Re: Rolling dices on OpenMoko
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:11:22 +0200 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, a new application will be soon available for SHR (as soon as I understood how to build a package) : alea All of my applications including this one: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/mkrpn/ ...build their own packages. It needs a simple script ipkg-build.sh which should be commonly available. You should be able to copy my code to do what you want. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install Toolchain?
On Thu, 27 May 2010 20:16:36 +0530 Tanmay Mathur tanmay.mathu...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to install openmoko toolchain on ubuntu 8.10. But we are not able to succeed. Please suggest me how to proceed. I have read the material given on the link http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain. I found the instructions on the wiki were okay for installing the bare toolchain but I am still struggling with installing enlightenment into it. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install Toolchain?
On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:52:38 +0530 Tanmay Mathur tanmay.mathu...@gmail.com wrote: While installing the toolchain it says that commands om-conf and om-make-ipkg does not exist on my system(Ubuntu 8.10). the error is: bash: om-conf : command not found bash: om-make-ipkg : command not found Have you got this file? smi...@michael:~$ locate om-conf /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/om-conf -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to install Toolchain?
On Fri, 28 May 2010 16:56:47 +0530 Tanmay Mathur tanmay.mathu...@gmail.com wrote: Yes i have that file. The location is /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/om-conf What should i do next to make it work..? Just follow the howto I suppose. What are you trying to achive? -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtextended.org will be shutdown.
On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:56:36 +0200 Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Actually, sad to read ! Hope someone will host a mirror of this site. Is it possible ? I don't use the QT distros. Is this site important to the community? -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtextended.org will be shutdown.
On Thu, 20 May 2010 05:49:06 +0200 lorn.pot...@nokia.com wrote: Sad to say, http://qtextended.org will be shutting down permanently. This web site will be disappearing into the history of the web archive. Is the domain name available? What software does the site use? -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:51:57 +0700 Chuck Norris norris.ch...@mail.ru wrote: I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends a to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue creating it? I built my own bigger keyboards. The source repo is here: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/summary -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Set the time zone?
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:31:47 -0400 Iain B. Findleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: While I can set the time, I can't figure how to set the time zone on the FR under SHR-U. The tzselect utility does not work for me for some reason. Any suggestions? This is how I did it: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney /etc/localtime -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko purchase?
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:19:15 +1030 M.W microtec...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if its still possible to get a freerunner..? if so where would i find one in australia I imported a pack of five and got hit with GST when shipping it into the country. You should take that into account if you decide to import a phone. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. Have you tried a different USB cable? -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner
Having your web browser run as root is very dangerous. I hope we fix that soon. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:38:27 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: There are some interesting apps on your repos, but it would be nice to have some screenshot to understand better what is about and how it looks loke before installing them... Hi Thanks for the feedback. I have updated the mokolog web page with screen shots and usage information. http://glitch.tl/mokolog.html I have added a new screen shot for deskcat and tagged the latest version as 1.0. I now consider this application as safe to use. http://glitch.tl/deskcat.html The mkrpn applicaton has screenshots so I haven't changed its page but let me know if you think I can clarify anything. http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html In general I encourage people to only install packages which I link to from this category on my weblog: http://glitch.tl/Openmoko.html I put links there to packages when I think they are ready for people to try. A major release (1.0, 2.0, etc) should be considered mature. Smaller point releases (0.1, 1.1, etc) should be treated with caution. Regards, -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:01:39 +0100 Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com wrote: Just an idea, about DeskCat : since adding more categories - in order to remove desktop clutter - will _actually_ add new desktop clutter in the mean of category icons, wouldn't it be possible/better/stupid to only use one icon and cycle through categories? You could change that icon's title - or even pixmap - regarding the currently displayed category. Right now you can use the DeskCat application to put the category launchers into categories, so you can configure it that way if you want. You just have to work around a small bug: when you create a category its launcher doesn't appear in deskcat until after deskcat is restarted. This is because the application list is loaded at startup. Another way might be to have a single DeskCat application which lets you choose the category to display on the desktop. This way will be slower because of the need to open a GUI application but not as slow as flipping between two categories. I might try to implement this in the future. Regards, -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:25:36 +0100 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't tried it yet, but from what I'm reading, does it just move the .desktop file to subdir and then if I reinstall some package (and original .desktop file is restored) then I'll see both icons? It renames the .desktop for the application to .desktop.ignore which is ignored by the illume desktop. If the select the All icon then all desktop files are restored. You should probably do this before you upgrade any applications. The worst thing which could happen is if a desktop file changes in an upgrade and is hidden during an upgrade the new version would be overwritten by the old one when the desktop file is restored. Please also note that illume2 homescreen is said to be much more easier to customize/improve and shr-launcher/DeskCat features would be nice to have integrated there as SHR will move to illume2 as soon as it gets as usable as illume1 is now (hopefully soon as every new illume2 version is getting closer fast). Thats worth noting, thanks. