Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined
Hi there, I got this eMail. I will try to get more information to get a few hours of time for us. Greetings Serdar Dear Serdar Dere, Unfortunately your devroom request for FOSDEM 2011 was declined. You might have discovered this indirectly already, we are very sorry for that. Something went wrong in the sending of the decline-mails, we did not wish for this to happen in this way. To clarify, your request was perfectly valid, but we had to choose. Unfortunately we do not have a sufficient number of rooms to our disposal to cover all requests. Nevertheless, there are other ways to participate in FOSDEM too. A call for participation will be announced around next week on our website, with opportunities to: - have a stand at FOSDEM, - hold a FOSDEM lightningtalk in one of the biggest rooms, - speak in one of the other devrooms. More specifically, like previous years there will be an 'embedded' devroom for all software on embedded and mobile devices. The contact person is Philippe De Swert philippedesw...@gmail.com, contact him if you wish to participate in this devroom. On behalf of the FOSDEM devroom team, Tias Am 31.10.10 11:49, schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer: Seems as we lost our devroom after all. Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception thanks to Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately FOSDEM organizers fail to realize the importance of mobile technologies, hence desktop stuff is still set and obviously if you had a room for 'n' years, you will have it every year. *sigh* Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or so. Dunno. Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation after all? Not me. A lightning talk about the state of FSO on foreign hardware makes no sense to me and the program of the embedded room seems to be fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings for years now. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Devroom for FOSDEM11
Submitted on 09/30/2010 - 21:51 Submitted by anonymous user: [XX.XX.XX.XX] Submitted values are: Developer Room: devroom name: hackable mobile devices devroom description: Talks about the past, present and future of hackable mobile devices, respective development platforms and communities devroom related URLs: http://www.openmoko.org http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner http://shr-project.org http://www.freesmartphone.org/ http://qtmoko.org http://www.hackable1.org/ and more... Contact Info: name of the responsible: Serdar Dere email: ser...@serdar-dere.net relation to the topic: I am a member of Android-on-Freerunner project and I orginized the Openmoko devroom on FOSDEM10 Optional: preferred day: Saturday from 12:00 to 18:00 comments/remarks: The results of this submission may be viewed at: http://fosdem.org/2011/node/19/submission/776 Am 30.09.10 08:27, schrieb Patryk Benderz: Dnia 2010-09-30, czw o godzinie 00:41 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra pisze: How about: Talks about the past, present and future of hackable mobile devices, respective development platforms and communities Much better :) [cut] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Devroom for FOSDEM11
I will register the hackable mobile devices devroom now, which day would you guys prefer? Sat. 12-18 CEST Sun. 10-17 CEST my devroom description is: Talks and discussion about hackable mobile devices like Openmoko, Nokia... Do you got a better one? Greetings Serdar Am 27.09.10 22:28, schrieb Serdar Dere: your suggestion is: hackable mobile devices? sounds good to me. I am calling for papers for some (or all and more) papers I suggested previously. MfG Serdar Am 27.09.10 20:50, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 27.09.2010 um 20:14 schrieb Serdar Dere: Hi guys, I am taking the initative again, like the last time. Kudos to you! But I would change the topic. Last time it was called Openmoko Devroom, but I want to change it to Hackable Devices Devroom for next FOSDEM. Sounds good to me. As far as I understand the policy of the Devroom decisions they favour more general topics instead of single projects (although there are some). If I look through the list of topics, there should be a little more focus on hackable *mobile* devices (there are routers, embedded boards etc.). Also note that there was an Embedded Devroom collecting a lot of different topics every year (I think in 2007 Sean's presentation was part of that). See: http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/list-devrooms-their-call-talks Embedded / Mobile (contact email) The embedded/mobile room is the place to be for people with an interest in everything small, hidden, with different CPU's and/or a gadget or mobile device. Here we discuss and present things like hacking your phone, PDA or router and everything about cross-compiling. The