Fwd: [ ~102731 ] voice driver

2008-06-19 Thread Matt Flax
HI there,

Just letting you all know that it seems the idea of using a pci express
voice modem with the openmoko software will be limited by the manufacturers.
They appear to not be interested in supporting communities of users but
rather individual business clients ...

I quote them : openmoko.org can contact us directly if they wish to
work with us.

Matt

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From: Matt Flax flatmax
Date: Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ ~102731 ] voice driver
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OK - so in short you have no interest in supporting Linux voice ...

no problem, I find that attitude rather limiting and lazy ... as you
know Linux is pretty uniform ... you could also provide a complete
kernel driver for open source developers ... whether it uses the ALSA
audio drivers or a custom IOCTL mechanism ... doesn't really matter
and doesn't really require you to interact with each manufacturer ...

thanks
Matt

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 05:53:00PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Matt,
 Please find my answers below.
 Thanks.


 1) If I purchase one of these devices, do I acquire the necessary
 documentation for me to code the voice driver alone ??? Surely you
 would like me to use the full capacity of the voice modem !

 ---We do not work with end users on minicard integration, only with laptop
manufacturers.  Every laptop model/brand require a specific integration
solution, so there is no generic solution or firmware or drivers.
 There is no Linux driver with voice support and there is no ETA on it.

 Anyway, you can contact one of our distributors below and try to purchase
a modem. The support will be provided by them.
 http://www.sierrawireless.com/partnersresellers/partners.aspx

 2) openmoko.org is both a hardware and a software ... they are both also
 open source ... I bet that doesn't fit with your current model of
 'manufacturers' ...
 openmoko.org can contact us directly if they wish to work with us.

 3) If you don't fit this new model ... you will run into problems ...
 look at the ASUS EEE PC ... it runs Linux ... It has a spare PCI
 express slot ...

 --- I've checked the spec on ASUS EEE PC and i dont see a spare PCI-mini
Express
 slot which you need to insert a minicard.
  look at the KB article below. We have developed and tested the driver for
ASUS EEE PC ( USB cards) .  The ASUS can contact us directly if they want to
discuss more options.

 http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=1231
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openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
Hello,

I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice
modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the
laptop ?

An example pci express card is the MC8775v :
http://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/product/MC8775V%20Datasheet%20rev%201.0.pdf

Is anyone using this or another similar device to make calls from their
laptop ?

thanks
Matt
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Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
I see,

What I am really trying to do is to have as close to an all in one
convergence as possible.
So take a small EEEPC like laptop, put the voice modem into it and there you
have it ... phone, music player, video player, upgradeable memory, a mini
computer with full QWERTY keys and so on ...

Is it perhaps simpler to connect an openmoko device to a mini laptop ? Is it
possible to route openmoko device audio through a laptop?

thanks
Matt

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Matt Flax wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice
  modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the
  laptop ?
 
  An example pci express card is the MC8775v :
 
 http://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/product/MC8775V%20Datasheet%20rev%2
 01.0.pdf
 
  Is anyone using this or another similar device to make calls from their
  laptop ?
 
  thanks
  Matt

 It ought to be possible, though probably not out of the box. It seems like
 an
 odd thing to do, but I'm sure you have a reason.

 You could run asterisk on the laptop and use it to route calls between the
 modem in the laptop and a SIP or IAX client running on the openmoko with a
 USB or WiFi network connection. This ought to be fairly easy to set up,
 assuming the card exposes its audio interfaces.

 One or more of the network capable audio daemons could probably make the
 openmoko appear as an audio interface on the laptop, so probably usable
 with
 the modem.

 You could try to get the openmoko to behave as a Bluetooth headset or
 handsfree kit, but I'm not certain there's any software available to
 implement this yet. This also assumes that the laptop can connect the card
 to
 the bluetooth audio device.


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Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
I have begun enquiries with one of the manufacturers  they mention they
already have Linux drivers, but didn't seem to know what I/O routines they
already provide 

I assume that if it needs hacking, then it would simply need control and
voice hacking ... control hacks to start stop and do other functions to dial
 voice hacking to copy PCM buffers to/from openmoko and the device ...
is that correct ?

It is possible that this device also has GPS ... perhaps that also needs
addressing during the hacking ?

Matt

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 ti, 2008-06-17 kello 18:53 +0100, Al Johnson kirjoitti:
  On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Matt Flax wrote:
   I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice
   modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the
   laptop ?
 
  It ought to be possible, though probably not out of the box. It seems
 like an
  odd thing to do, but I'm sure you have a reason.
 [...pondering how you could make calls from a Neo through a laptop]

 I figured he meant running the OM software on the lappie to operate the
 voice modem as a phone.

 Which should be doable with some hacking to accommodate possible
 differences between the pci express card and the chip arrangement of a
 Neo. Majorly, would the card present itself as an audio interface or
 transfer PCM on the serial interface?

 As currently the OM dialer is Qtopia, the question becomes if it has
 support for the required I/O strategy or would one have to hack it (I
 don't know).

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