Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
Dear Openmoko Community, I want to create some personal maps for viewing on the freerunner GPS application (like tangogps). All available maps (open streetmap and google maps etc.) does not meet my demands, so I want to create one myself. The map I need shows the depth of a lake. (In Germany it's called a Tiefenkarte - depth map) An example can be found here: http://www.mueritz-fisch.de/downloads/Tiefenkarten/Müritz.pdf or http://www.mueritz-fisch.de/downloads/Tiefenkarten/Feisnecksee.pdf After looking at the map cache of tangogps, I assume that I need to create a picture of the map and then split this pictures into smaller ones (.png) and put them into numbered directories in connection with the GPS coordinates. I need to do this for different zoom levels. I'm very happy about _every_ hint how I can get this done most easily. I guess that doing all that manual it would need a very long time. Thank you very much. Kev ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'm a contributor of OstreetM already (it's really easy with tangogps), but I've never heared of OseaM, thanks for pointing this out to me. The problem is, that I've bought this commercial analog maps for personal use. I've scanned them in and merged it into a big .png file. So there are some copyright issues preventing me from contributing the data to OSM. If I have the possibility to connect my sonar to my openmoko and log the depth with the gps coordinates I would contribute the collected data to OSM. But at the moment I need the map for navigating on the water. With the map on the openmoko this would be a lot more easier and it would be really great to mark points with the openmoko. So I need an easy way to achieve two things: a.) calibrate my picture to the gps coordinates. Maybe with an OSM overlay (50% transparency). b.) split the calibrated file into fitting parts for tangogps and put them into the right directory. especially for point b.) I need to know more about the directory structure of tangogps (tiles cache). I'm still searching for this. Point a) can be done manually with a compiz transparent window over google maps and then looking which coordinate the left upper and the right lower corner have. But I also would be happy about new/other approaches :). Kev 2010/8/5 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: Le 05/08/2010 11:44, David Garabana Barro a écrit : Why not contributing to OSM? That's the sense of a free map... He may want to control the render of the map. I think contributing to OSM then developping your own rendering tool is not that easy. But yes you could add your data to OSM, it's never a bad thing to do ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
I can help you with the splitting part. A few weeks ago I wrote a script to render OSM data to svg, convert it to png and split the files into directories. It renders a specific subset of OSM data, but it can be used to split PNG images. You would probably be interested in the most basic version which contains only files I made or moified [1], but if you want to see the whole thing running, check out the version with external tools in it [2]. There's a small readme in it, but I'll be happy to help if it's not enough. Cheers, rhn [1] http://porcupinefactory.org/data/tilerender.tar.gz [2] http://porcupinefactory.org/data/osma+tile-render.tar.gz That's really great! I'm really overwhelmed that this exist already, so I will have a look into this now :). Thank you! How can I achieve the gps calibration of my file with your script? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
Well, you can't :) I read your other post. To make it all work, you need to: a) rectify your image - there are services like http://labs.metacarta.com/rectifier/ , but be careful, they publish your maps by default. They are open source, but difficult to set up. This will calibrate the scanned map with OSM overlay. b) find the coordinates of the edges - should not be very hard c) modify my set of scripts to accept the rectified image and edges' coordinates - I'll have to take a look at it if you need help here d) run the script Ok I make progress. What I meant with gps calibration is Image Rectification[1] as you described but I didn't know about this before :). Shouldn't be the geo and coordinate information inside the GeoTiff Image after rectification? So step b) may be skipped? Your script require an osm file or zoom-12, so I just need a way to convert a geotiff file to osm, right? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_rectification#Geographic_information_system [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoTIFF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org
Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished? Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now? Thanks for answers. Kev [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU
Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 14:14 +0200 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen: Hello, On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To update to testing simple create a new file /etc/opkg/updates.conf and put into it http://pastebin.com/f1cffba0b . OK, I just added updates.conf to /etc/opkg. I did not remove any other files in there. Is this the right way to do it? Yes, that's the right way because opkg uses always the newest version of a package if there are more than one available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?
Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 16:13 +0200 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An update: my order arrived yesterday. It looks like it is the original shipment from 7/7/8 and it arrived on 11/8/8 (European date ordering). This is on the 7-11 business-day shipping, so only 20 or so overdue. I'm sure the delay was not Zagg's fault, but they'd be doing themselves a favour if they gave more conservative estimates on their website. On July 8th, I've received confirmation that 2 shipments were on their way. The first I got in about a week, the second hasn't arrived yet. The first contained 3 shields, the second contained the FR shield. Since you mentioned that it arrived yesterday, I'm getting my hopes up to get it one of these days... Christ van Willegen I got my order Confirmation on 5th Aug and the Shipping Confirmation on 7th Aug. It arrived today on 12t Aug here in germany, so very fast. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with usb cable: device descriptor read/64, error -110
hm ok, With today's opkg update opkg upgrade the usb networking is now working again :). Am Dienstag, den 05.08.2008, 11:47 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Hi Andy, thanks for your quick answer! Ok, that's the reason for the problem but it doesn't fix it completely. After flashing uboot (flashing works quite well so no problem with the cable) there was no more error message but also no success message. If I connect now my Freerunner to the usb port (when the Freerunner is powered up) there isn't any kind of message in dmesg on the host and there is also no new networking interface (usb0). So usb networking is still not working. Do I have to wait for an fix? Kev Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 19:28 +0100 schrieb Andy Green: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So it should be the cable (hardware defect?) oder the neo update (using | 2007.2 with latest updates). | Did I miss something, any other ideas? Has someone this problems, too? | | It also seems, that the neo isn't charging anymore when it is connected | to the cable. The usb power supply is still working fine and can charge | the neo. | | Thanks a lot for your answer! This sounds exactly like the fault of the bad U-Boot we put out for a while. Boot into your NOR U-Boot by holding AUX while powering up, then dfu over today's U-Boot image. After that this should be no longer a problem. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiXSj8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoTJwCePIo4iXi3RvQABYo4Hu4R23FN AHsAn0ZEqZKAT8uFabtUk8KeYqk4bUfF =OC8N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with usb cable: device descriptor read/64, error -110
Hi Andy, thanks for your quick answer! Ok, that's the reason for the problem but it doesn't fix it completely. After flashing uboot (flashing works quite well so no problem with the cable) there was no more error message but also no success message. If I connect now my Freerunner to the usb port (when the Freerunner is powered up) there isn't any kind of message in dmesg on the host and there is also no new networking interface (usb0). So usb networking is still not working. Do I have to wait for an fix? Kev Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 19:28 +0100 schrieb Andy Green: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So it should be the cable (hardware defect?) oder the neo update (using | 2007.2 with latest updates). | Did I miss something, any other ideas? Has someone this problems, too? | | It also seems, that the neo isn't charging anymore when it is connected | to the cable. The usb power supply is still working fine and can charge | the neo. | | Thanks a lot for your answer! This sounds exactly like the fault of the bad U-Boot we put out for a while. Boot into your NOR U-Boot by holding AUX while powering up, then dfu over today's U-Boot image. After that this should be no longer a problem. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiXSj8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoTJwCePIo4iXi3RvQABYo4Hu4R23FN AHsAn0ZEqZKAT8uFabtUk8KeYqk4bUfF =OC8N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
Hi, I did some tests yesterday and here are my experiences with Freerunner's GPS: First I put the Freerunner on a window sill in a penthouse, no high-rise around. I got a fix after ~20 minutes. Disappointing. Later on I walked along in a big city between a lot of high-rises. After 15 minutes, the neo found the first satellite, but nothing more, no fix, only a gps-time. After 30 minutes I activated the power management (first dim, than lock) so the neo could be sleeping again, I gave up. Very Disappointing. A few hours later I sat down on a canvas chair at a bank of a more than 510 meters wide river in the same city, the last high rises are more than 100 meters behind me. I woke up my neo, unlocked it, started tango gps, looked at it. Nothing. I looked to the left and to the right, looked again at my neo. Stop. looked again at my neo and couldn't believe my eyes. There are 5 satellites in the display, the gps chip is using 