Re: QtMoko images V9

2009-09-11 Thread Mikko Husari
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Radek Polak wrote:
 Kahless wrote:
 
 The only thing that doesn't really work is Bluetooth. ATM it seems to 
 survive suspend/resume and my Headset is identified and paired. But 
 QtMoko doesn't use it while phoning.

 I can hear a small buzz (like phone without signal) but it doesn't work, 
 even when i switch to bluetooth Headset via Options in the lower left.

 Are there any plans to fix that in the future (even when QtMoko v9 is 
 the last one)?
 
 Hi Sascha,
 thanks for kind words :) As for bt - i am going to buy bluetooth headset
 so i will try to make this working. I cant promise when it will be done
 though.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek
 
 
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Im having some problems with V9 gprs, if it is always on then display
freezes some time after giving pin-number. I expect it hangs when gprs
gets connection. SSH still responds but /etc/init.d/qpe stop|start does
not restart qte...

kernel and rootfs are downloaded from
http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/download/ and I think
im using qi... (i think i need to update that as well)

Only things i've done after reflash, was inserting gprs userpwd and
switching it to always on. Otherwise it is a great image, thank you
for that :)

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-27 Thread Mikko Husari
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Fabio Locati wrote:
 I think that we should have a complete list of the QtEI GITs:
 - http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/
 - http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
 - http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git
 
 If you know others, please, report here.

Moro,

This is great! I have been hunting for such a list. What about the
differences between those, wikipage that explains which is most stable
and which is most bleeding edge would be nice.

AFAIK, karadog is supposed to be the stable one and others more or less
bleeding / dev..? Which ones are too bleeding to even consider and which
are meant just for the developer them selves to keep track on patches...

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Re: [QtEI] GITs

2009-04-27 Thread Mikko Husari
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 first of all, what does Moro mean? I've seen you using that word
 many times, but it doesn't exist in English :-)

Moro :)

... is a common way to greet each other in Tampere, Finland. I have seen
people use different languages in greetings on mailinglists and all of
them have been major languages and easy to guess, like hola. So, why
not raise the stakes :)

 So in short: my changes are stable ones (I only put things in the git
 that are tested), for now Lorn is bleeding edge (has things that are
 not working right now). Radek is also stable, but behind on patches.
 Karadog is stable 2.6.24, but also behind on patches (and kernel).
 Filip so far only put standard qtextended on github (because t that
 time, karadog was very busy and unavailable), no patches are
 integrated.

And of course this situation lives by the day and is not written on
stone, so no wiki page would be possible. Now I understand the lack of it.

 
 As you can see here, only lpotter is ahead for now:
 http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/network
 

Heh, I've been looking a different versions of that map and just
understood how that mapping is supposed to be used. It matters on what
you choose as your reference point, which I did not realize since in my
mind there was no such thing. Thank you for clarification and an
excellent insight on who has what. I think im going to start tracking
yours since karadog lacks patches.

Is the trac at karadog the only bugrepoting place, besides this list?


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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 9

2009-04-27 Thread Mikko Husari
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 from this url
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/, the
 following rootfs and uImage:
 uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
 openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090423-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 
 Franky

Moi,

I tried to compile qte from your git, it works nicely. Currently Im
using 2.6.24 kernel and when I tried with the one you suggest above, qte
keeps crashing on startup and then it tries to start again, only to
crash again. It might be because Im using rather old rootfs, or is it
possible that something else has gone wrong... I compiled same way as it
says on the wiki page and then used rsync -ar --delete to move the
files, that has worked before.

Is it possible to just upgrade my root using opkg upgrade and then boot
to the more recent kernel, or is reflash (rootfs) needed?

ps. I have not read your install script since I would like to stay pure :p

Thanks as usual :)

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 9

2009-04-27 Thread Mikko Husari
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:55:00 +0300
 Mikko Husari hu...@husku.net wrote:
 
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 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 from this url
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/, the
 following rootfs and uImage:
 uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119800+0b9d21bf5d05d5dd909425a67a8be2eb1c1fc579-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
 openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090423-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

 Franky
 Moi,

 I tried to compile qte from your git, it works nicely. Currently Im
 using 2.6.24 kernel and when I tried with the one you suggest above,
 qte keeps crashing on startup and then it tries to start again, only
 to crash again. It might be because Im using rather old rootfs, or is
 it possible that something else has gone wrong... I compiled same way
 as it says on the wiki page and then used rsync -ar --delete to
 move the files, that has worked before.

 Is it possible to just upgrade my root using opkg upgrade and then
 boot to the more recent kernel, or is reflash (rootfs) needed?

 ps. I have not read your install script since I would like to stay
 pure :p
 
 well, that's the reason why it crashes: because you want to stay
 pure :-)
 In 2.6.28 kernels, the qpe.sh script is slightly different, and I copy
 a modified version over to /etc/init.d in my install script.
 But I could just as well change it in the sourcecode ... I'll do
 that :-)
 
 Franky
 

Cool, Thank you very much :)

/me waits for a commit...

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Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

2009-04-24 Thread Mikko Husari
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Radek Polak wrote:
 Hi Mikko,
 i have already something descibed it in previous mail. But in more
 details it's like that:
 
 Let's say you have working project for X11/QT in QTCreator.

Moro Radek!

Im having some problems and, well, turning for your advice. I created a
project and got it ported nicely but the window shows up in the top-left
corner on moko display and, it is not fullscreen... it also lacks the
theme of qte, so it looks gray. I studied the examples in qte build dir
and noticed that those use some macros to create the main(), after hours
of try and error I gave up.

