in the repo, on any source repository, ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Joachim Breitner schreef: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 13:03 +0100 schrieb Carlo Minucci: i have released a new version of TwitterMoko (a client for twitter) are there any DebianOnFreeRunner users that would use TwitterMoko? I could package it, but as I’m not using twitter myself I would need someone to test the package and be responsive to user requests. Greetings, Joachim I'm currently using Twitux on my debian install, I don't mind trying out TwitterMoko Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR applications on Debian
Jelle De Loecker schreef: Op maandag 01-12-2008 om 21:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Joachim Breitner: Hi, Am Montag, den 01.12.2008, 21:24 +0100 schrieb Jelle De Loecker: I'm not requesting any packages of the SHR applications for debian, I want to make them myself. (The applications, not the packages) So, is there another way, or are the build instructions correct? the Debian way of building something is always “on” the machine (so either the FreeRunner, or an armel qemu image which might be faster). There, you can just build the SHR apps using the regular $ ./configure make make install step. Greetings, Joachim Great! When I finally discover why the phone completely freezes when downloading a bunch of files I'll give it a go! I'm getting somewhere, I'm just missing these packages: No package 'libmokojournal2' found No package 'libmokoui2' found No package 'alsa' found Where can I get libmokojournal2 libmokoui2 ? Since they're also part of the 2007.2 branch, shouldn't they be in the repository, too? Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/e17] Noise on receipt of SMS
Op dinsdag 02-12-2008 om 17:49 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Yorick Moko: have you tried closing and re-starting zhone? On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Running debian and e17... occasionally I get a strange (but nice) noise from my phone, and I've just managed to correlate this with someone sending me an SMS. But I don't see any message appearing in the Zhone UI - where should I be looking? If I reboot into Qtopia, the new message appears. Thanks, Neil I've also had some problems with receiving and sending SMS messages through Zhone on Debian. I can try to send a message but most of them never arrive. Zhone won't give me any errors, either. (Some messages I send get saved in my inbox with a (sent) prefix, which is good, but most of them just vanish without a trace.) I even had some problems with deleting messages and even adding contacts. I'm not complaining here, I know what I was getting myself into, I'm just sharing my experience with it. (I'm trying to install the shr applications on debian) Oh, and I like the incoming sms sound, too. Very nice to hear. Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and xfce?
Op dinsdag 02-12-2008 om 19:06 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef arne anka: /etc/init.d/zhone-session doesn't exist. zhone-session is dead. what is used instead is nodm, which is installed by default (even at your fr according to the ls). my link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#XFCE i think joachim posted a howto a while ago, search the archives for nodm. it basically comes down to starting xfce from ~/.xsession. Right, I'm using nodm and it works fine. I've also added my own user, so I'm not running as root all the time. I did that following this bit (Skip the second instruction.) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user Then I only changed the username in /etc/init.d/nodm file (from root to skerit) Then I created the /home/skerit/.xsession file: xfce4-session zhone openmoko-panel-plugin And last but not least, I had to add this to the /etc/hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost debian-gta02 I'm not using the matchbox window manager, btw. I had more problems with it then with xfce4's wm. Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR applications on Debian
Hi everyone, I'm not requesting any packages of the SHR applications for debian, I want to make them myself. (The applications, not the packages) I thought I'd just follow the build instructions on SHR's trac, but I'm not sure if that's the way to go. It talks more about building an image on a desktop instead of applications on a freerunner. So, is there another way, or are the build instructions correct? Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR applications on Debian
Op maandag 01-12-2008 om 21:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Joachim Breitner: Hi, Am Montag, den 01.12.2008, 21:24 +0100 schrieb Jelle De Loecker: I'm not requesting any packages of the SHR applications for debian, I want to make them myself. (The applications, not the packages) So, is there another way, or are the build instructions correct? the Debian way of building something is always “on” the machine (so either the FreeRunner, or an armel qemu image which might be faster). There, you can just build the SHR apps using the regular $ ./configure make make install step. I have started to package SHR for Debian, but it misses some enlightenmen libraries that will be packaged by the pkg-e team eventually, but just hasn’t been done yet. Greetings, Joachim Great! When I finally discover why the phone completely freezes when downloading a bunch of files I'll give it a go! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Choosing a distro right now
