Re: Re: Public build host (proposal)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jay Vaughan wrote: > > I don't > have any objections to having a c compiler 'on board' with me >> all the time... > > > Me either! In fact I find it a very easy way to get started with > OpenMoko development without having all the drudgery of setting up a > cross-toolchain and all the other cruft associated with it. > >> IIRC I can 'dpkg install gcc' on the FreeRunner, and also 'dpkg >> install openmokoui-2.0-dev'? > > > > s/dpkg/opkg/, sure. > > Here's what I did to set up my Freerunner to compile the bling project > onboard: > > opkg install binutils binutils-dev libc6-dev libcairo-dev > linux-libc-headers-dev gcc cpp cpp-symlinks g++ g++-symlinks > gcc-symlinks libstdc++-dev libmokoui2-dev librsvg-2-gtk-dev > librsvg-2-dev make make-dev > > bling: > > http://w1xer.de/bling.html > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > > > > > > This is a vast relief. With the demise of my laptop I'll be depending on my freerunner for compiling stuff. Also: the openmoko toolchain: why is it only distributed as binary!? I have the source code for GCC, Binutils, etc, but their configure scripts don't seem to like --target=ARM-Linux-guneabi - tips anyone? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIiQtXjK3MZIZPmKIRAvw/AKCyorWYopbxEy3TQ87gaSUjLViu9gCfQ4Z9 dU253nBKIy+e/WzWSl0MZZU= =zmMF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erland Lewin wrote: > > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P > > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml > > > the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different model depending on what hand you plan to use to type on it: I'm pretty sure I could design something similar that doesn't have that limitation. I haven't seen any openmoko software running for quite a while - my computer isn't really fast enough for qemu - but I think it would be a good idea to have the on-screen keyboard always accessible (put the icon back in the notification area or something like that) but have the auto-pop-up disabled when a physical keyboard is connected (more room to see what you're writing). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIdBjbjK3MZIZPmKIRAukGAKDX3qGaA/81WRQOXAsLR80ZR4t5PgCgihWm 2MD4VAOB0HfYaq7ygVgcqtw= =Xg+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Bastian > Muck ha scritto: >> Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I >> don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. >> But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over >> to you. So when it's "finished" I will install Netbeans, too. > > Completely agree...! :) > Eclipse is alright if you can't type very fast, or if you have a very fast computer, but cutting it down enough to be remotely usable on a freerunner is probably more effort than it would be worth. When I was using it I found I had to disable so much just so it would operate at the speed I write code that I would have been better off just coding with nano. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIIjkBjK3MZIZPmKIRAkWlAJ9IZ/HM3GEL3/p35WyghGQ1eYr+XQCeN2kc XAnt5vrsVjJmQXwCovSPEF4= =ydPg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: .Mac like service
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: > On 4/30/08, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> my list starts with: >>> *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages (in >>> case i need to re-install everything) >>> *backing up e-mails/text messages >>> *storing gps coords in case the phone's stolen/lost >>> *backup/storage of any other arbitrary files >> You would want it to be a commercial service like .mac, with a >> subscription fee and guaranteed reliable service, and use GPRS to >> access it? Or you would want to just do that stuff with your own PC? > > I think some of the community members could set up a server for this. > Of course there must be some encrytion so the private data is secured. I don't think we really need community members to set up a server. There are several existing ftp servers where you can get a free account and store files privately and publicly. The only software you'd need to write would be the openmoko client - which I presume you'd want to show some intelligence regarding what it uploads, what it encrypts before uploading, etc. Whoever took this on would need to make sure the remote backup had a consistent (extensible) structure and format. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIF+m4jK3MZIZPmKIRArZVAKCJpUIoE5EO0upHVYO3kIyC24FCvgCdH9Ee oOVbneuMf287SFOli5RbDYo= =VxZs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NZ Group order
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Robin Paulson robin.paulson at gmail.com > Sat Apr 26 08:28:14 CEST 2008 > 2008/4/26 David Murrell : >> do any of you know about the situation on frequencies in nz? i hear telecom >> and vodafone use different bands, 850 and 900 respectively. is this correct? >> >> >> This is something I've been wondering about as well. It would be >> particularly nice if I could choose a different provider by switching >> simcards. I realise this isn't removetly possible with the current cdma >> phones that telecom has, but the 'next generation cell network' thing sounds >> like it might be compatable? > > yeah, they're finally ditching cdma in a few months, for gsm. > technically we could switch sims to go from one network to the other, > but i think we'd need the original proposed quad-band neo to do that. > need some reliable evidence on which freqs the two companies use > The exact figure for "a few months", according to Telecom, is "Four years" In the meantime they're setting up a "hybrid system" which is not GSM but broadband CDMA using the GSM audio codec for voice calls. I'm not sure if any phones actually exist that support this standard. Orcon will shortly be opening their GSM network in New Zealand. If Vodafone isn't your cup of tea don't worry: they won't have gsm-monopoly here for very long. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIFVyBjK3MZIZPmKIRAsxkAJ4ymaWXfyG04oBhnXETYxYz4nJalgCfTj26 ngXODCEpozri3k9PrLg3HPc= =AS3V -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: group sales nz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Paulson wrote: > there's been a few people here mention new zealand - if anyone is > interested in a group buy, there are 2 of us already: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#New_Zealand > > we're both jafas, but even if we had to post on to someone elsewhere > in the country, it'd be worth doing > > thanks > > I've added myself to your list. Posting on to Wellington will be necessary for my one :) Needless to say I'll pay postage. Thank you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDrxojK3MZIZPmKIRAgQvAJ9IL5T/saMpH2xhm7hmsKXehxZLfACfVMkr PcUn2Iv4JJhbh/60Js0TkQ0= =jcfZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner AC adaptor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Tue, April 22, 2008 5:19 am, Jeremy List wrote: >> I would be very surprised if there was any law in New Zealand against >> importing things with foreign power plugs as a few years ago I bought a >> palm treo which required an adaptor. >> >> Adaptors for devices which have the wrong shape of plug but don't mind >> 240V AC @ 50Hz are much cheaper and more efficient than ones which >> actually convert the electricity to whatever voltage is standard in the >> U.S. When I finally get a freerunner, would I fry the charger and/or the >> phone by using that kind of power supply? > > I doubt this will be a problem. If you look at the photograph of the > charger and it's adapters. You can see that the charger has flat prongs > for American sockets, and that two adapters are supplied. On the top right > is an adapter with two round pins suitable for most parts of western > Europe. On the bottom right is one with three rectangular prongs for the > UK and some former British colonies such as India. > > These days most wall wart adapters are switch mode power supplies and can > handle a large range of voltages, so I would be quite surprised if the > Freerunner one can't, though obviously I will check the rating printed on > it before I plug it into the mains for the first time. > > http://quickstart.openmoko.org/photographs/usbChargerAdapters1.jpg > > -- > David Pottage > > Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. Sadly none of those adaptors will actually fit into the wall in NZ. Fortunately if the voltage is compatible I can get an adaptor from my nearest supermarket. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Type_I_.28Australian.2FNew_Zealand_.26_Chinese.2FArgentine_2.2F3-pin.29 Our wall sockets look like this one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDmRGjK3MZIZPmKIRAkIrAKDYrZ38y5aCPUnoBS0psO4IWwxOHQCeMTUt QCqpwy90dzS35+YiQlZ7+mw= =6d6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Do we REALLY need a phone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The problem with small handheld devices is that most of the time it's > cheaper to put everything into the device than to create variants. > Modularity causes problems with design and space and is also > expensive. > I also still need a GSM modem and will for a few years. Sure, I'd like > to use WLAN, Bluetooth and UMTS whenever possible but these networks > don't cover the whole country / most of the planet. When there is no > other network, I need GSM to get onto the internet, even if it's slow. > > Ortwin Exactly: There are only two places where there's a WLAN I can actually access and I can easily just use a computer in both those places. Without GSM/GPRS, for me the neo would become a very expensive alarm clock and little else. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDXEKjK3MZIZPmKIRAmGzAJ9A0Inza6BRGv1ysB5aOA6DKltPXACg3E+P JYQgUtlzrYx6fC+JDxTwUkE= =MYZ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/4/22 Ben Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Will it ship with powerpack adaptors for all countries? >> I just noticed there's no adaptor for Australia/New Zealand in the pic. >> Not that it would be a problem, most of us have an adaptor lying around >> somewhere. > > i'm not sure of the exact situation, and this may vary in some > countries, but don't some places have laws that an item sold there (or > shipped to there?) must include a correct plug? > > I would be very surprised if there was any law in New Zealand against importing things with foreign power plugs as a few years ago I bought a palm treo which required an adaptor. Adaptors for devices which have the wrong shape of plug but don't mind 240V AC @ 50Hz are much cheaper and more efficient than ones which actually convert the electricity to whatever voltage is standard in the U.S. When I finally get a freerunner, would I fry the charger and/or the phone by using that kind of power supply? Jeremy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIDWdujK3MZIZPmKIRAmSeAJ9QY63xFNeMRZkFDw2dDWYQ4ocxmgCgwhiz L1oeq9tnTaFNvAOKO7qZGFs= =qdxK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
