Re: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 00:31 schrieb Steven **: Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't give them the information. And that's better than FIC how? HTC phones are commodity hardware that anybody can buy right here and right now. Linux on HTC Universal supports WIFI and UMTS _today_ ( http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus ) Unfortunately many people prefer to whine about the features of future unreleased devices, instead of writing some productivity software useful for the end-users ;-) Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 01:42 schrieb Robin Paulson: are we duplicating work? familiar is 6+ years old, i'm sure they must have some good ideas that can be used? maybe we can make openmoko a fork from their project? Robin, please read down to the bottom of the status page. All modern GUI environments (openmoko,gpe,opie and qtopia/opie2) are supported. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New HTC Touch
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 18:17 schrieb Fabien: As a former HTC customer I can only agree: hardware is great Are you joking ? This is the cheapest mass-market HTC design based on OMAP850 CPU. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Update!
Am Montag, 4. Juni 2007 09:09 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Looking at recently released code from coreteam it will be SMedia chip. Yes, having such chip http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm would be really nice. And as user of ATI gfx cards I am happy that they do not use ATI chipsets as they (ati) have no idea how opensource way works - I see it each time when want to update X.org drivers (free one or propertiary one). ATI is even more secretive about their Imageon line ;-) Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Update!
Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2007 17:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator This one needs more clarification. I doubt that it will be some ATI chipset. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS Navigation Software (roadster)
Am Sonntag, 27. Mai 2007 16:56 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: We could use the prop. maps for navigation, and when we get internet access, we could upload the GPS coordinates to OSM. That way the OSM could be improved without too much effort. We need a nice implementation for this. http://www.freemap.co.il/roadmap Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Durability of the Neo1973?
Am Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2007 02:03 schrieb polz: Can anyone here suggest an HTC phone which can be bought in Europe for less than $400 and can run linux well enough to dial out and somehow connect to a PC ? apropos connect. The acx100_cs works since yesterday, so wifi can be used on Blueangel now (not only on the Universal). Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices
Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2007 19:16 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Then compare it to HTC Artemis: It has QVGA screen 2.8, cpu: omap850 200MHz, 64M ram, 128M flash. omap850 is probably the worst modern CPU for running Linux. It is slow, undocumented and uses main DRAM for the GSM operation. There are much better alternatives using PXA27x and s3c2442. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 17:43 schrieb Pedro Aguilar: I don't remember exactly the price of the car kit, I think it was around US$50 I think it was US$70, and includes the GSM antenna. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wifi again
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 12:24 schrieb t3st3r: P.S. As for me, I'm still do not understand, why there is no WI-FI built in. This is a BIG hardware design mistake IMHO. It does not make sense to complain here about the (missing) hardware features. If you urgently need wifi in a phone take a HTC model where the ACX100 chipset has Linux support (Universal). Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wifi again
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 23:57 schrieb t3st3r: hacking linux to HTC and getting wi-fi to work is not impossible ... The screenshots id=88 and id=89 at http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=3 are showing openmoko running on HTC Universal. WiFi is disabled because (guess(!)) openmoko _GUI_ does not support wifi... Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possibilities for commercial software?
Am Dienstag, 30. Januar 2007 04:24 schrieben Sie: Then on what basis, Oleg, do you make the statement Free-Software-only is the goal without prefixing that sentence with In my opinion ... ? Because it's an unmoderated community list, and not an openmoko-a-lawyer-from-FIC-already-approved-my-posting list. Everybody posts his personal opinion here. From http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community : This mailinglist is for open discussion and feedback The official http://www.openmoko.com says : If you are interested in developing Free Software applications for the OpenMoko platform, please send information... Everyone -- thanks again for your interest in our work. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possibilities for commercial software?
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 02:52 schrieb Mike: If someone from OM chimes in and says OSS-only really is the goal, I'll buy a Palm Treo tomorrow and never look at this project again. Free-Software-only is the goal, but it's unfortunately not easy to achieve and depends on our common efforts. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GIS on the Moko!
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 16:09 schrieb Paolo Cavallini: My idea is to make the same think on the OM platform. The QGIS port to qtopia4.2 should be much easier, don't you think ? Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possibilities for commercial software?
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 17:30 schrieb Mike: Are you one of the people running the OM project? No. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GIS on the Moko!