Hi everyone, I've been happily running QTextended 4.1.0 for a while now, it's quite stable and fast, but I'd like to try a distro using X11 again. How are the others doing, right now? I'm not looking for a milestone release, a snapshot is good, too. I read the SHR doesn't use a PIM at the time, just reads SMSes straight from the sim card. Are the snapshots of 2008.11 any good? How's battery life? etc ... Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
Sascha Peilicke schreef: On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:08:11 Jelle De Loecker wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schreef: Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds I might be tempted to port it to QtExtended but I currently have neither a phone nor much time. basically it should work just fine, if QtExtended is binary compatible to Qtopia-4.3.1. Maybe I'll find the time to fix it up in the next weeks ... Ah, I thought someone already said it didn't work. I'll be happy to give it a try tonight. I've never really compiled anything for my freerunner yet. Is this just a small program I need to compile, or is there more to it? Met vriendelijke groeten, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schreef: Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: https://code.launchpad.net/~sasch-pe/+junk/qtopia-ds Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds I wish I could help out here, this is so important for this type of phone! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg JW schreef: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to buy now!] 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 *** Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. *** For myself my vote is 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now ciao JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Dale Maggee schreef: Jelle De Loecker wrote: I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg The reason I want a physical keyboard is because I much prefer a keyboard with tactile feedback - you can feel the button, and you can feel it click down when you press it. Tactile feedback makes typing both faster and more accurate. These are things which a soft keyboard can never hope to provide. That's very true, and I did take it into consideration. (It also made me think of some technology which WOULD supply tactile feedback through touchscreens, something I read about a while ago and found again here: http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533 ) Anyway, I understand why you would prefer a keyboard, but I do not believe it can be made big enough for the GTA03 while not hindering the aesthetics of the device. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Paul schreef: it's really very easy fast to use. Too bad you're experiencing all that crap! Maybe try an older image like 4.3.2 ? (Just an idea, I own the freerunner for almost a full week now...) /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ En vriendelijke groeten terug... Paul I'm afraid I found the cause of all my problems... I, perhaps naïvely, thought that the sqlite database from Om2008.x was the same as the one in QTextended. Although it did work, I believe it caused all my breakage. On another CLEAN flash I didn't experience any of my previous problems. I really like the way QTextended looks and feels. All the programs integrate nicely, fast, snappy response, ... That's what's still lacking on the Om2008.x releases. Programs are pulled from various places, everything looks messy, ... But they'll get there ;) Does anyone know of a way to synchronise data from QTextended with my desktop? Groeten uit Vlaanderen :P Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia / qtextended: crashing icons
They might have the most complete distro of them all, a few wrong presses can break the entire installation like it's nothing. I am the latest qtextended. Below the main screen you have a few icons, the phone, the menu, favourites, and something I don't remember. When I press the phone, qtopia crashes and will never boot again. Does anyone know what I did and what file I need to fix to get it going again? (I had to reflash qtextended 3 times already... It also crashed when I enabled the wheel thing.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
What vesion did you use? I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. Then I plugged in my USB cable and I saw it boot. Although, qtopia didn't want to start again. When I remove the cable and shut the phone off again (even though it never really boot up) it won't start by pressing the button again. I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Paul schreef: I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner won't boot without USB cable after QTextended crash
Hi everyone, I installed QTextended yesterday. I loved how snappy it was and how good it worked overall. But some things went wrong. Pressing some buttons crashed qpe. When I came home today I discovered my phone was completely off. I tried to start it up again, but it didn't work. The only way I got any life out of it was by attaching the usb cable and trying again. And that's the way it still is. If I want to boot up my phone, I have to attach it to the usb cable or it won't do ANYTHING. I have already flashed u-boot, I have installed the 4.3.2 version of qtopia, reflashed uImage aswell, still won't work. -- /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duped Messages (was Re: Please split this list!)