3 of them. I GOT A FIX in less than 20 seconds! Very amazing! After one more minute, the neo was using 8 of 11 satellites. That was a really great experience. After the neo got the fix, I nearly could do everything I want, it won't loose it. I walked back in the city, worn the neo inside the pouch in my trouser pocket, around me all this big high rises. It was still tracking me and drawing this very interesting red line in my tango gps map. I couldn't believe it. I went to the home of a friend, gone up the staircase and took the neo out of my pocket in the apartment. I couldn't believe my eyes again. Tango gps was still drawing the red line, even in the staircase. It looked like: ___ | _| | |_ | Unfortunately I missed the chance to take a screenshot, but it was really amazing. My conclusion is that the chipset can't be so bad :) But the question is: Why is it so hard to get a fix, when there is something around? Is there any space for software improvements? Maybe different search algorithm or is it all in the hardware or driver-side? (All without an external gps antenna) Kevin Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 09:40 +0200 schrieb Kai Römer: Hi Al, Sounds really convincing, but how do you explain the constantly fast fix via external antenna then. I really think its an antenna issue. Also the difference of the GPGSV values support this idea. Tomorrow evening i will ask a specialist to check the antenna signal qualities. Maybe a cable is broken or there is a short circuit on the main board. I ll report about the results. CU Kai 2008/7/6 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From what I've seen on the wiki the version of the Antares4 on the GTA02 doesn't have the memory needed to store almanac and ephemeris, last known position or time. This means that every start is a true cold start, unlike every other reasonably modern GPS we're comparing it to. It starts up thinking the time is midnight on 30th November 1999 and seems to need a fair bit of decent signal to convince it otherwise, contributing to the long startup time. It looks like there is a way around this if you look at the documentation for the assist. The AID-INI message needn't be supplied by a remote server; we can generate it locally to provide the sort of data that's stored internally most of the time. At the very least we have a fair idea of the current time and date. We should also be able to store location, almanac and ephemeris when we shut down the GPS, and provide it at the next startup. We can also have a stab at current location, based perhaps on cell ID or wifi data as discussed by some of the other threads, or on user input. I'll try to patch together something to do this based on the example perl client and server code, and see how much difference it makes. On Friday 04 July 2008, Kai Römer wrote: I can affirm this for 6 opemoko devices. i guess its an internal antenna issue. as soon as you connect a external antenna to it works like a charm. but fur me thats no solution. TTFF with external antenna (perfect condition): 40 to 60 seconds TTFF with internal antenna AGPS (perfect condition): more than 1:20 minute but not always. its like gambling. I guess a miss design of the internal antenna. CU Kai 2008/6/23 Peter Kraker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This timings are insane unless you don't even have a valid almanac, which is rare. This doesn't look right. Yorick Matthys pravi: Marcus Bauer said: My experience with the Freerunner is ~12 minutes TTFF (time to first fix) without use of agps and ~4-8 minutes TTFF with agps from agps.u-blox.com using the software from openmoko. The Neo1973 (GTA01) had a TTFF without agps assistance of ~2 min. 12 minutes without AGPS and 4-8min with AGPS?? I hope there was a thunderstorm inside the basement where you tested this... :) Seriously, these just don't seem realistic. Compare them for example with some other devices from 2003:
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 11:56 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards Hi, thanks for your tests, you rose a big hope in me, but unfortunately it didn't work for me: --- AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN= STR=`AT+CPIN=' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32' EVENT: Signal Quality: 21 --- so, same again :(. With disabled PIN: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' cme error: 100 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 100' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' cme error: 15 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 15' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' - After that, I enabled PIN again and test it, but same as at the beginning. Anything other to test? Kevin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:25 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger: thanks for testing that, even if it didnt help. after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. regards But, regarding to shwan lin's report, you can see that the sim isn't working correct because of the wrong voltage with the command AT +CFUN=1 