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 16:53 schrieb Paolo Cavallini: Sure, but will qtopia have a gps? gpsd(8) does not depend on GUI environment. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another GPS post from a GL engineer
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2007 16:50 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: THERE are four basic sorts of GPS: Autonomous - the standard hand-held device that gets a fix in 1 to 3 minutes outdoors Ok, so we have a confirmation from GL that the 50bps datastream is available, can be decoded and used. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possibilities for commercial software?
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 22:04 schrieb Ortwin Regel: What about DRM Defective by design ? is there a way to bind a program to a sync ID like it's usually done with PalmOS or to a device ID? (It should be possible to bind it to an SD card ID, right?) Don't forget that all data goes through the kernel. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need info on AGPS
Am Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 23:09 schrieb Marc Verwerft: 2. The chip in the Neo1973 is a Global Locate AGPS. Anybody know what type? Hammerhead maybe? It is probably the same chipset as in ipaq hw6[59]15: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SableGPS 3. I understand the concept of assisted GPS. But does the phone have it's own antenna/receiver so that it can work without 'assistance'? Yes. AGPS is only for those who have extra cash to burn. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 00:17 schrieb Dave Crossland: The presence of a proprietary userland binary in the main/official distribution makes it a crippled device which actively impose upon our Freedoms. IMHO the right way to deal with this particular problem is to break the GL communication protocol, and not just simply complain on this list. Get a phone, make extensive serial port dumps, correlate the data with pseudoranges provided by sirf/italk/whatever ... Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some clarifications for the AGPS/SUPL/OMA threads in the OpenMoko list.
Am Dienstag, 26. Dezember 2006 03:45 schrieb Marcus Bauer: LTO is a nice convenience for people who ... can't wait out there 45 seconds TTFF. It can't be formulated better :) [1] Sirf Reference guide, 2-7 set almanac, 2-18 set ephemeris http://www.usglobalsat.com/downloads/SiRF_Binary_Protocol.pdf Dear GlobalLocate engineers, this is exactly the chipset specification we need from you. Nothing about your implementation of AGPS, LTO, etc. Only the information about packet structure, time, pseudorange, carrier phase, Doppler shift. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no market - my 2 cents
Am Samstag, 23. Dezember 2006 15:50 schrieb Vinh: Wouldn't it be possible to build a phone based on openMoko, but with another additional hardware? Build a phone ? Only if you are going to finance the hardware development :) IMHO the first non-FIC phone that will be capable of running openmoko is HTC Universal http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no market - my 2 cents
Am Freitag, 22. Dezember 2006 16:52 schrieb Koen Kooi: hw6515 is an outdated device that is not produced anymore. To be fair one should compare with HTC Hermes. qvga/64mb ram/wince versus vga/128MB ram/linux True, but this is only one side of a medal. ATI-accelerated qvga vs samsung built-in VGA, full keyboard, BT, 802.11g, UMTS, 2 cams. And don't expect wince to run on this device for a long time. I'm all pro-openmoko, but we should be realistic when it comes to the hardware. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Can The Proprietary GPS Daemon Be Removed?
On 12/3/06 10:41 AM, Frode edorfaus at xepher.net wrote: My question is: would it be possible to use non-assisted GPS without the proprietary daemon? Nobody concerned about their privacy will want to use the daemon. In the worst-case scenario you should compute the navigation solution from pseudorange data provided by this chipset. To extract it, the same raw data can be logged simultaneously with a sirf receiver using tools from http://www.ualberta.ca/~ckuethe/gps Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is it portable? [scanned]
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 17:29 schrieb Robert Michel: AFAIK FIC is supporting OpenMoko to build a plattform for their hardware - so why should FIC support developer to publish drivers for Motorola devices inside the OpenMoko SDK? IMHO, you are missing the point of Free Software. FIC is in the hardware business, and they should better think how to match or append the HTC product line. When openmoko code is released, it will not take much time to adapt multiplexing code for the videophone on HTC Universal or port it to HTC Hermes http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardwareOverview It is interesting how the openmoko team will address these issues. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is it portable? [scanned]
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 18:43 schrieb Robert Michel: To think about to use this SDK for other phones, just from the beginning is in my eyes a little bit impolite - and thinking of other phones because of a faster CPU or Wi-fi or a camera to shortsighted and egocentric (I like most to play with Wi-fi...) I don't really get your point. Working wifi on a phone already exists. What does openmoko SDK change here ? Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
