Re: Neo 1973 certification in Russia (Rostest)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to have Neo1973 in Russia. AFAIK there is a problem about certification in Rostest. I can discover certification procedure and prices from Rostest. I wrote following email at Rostest (in Russian): Greetings yet another bullshit certification procedure designed to keep stuff out the market... I have 3 questions about cellular phones certification: Corean company FIC releases Neo 1973 smartphone: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/ru So: Is it certified by Rostest? How much certification will cost? Which certification procedure you can offer? Thanks, Anatoly And i got answer: Greetings, Anatoly I need to know: - Is you a manufacturer? - Have you a contract with manufacturer and are you a reseller? - Want you to import producion? How much amount? Cost and procedure of certification depends of it. Svetlana, Rostest (my English is very average, sorry for mistakes) Is anyone from manufacturers or team, who interested in certification Neo 1973 in Russia? Can we acts cooperatively? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: p2p/mesh cellphone network
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/11/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6987784.stm I'm wondering what they had to do to the radio to make it possible, or if it is at all with GSM. Sounds like maybe they used something different. Of course this phone could do it with WiFi or Bluetooth, purely in software. could be done with 802.11s like what is used in the OLPC ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charger for neo1973
Steven ** wrote: I'm not sure if your goal is to actually use it in-flight, or just to charge from a battery. If it's the latter, see: http://www.instructables.com/id/EGBQJPLCB2EP287KTZ/ http://www.instructables.com/id/E1QBI60DAJEQZJHW8Y/ http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-4/qid=1189541560/ref=sr_1_4/602-0392629-9428653?ie=UTF8asin=B000IOKLZM carrying this in a plane could potentially land you in gitmo, if some dumbass TSA agent that doesn't know anything takes the thingie with wires and batteries for a bomb ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stylus alternative
Robin Paulson wrote: so, i've been following the discussion on finger-based vs. stylus-based apps. and i thought it might be a good idea to come up with some ideas for something between the two: a short (20-30mm long) piece of kit, attached to the finger end it would not be gripped between fingers and thumb but instead would slip over the end of one finger. it could either be a metal/plastic ring, or a soft, close-fitting cap, such as the rubber types used by money-counters. a point would be needed to apply pressure to the screen - this could be a short piece of metal/plastic, rigidly attached to the ring/cap part of the stylus. myself, i would be more likely to carry one (lot smaller than stylus, cheap to replace if lost) and if it was well-designed it would be virtually unnoticeable by others anyone else see my vision? or am i insane? already invented (and probably patented up the wazoo) http://www.truetip.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: I think it is important to get the neo1973v2 out on sale as soon as possible. Then we can make software that may defend the price. I don't think the basic version could be sold for any less than $400. Maybe the advanced kit could be sold for $500? I don't know. But I think that the phone is so special that it can defend the price. It just need some good looking, well featured and optimized software. we need * flawlessly working dialer * flawlessly working address book * flawlessly working SMS send/receive the rest can probably wait ;D ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors
Kalle Kärkkäinen wrote: Mikko Rauhala wrote: Hell, a simple app for encrypted voice calls over GSM data will instantly make it the cheapest, most transparent secure cellular, adding it on the top of the shopping list of another niche. I'm sure there are other killer features that add a niche at a time. And those add up. Yeah, thats the kind of Freedom fighting ads Openmoko needs.. :) Are you scared of the big brother? Heres a cheap phone for secure calls! Don't get me wrong, it's great that people can build up on this. But it might well be that this kind of features narrow chances on *certain* markets. ECHELON are you listening? ;) agreed. it appear those things are so expensive that I couldn't find any price for it. (searching for secure cell phone on google) also, it appears that none of those things can talk to one another, each doing it's little thing. now, if we can have something similar to an STUIII phone, with public keys and stuff (think either using gpg or ca-cert keys), we're on to something that could become a standard. one thing though, we may need a special tempest proof version of the case for that to be sufficiently secure ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors
Ted Lemon wrote: At a minimum, we need: - It's got to actually work as a mobile phone. that's the most important thing - At least several hours of H.264 playback. possibly doable but I don't believe the current hardware can handle it - A good music app, ideally tied in to the Amazon/Universal store. with the amount of DRM shit those morons are going to require, forget it leave people put their own stuff on there. no silly iTunes crap - Smart connectivity - connecting up bluetooth devices has to be easy, and sensing and connecting to known WiFi networks has to be seamless and automatic. agreed - Mobile Safari-like web browsing - that is, you get to see the whole web page, and you can expand and contract the image. ok - Leverage the GPS to do things the iPhone doesn't do. that should be somehow tied with openstreetmap ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMedia 3362
Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the opengraphics people with their project, the goal of which is to create a graphics controller asic that would be used for embedded systems. Using the opengraphics asic in the openmoko platform would be, IMNSHO the proper thing to do ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Myth Busting FTW
Nkoli wrote: Somebody really has their knickers in a bunch. http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/B10AE668-EAD3-46DC-A042-5EF3461D63EF.html All that FUD is making me woozy @_@ my prefered part is : = So much for the glorious freedom of choosing your own provider. Any real choice is prevented by the proprietary differences between GSM mobile providers like ATT and the CDMA2000 providers like Sprint and Verizon Wireless who don't offer GSM service at all. = looks like these people believe that outside the US is here be dragons land... last I checked, the rest of the world only has GSM in one form or another and only the US plays with 5 different cell phone protocols ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