with an responding ERROR. If there's an OK respond, it will work. As in my last mails reported, there is an OK as a response of AT +CFUN. So in my judgement the voltage isn't the problem. Or did I understood something totally wrong? Maybe this sorts of sim cards have more differences than only the voltage? Is there a way to find out the voltage with a multimeter or something else? On my card isn't printed something, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. I got this error 3 on a very old D2 (Vodafone) SIM card when using the command line access. But PIN entry and registration through the GUI works. So, this one must be a different error. That was only a syntax error. Try it again with AT+CPIN=MyPIN. Don't forget the and . Then it should work with your D2 SIM card using the command line, because I tried it with an 9 year old D2 SIM card yesterday. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
So, what should I do now? Change my provider? Buy a prepaid sim card?... Really, that can't be a solution. BTW.: I tested a sim card from a friend and it worked. It was an 9 YEAR old simcard (G2)! His provider is vodafone, but the sim card is so old, that there is an D2 Mannesmann logo on it (an provider, that doesn't exist anymore). But no o2 card seems to work (in the meantime, I have test a 3rd o2 card in my phone from another person, all three are g3). On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:27:11 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Kurylo wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. Good theory - Ian, didn't we have this problem with your SIM card at SCALE? I've used prepaid SIM cards with good results - I always test in the store before I leave, for this very reason. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi, now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Here is the AT command stuff: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MyPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MyPIN' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32' EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 - On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:29:31 Arne Zachlod wrote: AT+CPIN= Try with quotes, AT+CPIN= and according to GSM 07.07 CME ERROR. The general error 3 is operation not allowed. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Thanks for your reply, but the AT command was on the old (card was from decembre 07 - not so old), 100% working card (working on other phone). I haven't test it in the new one in the command line, because it's not activated already, but it must take the sim and then say not activated or so... (regarding to the men in the o2 shop) On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:57 -0700, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop
My Freerunner is just arrived, it was a very big surprise because I had no your freerunner is on the way message - it just was here - suddenly :) :) Thanks a lot pulster! BTW. My 8 GB SD card seems to work: /dev/mmcblk0p17.6G 32.0k 7.6G 0% /media/card :) But it won't take my pin of my German O2 (3g) sim-card.. Kev ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. Kev Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 21:29 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod: Holger Freyther schrieb: On Wednesday 02 July 2008 23:48:59 Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? In general minicom is your friend. Reenable the PIN on your simcard. execute AT to see if the modem responds to you (kill other users if not), reset using sysfs files if needed. Once you get OK on an AT request do: AT+CFUN=1 AT+CPIN? it should ask for SIM PIN.. AT+CPIN=YOURPIN AT+CPIN? it should say it is ready.. AT+CREG=1 AT+COPS=0 you should see +CREG coming by. alternatively if you have qpe installed. You can go to /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf change all Enabled = 0 to Enabled = 1. Kill the qpe process, take a look at /etc/X11/XSession.d/89qtopia, copy the two exports to your console, run qpe and take a look at the chat qpe has with the modem. please share your results and if you don't know what I'm talking about ask. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope I have understood you correctly and did what u meant. this is the console output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN= STR=`AT+CPIN=' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' so, i don't know what this error means, but the PIN was right. i hope anyone can imagine something with this, because i can't ;) bye, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