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:26:02 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/ directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root) and download the files there? Sorry for butting in and changing the subject here but I think it is really bad for security that the whole openmoko userland, including web browsers, runs as root. I think it would be a good idea to consider running web browsers as a different user, possibly by launching them with su -c -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Application for desktop categories
The number of applications on the SHR Illume desktop was getting to be a problem for me so I wrote a program which will rename batches of .desktop files to a different extension and hide them. The blog post is here: http://glitch.tl/deskcat.html Screenshot: http://artifacts.glitch.tl/DESKCAT-0.2-screenshot.png Package: http://opkg.glitch.tl/deskcat_0.3_arm.ipk Source: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/deskcat/ Important: read the whole blog post before installing the package. This is somewhat experimental. Basically you define categories in the application and assign a category to any application. The application creates desktop launchers which will rename any managed .desktop files in /usr/share/applications to a different extention if they are not in the desired category. One problem with this application is that it does create quite a few .desktop files of its own and they do clutter the place up. The category icons could be put into categories of their own but that would make navigating slower. Please reply with any comments, complaints and feature requests. One thought I had after getting the application to work on the phone is that I could reduce the number of icons by using the GUI application to switch categories. Doing it that way would be slower and require more finger presses, but it would be tidier. -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:00:44 +0100 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] I plan to release new versions of this application and to develop others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I will post changes if that is a good way to work. IMHO the best way would be to post RSS feed on this ML, so other CU contributors could take advantage of it also. Sorry for the delay. I have reorganized my blog, while working on some new applications. Now, all of my openmoko apps will be posted in this page of my blog: http://glitch.tl/Openmoko.html This page has its own RSS feed. It can be submitted directly to a feed reader. There are two applications there and one article about the way I intend to manage my apps. Any new application will create a new article in that feed. Currently the applications available are: mkrpn 1.0 An RPN calculator mokolog 1.0 An event logger Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:06:34 +0200 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Michael Smith openm...@netapps.com.au writes: mkrpn 1.0 An RPN calculator Don't take this as a critique but how does this differ from the existing[*] RPN calculators, some cool touchscreen features? Thats a good point. I will have to give them a go. Incidentally I didn't find links to any of those applications browsing from openmoko.org though I didn't try very hard ;) I write applications for my own enjoyment. If other people find them useful, then that is a bonus. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:39:49 +0100 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html Hi Michael, on your blog, there is a link to 0.3 version. I suppose this is testing? 0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to the list. Please tell me how you go with it. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:16:54 +0100 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] 0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to the list. Please tell me how you go with it. No go at all. I am not testing it, just putting an entry in Community Updates to let people who do not read ML, know about your app. If you say 0.3 is better, than I'll put it to CU. Are you the contact for community updates? I plan to release new versions of this application and to develop others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I will post changes if that is a good way to work. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RPN Calculator application available
Hi All, I made it my job in the last day to get a simple application written so here is my RPN calculator. Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html Screen Shot: http://artifacts.glitch.tl/MKRPN-0.2-screenshot.png Package: http://opkg.glitch.tl/mkrpn_0.2_arm.ipk Source code: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/mkrpn/ Its pretty simple at the moment and I am aware of a few bugs. I am posting this mainly so others can send back complaints, suggestions and feature requests. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:06:10 +0100 Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, I made a simple currency calculator as I could not find any. Feature: * can save excahnge rate :-) That looks like a great application. Now if only we could find a way to install lots of utilities without making the default application launcher impossible to use... Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:18:17 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the FR? I'm looking for suggestions from the community - to see what to add. Make it as light as possible. If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. Just make it browse pages. Using Midori yesterday I wished for the ability to specify the size of all text on all pages. Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me. I don't normally need a traditional address field. URLs are better entered from a popup IMHO. Otherwise they are a waste of screen space. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:24:23 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to it to launch from. Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page will be nice to launch from. Michael Smith-5 wrote: Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me. Hmm. On this browser, I find the text relatively small. Hence the need to zoom the page. Michael Smith-5 wrote: I don't normally need a traditional address field. I agree. Do you feel comfortable with the current menu-url-url popup window? Thank you for your comments. I was also experimenting with the option to rotate the screen from the browser menu. Seems to work fine most of the time for me. Sorry I was talking generally about web browsers. I have tried to install elm_browser but I got these errors: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for browser: * libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05-0 (= 0.0.0+svnr44424) * edbus (= 0.5.0.060+svnr44424) * libdbus-1-3 (= 1.3.0) * libewebkit0 (= 0.1+gitr0+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472) * libgthread-2.0-0 (= 2.22.1) * libsqlite3-0 (= 3.6.20) * libxml2 (= 2.7.3) * libcurl4 (= 7.19.7) * libgnutls26 (= 2.4.2) * libgcrypt11 (= 1.4.1) * libstdc++6 (= 4.4.2) * libgcc1 (= 4.4.2) * libc6 (= 2.10) * libcairo2 (= 1.8.8) * libpixman-1-0 (= 0.17.3) * libpng12-0 (= 1.2.40) * libfribidi0 (= 0.19.2) * libeet1 (= 1.1.0+svnr44424) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.22.1) * I am running a version from October 10 2009 without subsequent updates. I assume that my problem is that I need to upgrade libraries. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone request
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:11:30 +0330 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure what is going on there. This : http://pastebin.com/m14b1ff8d Well something is clearly not working. See below. You could run build_package.ksh with set -x at the top to get more information, This way ? al...@alabd:/media/disk1/all/soft/openmoko/ring$ sudo ksh set -x build_package.ksh What operating system are you running on? Ubuntu Okay great. Do you have the siggen package installed? You need that. I never run from root but I use sudo to set the owner id of some files Sudo the same as root . Uh maybe. Try this command: tones -f -w five_tones.wav 500 d6 e6 c6 c5 g5:1000 Does it generate the five_tones.wav file? man tones ...should tell you how to use tones to generate a tone sequence. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone request
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:32:11 +0330 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful hello; You may be interested in my ringtones package. The source code is available from this URL: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/ringtones/file/tip It uses the signalgen package. Problem with building it : I am not sure what is going on there. You could run build_package.ksh with set -x at the top to get more information, or you could just run your own variation of create_tones.ksh and manually load the generated file onto the phone. What operating system are you running on? Is ksh installed? I never run from root but I use sudo to set the owner id of some files Hope that helps. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone request
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:04:57 +0330 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you but there was checked before a ring tone like nokia default ringtone You may be interested in my ringtones package. The source code is available from this URL: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/ringtones/file/tip It uses the signalgen package. A package which installs a few simple tones is available from here: http://opkg.glitch.tl/ringtones_0.1_arm.ipk I used this to make the five tones from the movie Close Encounters, which is my preferred ring tone. The limitation here is that signalgen is a very simple signal generator. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I still use my palm pilot as my PDA through I am writing an application for SHR to replace the palm pilot. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:19:10 +0100 Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote: +1 for plain wpa_supplicant in SHR I tried several GUIs but none of them was sufficient - now I use wpa_supplicant (in roaming mode with config file, not dbus) and wpa_gui to configure my wpa_supplicant.conf. Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:35:24 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually Okay thanks. I am thinking that it should be possible to put most of that procedure into a package, with a launcher icon to initiate the process. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Looking for some help with compilation
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:56:06 +0100 EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote: You shouldn't compile the E libs yourself in the toolchain, it's better to install them using the package management system (opkg-target). See here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Installing_New_Libraries That's what I did anyway, and IIRC it grabbed dependencies automatically. Thanks very much. That worked for me. I now have a package on line for my application: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/packages/raw-file/tip/dbview_0.1_arm.ipk It is a browser for sqlite databases. My source repository: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/dbview/ ...includes a script which generates the test database which is included in the package. Users can adapt this script to load their own datasets into the database to view with the tool. I plan to develop modules which understand the structure of specific tables. For example a module which behaves much like the palm contacts application using the contents of the PalmContacts table in the database. Currently the application should be considered an alpha version. It has some buttons which do nothing and it currently has no editing capability. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Looking for some help with compilation
I am working on an application for the openmoko. I am writing it in C using the Enlightenment toolkit. The general idea is to have an application which will browse an sqlite database in a generic way, then extend it to support specific types of databases. As an example I have written a script to import contacts from my palm pilot and import them into a table in a database. My application can now browse that database on ubuntu. The code can be found here: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/dbview/ ...and a screenshot can be found here... http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/dbview/raw-file/af435055d4f0/doc/screenshot.png So now I have an alpha version and I want to give it a run on the phone. I have followed the instructions from these pages: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Downloading_and_installing http://andreasdalsgaard.blogspot.com/2008/07/openmoko-development-in-5-minutes.html ...but the toolchain doesn't include any of the Enlightenment libraries. I built an Enlightenment toolchain on ubuntu by downloading the source and compiling it. It works well. Currently in /usr/local/include I have: Ecore_Config.hEcore_IMF.h Ecore_X.h Embryo.h Ecore_Con.h Ecore_Input.h Edje_Edit.h Evas_Engine_Buffer.h Ecore_Data.h Ecore_Ipc.h Edje.hEvas_Engine_Software_16_X11.h Ecore_Evas.h Ecore_Job.h Eet.h Evas_Engine_Software_X11.h Ecore_File.h Ecore_Str.h efreetEvas_Engine_XRender_X11.h Ecore_Getopt.hEcore_Txt.h eina-0Evas.h Ecore.h Ecore_X_Atoms.h elementary Ecore_IMF_Evas.h Ecore_X_Cursor.h Elementary.h Now when I compile these libraries in the openmoko toolchain in /usr/local/openmoko I find that I need pkg-config. I got that but I need glib. I got that but I can't get it to compile at all. I also investigated putting a development environment into the phone but I can't find any repositories which provide development stuff. So I am a bit stuck and I would appreciate it if anybody who has been down this path can tell me if I am going in the right direction. And if not, which way I should go. Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:39:15 +0330 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . See Now with this condition i will not use code.google.com with proxy , So please guide regarding to this fact . Are you able to download a different openmoko distribution, like SHR? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:41:53 +0330 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to download a different openmoko distribution, like SHR? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Yes , please guide on those questions nothing esle , no SHR no using proxy and other things : 4 - You said codes (stable) are also on repository so just we lack wiki and issue tracking Yes ? Is there any other wiki/any thing else that has wiki efficient for beginners at all is it necessary ? What does issue tracking mean Keeping track of software development. For example when you find a problem with some software you create an issue in the issue tracker. When the issue is fixed you close the issue. and is there any other site for issue tracking ? Lots. sourceforge.net is one such site. *ultimately what problems will a android user be faced without using code.google.com* and d.android.com ? Android users don't need the issue tracker. They should just need to install an image and use the phone. The issue tracker and wiki would only be important as a reference if they needed to solve a problem with the phone. 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? You can put a wiki on any system. There are many free wiki applications. For example mediawiki.org 6-What is this address http://source.android.com/download for ? Does it host codes also ? and why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians ? If you mean why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians the my answer is I don't see why it should be. Please tell us what you are trying to accomplish. You will get better advice that way. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:04:54 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few images... so can you please post yours when your work is done? Okay I will do that. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: #1024-rework service available
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:05:50 +1100 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Or Australia ? Hi. I'm in Melbourne too. Needing to buzz fix an A6 I asked a few electronics engineers. I was looking for somebody who would do delicate soldering work for an hourly rate. The consensus from people I spoke to was that while there are a few small businesses who do electronic work, few would be interested in small jobs. A co-worker of mine offered to do the buzz fix for me. This person tends to over rate his ability. I should have remembered this when I agreed for him to do the work. I plan to tool up and redo the soldering on that phone in the next couple of weeks. The problem with little jobs like this is liability. If he stuffs up, who takes responsibility? On small jobs it is impossible to get insurance. So I am going to do a buzz fix soon. The #1024 fix seems more complicated because you have to disassemble parts of the phone which may be hard to put back together. I might try this procedure on the phone which I am going to do the buzz fix on. I can more afford to stuff that one up. I will post the results here: http://glitch.tl/working_with_shr.html Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
I have updated my Alpha.kbd layout changes in this version: 1. Changed type to Alpha 2. Increased space between keys by one pixel to reduce typing mistakes 3. Added : and ; characters to facilitate typing emoticons The new version is available at this URL: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/18573b096dda/Alpha.kbd Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are available from this repository: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing layouts to be of little use without a stylus. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:22:31 +1300 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/10 Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au: I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are available from this repository: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing layouts to be of little use without a stylus. could you post some screenshots? Yes. http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/alpha.png http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/numeric.png (memo to self. After exporting display to moko to run xwd don't just start gimp from the same terminal without resetting display). -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:20:00 +0530 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: I loved it Thanks for your comments. Two more screenshots showing the shifted state: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/tip/alpha_shifted.png http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/tip/numeric_shifted.png -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:57:07 +0200 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote: Nooo!, where is the qwerty? :D on a more serious note, the qwerty layout is sufficiently imprinted in my mussle memory that any other layout is a deal breaker. (The same goes for navit) Be thankful I didn't go for AZERTY ;) Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote: I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be square? No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in the kbd file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are easy to work with. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:53 +0200 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote: On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:27:55 Michael Smith wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote: I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be square? No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in the kbd file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are easy to work with. :( Rectangular, wont work for what I hand in mind. Were you thinking about meshed triangular keys? Maybe you should ask the Enlightenment people about that. I have just adapted the existing layouts using information on the wiki page. I am sure there are some tricks there which I don't know about. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:10:05 +0200 Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You could use the screen rotating function under wrench -- screen -- screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already built in. Thats what I was looking for. I just didn't expect to find it under resolution. Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:58:15 +0200 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are available from this repository: Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout That didn't work all that nice :-( Tried to install them next to raster's keyboards, but they appeared all empty. Then I replaced rasters keyboard with these, but Enlightenment segfaulted, had to restart, lost my ssh into the brick and Enlightment wouldnt get back up .. ouch .. anyway The trick is, the files shouldnt start with comments. I removed the first 4 lines (so it starts with ##KBDCONF-1.0) and they work like a charm. Can't really run them side by side with Raster's, because the keyboard's canvas sizes are different; apparently, enlightenment chooses the canvas size of the first keyboard it finds and sticks to that. I have them all working now, but raster's keyboards are swimming in a pool of empty greyness. Great though - I'll stick to those. Oops sorry about that. I added the comments at the after I tested the last version. Bad luck finding a bug like that. I noticed that the keyboard window retains the geometry given to it by my larger keyboard layout. This was the reason why I started to update the numeric layout to the same size as the alphanumeric one. I have updated my repository http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/rev/1d5e2a734703 ...and tested that actual version on my phone. Thanks for giving it a go. I occasionally need the terminal layout so I may attempt a new version of that one as well. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:45:45 +0200 A.A. a...@email.it wrote: how can I download the keyboard layout? 1. Download these two files: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/1d5e2a734703/Alpha.kbd http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/1d5e2a734703/Numbers.kbd 2. Use SSH networking to copy them to the phone http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking 3. On the phone copy both files to /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards 4. Restart Enlightenment killall -HUP enlightenment It should also be possible to download them directly on the phone, then use the terminal to move the files to the correct location. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:05:43 +0200 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi I occasionally need the terminal layout so I may attempt a new version of that one as well. actually the 'type' of Alpha.kbd is set to 'TERMINAL' instead of 'ALPHA'. I haven't noticed any difference though. I think it's the quotes around the second character that makes it use the dictionray prediction. One character I was instantly missing was the :. I had to use the 'Terminal' layout to type a smiley :-) Yes I did that because I was trying to inhibit the predictive behaviour of the alphabetical keyboard to make it more like the terminal keyboard. I wrote these layouts for my wife so she could use the phone without a stylus. She has a strong dislike for predictive T9 style input methods. On her Motorola she prefers to press every key three times when typing an SMS. She is traveling soon but decided not to take the openmoko because it doesn't have a UI to display sent SMS messages. Also it was a bit tricky to use. I will set those layouts to the correct type and reissue them in the next couple of days. I will also see what I can do about the colon character. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:31:40 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:17 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote: I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode. None of the rotation applications look mature enough for me to install on my wife's phone. I am looking for a way to improve the keyboard for her. Thanks anyway. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:52:12 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: SHR-U is SHR's Unstable branch, the actively developed one. Your installation seems to be an Unstable one, a non-updated though. I had no problems upgrading from 8-8-2009 to today. Okay, thanks. I updated to the current version a couple of weeks ago and lost the ability to use GSM, among other things. I have since read about the necessity to reset kernel module dependencies after some updates. So if unstable is working at the moment I will do an update tonight. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:44:21 +0200 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote: last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS at all with FSO. However, two small problems: - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making the reading from the display rather hard I have a mobile phone handlebar case which I use with my etrex. The openmoko just barely goes in. I might have to look for a slightly larger case. - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( If I was touring I would consider taking solar power. Or maybe using suspend for part of the time. So my question: has anybody got any experiences with - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) - using some additional batteries? USB power is fairly easy to wire up. You just need to provide regulated power. The problem for me would be the mass of the external battery. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:46 +0200 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote: I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS at all with FSO. I am using SHR-U, which is doing the job very well. Thanks. What exactly is SHR-U? I have searched the wiki but I can't find that term used anywhere. I am running SHR in NAND from 8 August but I haven't updated it. Is your system up to date with opkg? I am trying to identify the differences behind my problem. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A6 for sale in Australia
Hi All, I bought a five pack of GSM-900 openmoko phones. One I am keeping (very happy now that I am running OM.2009). Three I have sold to other people. The price for the last phone is 336.42 Australian dollars. That is exactly one fifth of the price I paid for the pack, including GST and customs charges. The price includes shipping within Australia. This phone is unopened, still in the original packaging. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