people that gather here are usually doing tons of cool stuff with small low-powered devices, from playing music to controlling big and complex systems. So we must somehow differentiate from that or we simply get merged. What do you think about it? ++ My intention is, that other projects can join us, like Nitdroid, or the goldendelicious guys with other projects. Definitively! In that case we can get more than one day and 3h for us. What do you guys think about it? Second part: I would love if some people who can help on following topics can contact me: * History and future of Openmoko or/and hackable devices * SHR * FSO * QTMOKO * AOF (Android-on-Freerunner) * HACKABLE:1 * DEBIAN * GENTOO * GAMERUNNER * MER * OPENWRT * QALEE * THINGS I CAN'T THINK OF (not important that all are represented but it would be nice) Thanks in advance. Greetings Serdar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Devroom for FOSDEM11
Hi guys, I am taking the initative again, like the last time. But I would change the topic. Last time it was called Openmoko Devroom, but I want to change it to Hackable Devices Devroom for next FOSDEM. What do you think about it? My intention is, that other projects can join us, like Nitdroid, or the goldendelicious guys with other projects. In that case we can get more than one day and 3h for us. What do you guys think about it? Second part: I would love if some people who can help on following topics can contact me: * History and future of Openmoko or/and hackable devices * SHR * FSO * QTMOKO * AOF (Android-on-Freerunner) * HACKABLE:1 * DEBIAN * GENTOO * GAMERUNNER * MER * OPENWRT * QALEE * THINGS I CAN'T THINK OF (not important that all are represented but it would be nice) Thanks in advance. Greetings Serdar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Devroom for FOSDEM11
your suggestion is: hackable mobile devices? sounds good to me. I am calling for papers for some (or all and more) papers I suggested previously. MfG Serdar Am 27.09.10 20:50, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 27.09.2010 um 20:14 schrieb Serdar Dere: Hi guys, I am taking the initative again, like the last time. Kudos to you! But I would change the topic. Last time it was called Openmoko Devroom, but I want to change it to Hackable Devices Devroom for next FOSDEM. Sounds good to me. As far as I understand the policy of the Devroom decisions they favour more general topics instead of single projects (although there are some). If I look through the list of topics, there should be a little more focus on hackable *mobile* devices (there are routers, embedded boards etc.). Also note that there was an Embedded Devroom collecting a lot of different topics every year (I think in 2007 Sean's presentation was part of that). See: http://archive.fosdem.org/2010/list-devrooms-their-call-talks Embedded / Mobile (contact email) The embedded/mobile room is the place to be for people with an interest in everything small, hidden, with different CPU's and/or a gadget or mobile device. Here we discuss and present things like hacking your phone, PDA or router and everything about cross-compiling. The people that gather here are usually doing tons of cool stuff with small low-powered devices, from playing music to controlling big and complex systems. So we must somehow differentiate from that or we simply get merged. What do you think about it? ++ My intention is, that other projects can join us, like Nitdroid, or the goldendelicious guys with other projects. Definitively! In that case we can get more than one day and 3h for us. What do you guys think about it? Second part: I would love if some people who can help on following topics can contact me: * History and future of Openmoko or/and hackable devices * SHR * FSO * QTMOKO * AOF (Android-on-Freerunner) * HACKABLE:1 * DEBIAN * GENTOO * GAMERUNNER * MER * OPENWRT * QALEE * THINGS I CAN'T THINK OF (not important that all are represented but it would be nice) Thanks in advance. Greetings Serdar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FOSDEM 2011
Hi guys, I organized this year a devroom for our Android on Freerunner Project and got one for 3h. But 3h was too much for our project, that's why I forced mickey and other to make some paper to present. I can take care next year too because I know the guys and talked much with them. But if David is eager to do it, he is welcomed :) Greetings Serdar Am 02.09.10 23:21, schrieb David Lanzendörfer: Hi folks, Hi mickey FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms. (http://www.fosdem.org/2011/) Ok. Let us have one ^_^ After our lucky mini-appereance which was quite well received, I wonder whether anyone would be interested in organizing a combined SHR/FSO/? devroom for next year. Jup. I will not have enough time to take the wheel on this, however I volunteer to do something (presentation, workshop, whatever) should we get the opportunity to have such a room. Yes. Ok. I could take care of that. Would just be cool to have you have a presentation. Cheers, :M: dito leviathan ;-D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