I totally agree with you, Marco! But I would like to add two important things: -The Pouch is more important than needed for me, it's essential. It will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a no-name pouch, because I like that one with the word openmoko on it, because it is simply great! I also like this neoprene-outfit. -The MicroSD is less than optional, because here in germany (don't know about other countries) you get an xxSD card really everywhere for just a few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that size I want to buy (depends on the money I would like to spend on it). Two notices for optional gadgets: -Lanyard: I don't think one with openmoko on it is a standard part, and I like it :) (I also think it's a really cheap but great part) -Headset: Every ones ears are other ears: small, big... and because of the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong. Kevin Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): steve ha scritto: Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision. We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your feedback I do think that the needed goodies to have a market-ready device are: - AC Charger (better if custom) - Headset (with mic?) - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will be there most of the time!) - Stylus Optional: - MicroSD - USB Cable - Lanyard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko project future - Dreamliner vs. 737
Hi, You really should host your pictures on your own server and not include it out of a forum. (e.g. picture http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=5358 is used in http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Letux%20380 ) So users have to register in that forum to see the picture in your shop... not really useful :) Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2008, 08:16 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: To all those who are frustrated. First of all, please note the recent message from Steve that the Freerunner is already in production rampup (PVT), i.e. the hardware engineering phase is finished. Usually this means just weeks and no longer months until sales can start. But taking your picture of liftoff, and knowing about all those eagerly waiting members on this list who have expected something different, I have worked on a solution for those who have different needs than the Freerunner will fulfill. The best result so far is sort of a 737 Open Linux PDA-Smartphone (when compared to the Neo Dreamliner). While the alternate device lacks WiFi, GPS, USB-Host and the latest kernels, it comes with * Quadband (800/850/1800/1900) * a 1.3Mpix camera * a builtin telescpoe pen * weights just 90g * is mature (i.e. end-user ready incl. power management) and * runs Qtopia (not the latest one) out of the box. I am in discussion with the manufacturer about the SDK and the limitations of openness. But what I have already tried with the sample devices is that it is really possible to install and run Sharp Zaurus binaries and cross-compile some code. Since I don't know if discussing alternatives to the Openmoko fits into the rules of this list, please send me a private mail (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) if you are interested, or follow the links in the signature. With kind regards, Nikolaus Schaller http://www.handheld-linux.com http://groups.google.de/group/org-letux-discuss PS: we plan to add both, the Freerunner and this alternate device to our shop so you have more choice Am 07.04.2008 um 23:58 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: OpenMoko is a brilliant concept. I hope to buy a Freerunner when it's relatively safe to go in the water. Before we jump down the throats of those who express some frustration about how the release schedule has taken longer than we all hoped, here's my non-emotional comment in support of those who are frustrated. I do no know why, but the OpenMoko project (Hardware and software) objectively is dragging out. From the sidelines, it is difficult to judge whether this VIRTUOUS project will or will not achieve liftoff, or will crash off the end of the runway. yes, absolutely, developing in a fully open environment means everybody knows each and every wart along the way. Apple and Steve Jobs did not have that burden, nor do Nokia, or LG, Samsung, Motorola. BUT the OpenMoko project likely does not have enough financial capital and human resource to accomplish its lofty ambitions. I passionately hope I am TOTALLY WRONG. But the track record to date is dodgy at best. -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com http://twitter.com/rjeffries ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunnter - get it over trisoft
What I'm missing at the trisoft site is the headset, mentioned at [1]-Headset. Won't the Freerunner-Package include this nice looking headset? Kevin [1] http://openmoko.com/products-neo-base-00-stdkit.html Am Donnerstag, den 20.03.2008, 11:47 +0100 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi community, here same interesting links http://www.golem.de/0803/58520.html and trisoft http://trisoft.de/ http://trisoft.de/openmoko.htm torsten ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for assistance: Need a wiki page for buying and selling GTA01