Can something be done about it? I'm getting every message at least 2 times, mostly 3 times. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Joel Newkirk schreef: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Since we're talking about the mailing lists, I still receive (randomly), three repeated mails, two repeated mails, etc... This mail from Vasco... I received it three times already! :) Rui On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 12:24:03PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you examine the email headers you can see that the 'received' header documenting where the mail server handling the list (sita.openmoko.org running exim 4.63) received the message from the sender's mailserver (IE, their ISP's mailserver) differs from one copy to the next - this means that either the sending server is failing to recognize that the message has been delivered and resends, possibly the receiving server is failing to send the acknowledgement of receipt at the end of the SMTP transaction (at least in a timely fashion), so the sending server automatically retries. Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7yh-0002Ow-Ha for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:37 +0200 Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7fK-0005dL-Pf for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:37 +0200 Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7ZO-0003bU-8Q for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:21 +0200 Notice that the message ID differs between the three copies. This tells us that this is the point (when sapo.pt mailserver delivers to sita.openmoko.org mailserver) where the failure occurs. If it were the mailinglist server sending dupes, this header would be identical among all copies. Also, it doesn't depend on sending mailserver software, I've noted it happening with qmail as sender, exim, gmail.com, and others. (even mail.openmoko.org sometimes, such as Andy Green's reply to the '3G modem' thread) Based on past experience as admin of a cluster of mailservers that sometimes exceeded 1 million incoming SMTP connections per day, I suspect that either spam filtering or some testing for ML (IE, 'is this sender permitted to post?') takes place AFTER receiving the message but BEFORE telling the sending server that message was received, and is periodically taking longer than the sending server's SMTP timeout, so the sender gives up on the connection and tries again - meanwhile the exim server handling the ML eventually accepts the message. My suspicion is that the load on the (virtual?) server hosting the ML is getting to a level where processing messages sometimes takes longer than some sending servers are willing to wait. Properly, in such a situation, the sending server is supposed to resend, and the receiving server is supposed to discard the message it failed to fully receive before the connection was broken. Unfortunately my mailserver experience is with surgemail, qmail, sendmail, and some exchange (ick), but I've never worked with Exim, so I can't suggest anything specific to check in the server config. (When I've seen this caused by receiving mailserver it was most often qmail, and was caused by improperly configured/limited spawning that exceeded available RAM instead of deferring excess inbound connections - once dipping into swap, all bets are off regarding timely responses) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU keyboards
It sure is something to go stark crazy about! I do love the ammount of activity on this mailing lists. Anyway, I have succesfully disabled the qpe keyboard, but I'm stuck with yet another keyboard. This one actually LOOKS like a keyboard. It uses images for its buttons, and it's in white. Can anyone tell me where it came from? (I believe it's the terminal.kbd file in the 2008.08.08 image) I didn't have any full-qwerty.kbd file. So, like angus, I'm looking for a way to install Raster's illume keyboard. Maybe someone can share the kbd file? /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Minh Ha Duong schreef: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I am going crazy trying to follow the keyboard debate and summarize it on the wiki. Discussions are going on in the community list, the support list, the trac mirrored on the devel list and I did not check IRC. Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update
Well, look at those filenames: 20080826-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/20080826-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2 It's a filename which actually makes sense! Anyhow, I installed the 20080808 image a few days ago and upgraded with Zecke's repository and my phone is running really smooth, I'm afraid to make any changes to it. I don't even dare to do an opkg upgrade! :) Nishit Dave schreef: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Alex Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olivier Berger wrote: Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, there's an updated image of 2008.8 from yesterday, I still haven't flashed it - does someone know if it's worth it, what's new inside ? You mean : http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ as http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/ doesn't seem to have changed, if trusting the timestamps ? Dunno... maybe you can diff the contents of the roofs tarballs and tell us ? ;) It's been long since the release, without any official updates... so maybe time has come... maybe it's the announced 2008.9 ? I'll try it out in the next 12 hours or so and report back... (2008.8 was a complete write off for me... hopefully I don't lose the better part of the day again...) Can't any release maintainers comment on this? Has there been any announcement on other lists? I have taken lots of pains to make my FR even nominally usable as a phone on OM2008.8. I too don't want to reinvent the wheel...oh, and would there be individual updated packages available instead of just the images? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS and Locations maps