Do you use those macros to create your main, and if not, how do you
manage to make your app fullscreen and with the correct theme?

I appreciate all the help you have given and are hoping to receive some
nice pointers again. So, kudos in advance.

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Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

2009-04-23 Thread Mikko Husari
Roland wrote:
 Hello all,

 I want to get a little more involved in development for Qtei. Especially
 after Franky's cry for help. Franky: I have to agree with Leonardo - great
 work! To you and everybody else working on Qtei - I'm really impressed with
 the improvements in the last months.
 So why am I writing this mail...
 I have downloaded the sources of Qtextended and also built it a couple of
 times. I also did a checkout of the new git repository and that worked for
 me as well. But any changes I made I had to type into a plain text editor
 and that is kind of annoying.

 Is there any IDE one can use for the development?
 Coming from software development with Qt Desktop I think I would be able to
 contribute, but working with a normal editor is not really fun.
   
This article came as a surprise to me, maybe to you too:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtCreator_C%2B%2B/Qt

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Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

2009-04-23 Thread Mikko Husari
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Radek Polak wrote:
 Roland wrote:
 
 how do you run (and debug) the Qte applications on your PC? I know that Qte
 can be build for qtfb (or something like that) but I had some compile errors
 and didn't try again. Do you use this?
 
 I write the application just as normal QT application. Running and
 debugging on regular QT/X11. When i am done with coding and debugging
 i just port the application to QTE.
 
 How do you import the project into Qt Creator? Is there a project file in
 the git repository or does Qt Creator work just with the Makefile?
 
 I start the app as normal QT application. Then i port it to QTE.
 This is possible because Qtopia contains all the classes as big
 QT has.
 
 It's my first application and first program that i wrote in C++ so
 there might appear problems with this approach, but right now it
 works just fine.
 
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Moro,

Would you mind elaborating the steps of porting since your way of
development sounds good, it removes much of the hassle as its not needed
to cross-compile every so often. Do you mean by porting that you need to
make changes to your code, or to just compile it differently?

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Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

2009-04-23 Thread Mikko Husari
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Radek Polak wrote:
 Hi Mikko,
 i have already something descibed it in previous mail. But in more
 details it's like that:
 

Holy Crap Batman!

I saw your first description but I did not realize it was all what was
needed :)


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Re: [QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo

2009-04-23 Thread Mikko Husari
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 But personally I haven't had any luck as well trying to get this to work.
 Other people besides me are trying to build a better gps application.

Moro,

I stumbled on a new (at least for me) gps app for qte while on a quest
for some examples, I havent yet tested it but just thought you might
like to know...

http://github.com/Blackhex/qtopiagps/

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Re: OpenMoko newbie questions

2009-04-23 Thread Mikko Husari
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Foss User wrote:
 I have a few questions on OpenMoko phones. I am planning to buy one.
 
 1. Which is the default OS that comes in OpenMoko: OM 2007 ?
 

When I got mine (last december), it had 2007.x and it stayed there for a
few hours, then it got replaced, many times :)

 2. Do you use the default OS or have you flashed soe other OS of your own?
 

No, and you should also try as many as possible.

 3. Which OS is known for booting faster than others. I use Debian on
 my laptop and I would want to know how good Debian is for Freerunner?
 Does it boot fast enough?
 
No experience with debian on freerunner, it should be just as fast as
others. It all depends on what software you decide to use as a user
interface. In my opinion, Qt Extended Improved feels the fastest but i
was quite pleased with the recent shr-unstables too. Most phonelike
would be the Qt Extended Improved.

 4. Is multi-touch in neo freerunner not availabe because the hardware
 doesn't support it or is it because the software doesn't support it?
 

This is a hw-issue but there are a few propeller heads which try to
circumvent that by sw.

 5. In the OpenMoko Neo Freerunner order page I have two options relevant to 
 me.
 
 Purchase Options
 
 * GSM 900 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 * GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 
 Now, I don't know which one I should be going for. I am from  India
 and we use GSM sim cards here. I use Vodafone SIM card. So which is
 the one I should be buying?
 

India uses the GSM 900/1800 frequency.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080116131550AASW7Yn
http://www.simoncells.com/scripts/gsmzone.asp

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Re: [QtExtended] call for help

2009-04-21 Thread Mikko Husari
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 why should I? I'm just one guy
 that happened to put some stuff together, not a company with a bunch of
 developers behind it.
 The same goes for bluetooth.
 So: every qtopia/qt/qtextended developer in this list, please jump in.
 If no response is received, I might as well consider that
 qtextended-on-freerunner is not wanted/needed anymore ... 
 
 Franky
 

Hey! Dont be so blue, qtei is excellent and even I have started poking
around with it. Yet I dont have needed expertise to fix that kind of
bugs but maybe some day. At the moment qtei seems to be best in
usability between freerunner distros!

You and others in qte/qtei development have been doing astonishing work,
which I hope, continues in future. I appreciate your efforts and I
believe others do too, even if it does not show :)

ps. i compiled my first example program today, hooray \o/


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[QT Extended Improved] GPS Mapping Demo

2009-04-21 Thread Mikko Husari
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Moro,

I compiled my own qtei binaries from git-repo and tried to use the
Mapping Demo program, but it gets stuck on Connected, waiting for fix.
If I use the provided demo nmea log, it seems to work properly.

I also tried with '-modules location' configure option before make but
it did not improve the situation, what could be wrong or where would the
hints be hidden?

btw, where are the logs, I want to examine them by ssh.


Thanks in advance.


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