Hi, I agree with you, that you need some sort of pushing to get noticed a possible buyer about your offer because if I were a buyer, I won't check every day the wiki for new things.. I also think posting the link to the mailing list is not a very good solution, because I could imagine that most of the ML-user don't want to buy a 01 and that a lot of people who want to buy one, won't subscribe to the list. My suggest for a solution is taking the best of both: to do something like a newsletter form (maybe on the wiki) where you can fill in your mail adress. If there is someone who want to sell his phone on ebay, he can mail the link to the people subscribed to this second-hand neo-newsletter. Maybe you can also put a link on the subscribing site in the shop-section of openmoko.com. Kev Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 15:42 -0800 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Yes, that too. I agree that this would be a completely appropriate item to post to the community list. I'm suggesting the wiki page in addition, and I think having your eBay listing listed on the wiki suggests that you are a member of the community, and not some random outsider (although hard to imagine any of them having a Neo :-) Ortwin Regel wrote: Wiki pages are nice but they are not really a good way to push info to people as you would like to do if you have just put your phone on ebay for sale. If I decided to sell my phone, I'd probably send a message to the community mailing list. Is this wanted or would anyone be annoyed by it? I'm not really sure but it would probably be the most effective way to find a buyer for your phone. Ortwin On 2/19/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for your feedback. As a number of you pointed out, there is no security in a contact you've made via a random web page, while eBay has a whole system in place to provide exactly the needed security. I think it makes perfect sense to use eBay. However, I propose we use our wiki page to point at such eBay listings, in case anyone has difficulty finding them on eBay. So, I propose we re-purpose our wiki page to indicate eBay listings, perhaps sorted simply into BUYING and SELLING. Sound like a plan? I thank you all for your input. Michael Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi Community, I need your help. Having completely sold out of GTA01, we are still getting a large number of requests for them. On the other hand, many of you intend to purchase a GTA02 and perhaps feel you have no use for your GTA01. Some of you might have other reasons to sell your GTA01. I'd like a wiki page to allow these buyers and sellers to find each other. We have a wiki page for GTA01 owners who lived in 850 MHz-only areas to sell their units; perhaps this page can be repurposed for this broader issue. Perhaps we call this the OpenMoko flea market. Anyone? Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki - confusion
Hi Wolfgang and Michael, thank you for clarify that, but it raises a new question for me: Does that mean that there is written Neo FreeRunner in GTA02 at the place where Neo 1973 is written in GTA01? (e.g. in [1]) Thanks, Kevin [1] http://openmoko.com/uploaded_images/black_big.png Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2008, 01:31 +0800 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: JW, Michael - we had an internal discussion about this and I think everybody is on the same page now: GTA01 = Neo 1973 GTA02 = Neo FreeRunner Brand: Neo Model: 1973 Version: gta01 'gta' for all gta-series class devices Hope this helps, going forward we will try to get better at keeping internal (engineering) names and marketing names separate, because they travel at different speeds :-) Wolfgang On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: JW wrote: so did we get any official pronouncement from the Openmoko team yet? Are Wolfgang Spraul and me right (gta1=neo gta2=freerunner) Or is Piotr right (neo1973 = class of phones covering phase 0 and phase 1 incl gta01 and gta02 and only public release or phase2 = freerunner) Hope i represented Pioter view properly (check further up thread) Would be good to know from one of Openmoko team members (michael?) so wiki can reflect correct picture I haven't had a chance to triple-check, but I'm 99% sure it's this: GTA01 = Neo 1973 GTA02 = Neo FreeRunner Thus both are members of the Neo family. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko wallpaper
Hi Michael, yes you are right, but that are not only the o. Every Letter has it own direction because of the perspective, so it's correct in that way. Just have a look on your mobile phone (or any other thing) on your desk, put it right to you, you will see the left side of the thing. Now put it more to the left (but don't turn it!) and you will see the right side of it. Same thing with the letters, that makes the 3D Effekt in a 2D Picture/Monitor. You can find that at every letter. btw. I think it looks really nice, the color is nice and fits (don't know to say in english) well to the orange of openmoko, the openmoko theme, my yellow/orange room and my ubuntu desktop :). Kev Am Dienstag, den 08.01.2008, 13:41 -0800 schrieb Michael Heinrich: Do my eyes deceive me or do each of the centers of the o point in different directions? The image does look better though. Michael On Jan 8, 2008 12:13 PM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have uploaded the xcf file with the original layers in