Sorry for crashing this discussion, but could you clarify why there would be a difference between a png saved by tangogps and locations? If they both use the exact same areas, the exact same name, and they both save it as a png then it *should* be compatible. Anything else seems way too crazy, no? arne anka schreef: I don't think so : did you compare the files? i gather the naming derives from the gps location data, thus the file names for the same areas should be the same regardless of the format being different. similar names are not sufficient, as said above -- compare the files (identify -verbose 5638.png) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU keyboards, again
Jus tot egt things straight: how many keyboards are there? We have the qpe one, we have this terminal one (with the bevels and such) but wasn't there another one, a full keyboard with no fancy graphics? /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg David Samblas schreef: I have followed th Raster indications to install spanish dictionary and it works :) Note to Ubuntu/Debian users, the compatible dictionaries are installed on /usr/share/dict/ if you dont find your lenguage there do #apt-cache search wordlist|grep ^w|sort to show avaiable lenguages change wspanish for your lenguage #apt-get install wspanish and then # scp /usr/share/dict/spanish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/spanish.dic Avoid the shorting part because this dictionaries are already shorted and depending on the locales you will only messit El mar, 26-08-2008 a las 22:40 +1000, Carsten Haitzler escribió: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:35:53 +0200 julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I've installed raster's image, mainly to get its great keyboard, and I love being able to switch modes/adding my own (french keyboard). great! see below about adding a french dictionary :) However I have some isssues. 1 : sometimes, an application calls a keyboard and I get stuck with the old keyboard. Is there a way to prevent that from opening so that no matter what I always get raster's one ? this is a matter of qpe still making its keyboard and qpe and illume clashing. it manages to make sure no big mess happens, but it means it's a luck of the draw (first in, first served) as to which keyboard gets displayed. :( can't turn qpe's keyboard off currently. 2 : I don't understand how predicive those two keyboards are. For me predictive would mean suggesting the n+1 (or n+p) character when I have pressed n keys. At the moment the only thing it does is suggesting several combination of n keys, to correct some typos I would have made. It's very annoying since the word I correctly typed isn't necessarily displayed among those suggestions. Is that how a predictive is supposed to work or am I missing something here ? with illume's keyboard (my one) in the latest illume's you get a dictionary. it should be possible to create a french dictionary - take /usr/share/dict/words from your desktop (i assume you have a french one) and: sort -f words French.dic scp French.dic 192.168.0.202:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/ (assuming your FR is plugged in). then it will use french words to predict - if you select the French dictionary. :) but as such it will display the most likely matches in the dictionary based on how far the typo is from the word (the closest wins). it doesn't try and predict at all - only fix so you have to type all the letters - it just makes up for typos and a fat finger on a small screen. press top-left dictionary icon to select dictionaries when no word is being composed (select this to list ALL matches - EXACTLY what you typed will be the first thing in the list always - if you select it it gets added to your personal dictionary so it can match and fix your typos later). Btw Is there a way to scroll through the suggestions of the predictive keyboard ? illume's one? left dict icon above the keys of the keyboard - vertical list of them. just drag it up and down - select the one you want. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!
Stroller schreef: On 24 Aug 2008, at 20:00, Fredrik Wendt wrote: ... I tried to argue with this dude at http://www.vimeo.com/1366042 but pretty soon found out that it was all in vain ... Fuck! There are some retards in that thread. Stroller. That's the video Neowin featured on their frontpage after the release of the freerunner, isn't it? If you want to read more of those retarded comments you should visit it. I, however, stopped bothering. They're just trolls, what else can you say? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