it and a second png version with a more solid logo. http://tanuva.de/files/mokocars_at_night_v2.png http://tanuva.de/files/mokocars_at_night.xcf.gz The more-solidness was acquired by simply putting 2 or three of the logo/text layers above each other - so it can be customized fairly simple. Marcel Am Dienstag 08 Januar 2008 20:22:20 schrieb Michael Heinrich: No problems here.. I think it looks great. I might make the logo and openmoko appear a little more solid though. :) Michael On Jan 8, 2008 11:01 AM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Marcel, Not Found The requested URL /files/mokocars_at_night.png was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 Server at www.tanuva.de Port 80 * Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-01-08 19:41]: From: Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Openmoko wallpaper Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:41:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 Hello, I've been playing around with my camera at late night and once took an (in my opinion) quite nice shot. Now, browsing the moko wiki, I thought the om logo could look really good together with one of them. Here's the result, waiting for comments: http://www.tanuva.de/files/mokocars_at_night.png Left at a high resolution to be able to cut it down to different aspect ratios. What do you think about this? Marcel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Tim Niemeyer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHg8iaGbn/Eak8UZYRAvYdAJ0SLgcqxvibtfDqhcZ0TX6wzUJ5QACgpyGy yiCLDVS50m07LA2y80T74oE= =fUjC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
Mark schrieb: As someone who has been waiting on pins and needles for months for this phone, I too am wondering why there has not been an announcement of some kind, since up to now they've been saying October and we're 3/4 of the way through the month. If it's going to be January or later, that's fine (and that's probably still optimistic, considering what I've been reading on the lists), but they really should keep us posted. It's extremely inconsiderate to keep everybody in suspense like this. - Wolfmane Yes, I think the same. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Shipping-(Cost-)Information (esp. to germany)
Dear community, because that is my first posting here, I would like to introduce myself. I'm Kevin (you can also say Kev as nick), a german student in a grammar school for information technology. I prefer to use open source software and so I am very interesing in the openmoko project. I first heard about it in the chaosradio (http://chaosradio.ccc.de) and since that I like openmoko with its philosophy. I'm thinking about buying the developer preview and investing some time, maybe I could help the project a little bit making openmoko great. First I visited openmoko.com and noticed that I couldn't find any information about shipping. I think it would be awesome to provide these informations. I can't imagine whether it costs 50$ or 5$, if it needs 5 days or 5 weeks for shipping. There is no need for an exact price, but I would like to know approximate informations. Thank you for the answer, Kev ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping-(Cost-)Information (esp. to germany)
KeKeSeB schrieb: Kevin Zuber a écrit : Dear community, because that is my first posting here, I would like to introduce myself. I'm Kevin (you can also say Kev as nick), a german student in a grammar school for information technology. I prefer to use open source software and so I am very interesing in the openmoko project. I first heard about it in the chaosradio (http://chaosradio.ccc.de) and since that I like openmoko with its philosophy. I'm thinking about buying the developer preview and investing some time, maybe I could help the project a little bit making openmoko great. First I visited openmoko.com and noticed that I couldn't find any information about shipping. I think it would be awesome to provide these informations. I can't imagine whether it costs 50$ or 5$, if it needs 5 days or 5 weeks for shipping. There is no need for an exact price, but I would like to know approximate informations. Thank you for the answer, Kev Hi Kev, I think, you have to make a fake order in order to view all the shipping details Sébastien ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Steven ** schrieb: Welcome. You'll find a lot of information on the Wiki. It doesn't have actually prices, but http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ#How_much_does_it_cost_to_ship_to_.3F http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ#How_much_does_it_cost_to_ship_to_.3F has your answer. -Steven Hi Sébastien and Steven, thank you for your fast answer and useful hint. I tried it and got the following prices: Worldwide_expedited 50,51 USD Saver 52,87 USD Worldwide_express 54,47 USD Worldwide_express_Plus 86,39 USD Links for explanations about the shipping-options are in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Shipping_Notes:phase1_Poland (if somesone is searching for it, too) Kev ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