Who asked my images are not real?? ;) The problem is, that Froyo ARMv5 optimized but not for ARMv4, that makes it hard for us. The other problem is, that Jim Ancona is our only developer. We are looking for developers. Everybody is welcomed to help (contribute, test etc.) MfG Serdar Am 03.09.10 11:12, schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiyprishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barroda...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android: can't connect to adb
you didn't forget enabling usb debugging? Greetings Serdar Am 10.05.10 08:40, schrieb Radek Polak: On Saturday 08 May 2010 04:32:22 Leonti Bielski wrote: To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before connection is lost again :( Has anyone experienced this weird problem? Just general help: - Try another cable - Try another USB port - USB ports soldered on motherboard work better. Maybe it helps, Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems getting android to run
Hi Jozef, how did you tried it? here is a short review: unpack contents of tar.gz to fat run nor boot from micro sd that should work -- flashing kernel.img to kernel and system.img to rootfs should also work (if you are able to use usb cable to flash) master/eclair is experimental if you want to try you can do it. Useing only sd for booting should work too, there must be an issue at googlecodes. We are trying to think a new solution of the installer so we can use every qi we want and not reflash it everytime Greetings Serdar Am 19.02.10 23:28, schrieb Jozef Siska: Hi, I was trying to get adnroid running on my freerunner... I first tried the automated install (i put it o a fat-only sd, and then also on one with exactly one fat and one ext2 partition...) It booted, installed qi then showed a white screen and rebooted, the red led blinked (might be that it blinked multiple times very fast, hard to say..), vibrated and then stayed on the white screen The blink of the red led was shorter then a normal boot (I put in a sd card with shr on it and it booted ok, the red led blinked shortly (presumably for the first FAT partition) and then lighted-up for a longer time before the kernel came up...) I tried flashing the kernel and rootfs manualy through dfu-util (kernel.img and system.img, though I am not really sure if these are the right files...), but it seems that qi can't boot it. When trying without a sd card the red led lights up (for a longer time, like when I was able to boot shr from sd), it vibrates shortly 2 times and nothing else happens... With a sd card without a usable system, it just blinks and vibrates. The same happens, when I flash a shr kernel and rootfs to the neo, so it seems to be a qi problem... (NOR u-boot boots the shr kernel just fine..., gets a CRC error on the android kernel, which is what I expected...) Then I tried loading the kernel through dfu-util directly to memory and booting it, this booted the kernel, displayed a logo and stayed there... Is there any way to disable the logo / enable some debug output to see what is going on? I tried android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz and also android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20100214.tar.bz2 and android-on-freerunner-master-daily-20100210.tar.bz2 from http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ the master branch doesn't have the logo, so it shows a lot of output, I saw a lot of nand_read_bbt: bad block... mesasges, though if I boot up shr, I can mount and use the mtd partition without problems... (or if I flash and run SHR from nand...) the last screenfull of messages looked like: init: cannot find '/system/bin/ifconfig', disabling 'usb-ether' init: command 'class_start' r=0 init: processing action 0x37c20 (boot) init: command 'mount' r=0 a lot of init: command 'chown' r=0 and 'setprop' r=0 ... init: processing action 0x34e40 (property: persist.service.adb.enable=1) init: starting adbd init: command 'start' r =0 s3c-ohci s3c-ohci: susped root hub and that it stayed there... Btw, for any it stayed there I usually went doing another things and left it few times for even an hour... So I guess it certainly wasn't doing anything... ;) Any hints / suggestions? yoyo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installer
I tried this toolchain too yesterday and trying hacking the code, but I am not a good programmer and failed :/ If someone can look at the code and try to compile and change the bootloader, kernel etc. to new one so we can try to use the installer for any distribution. Greetings Serdar Am 08.02.10 22:20, schrieb ghislain: Serdar Dere wrote: like I told, this won't work. or you got a better toolchain than I have. I use the toolchain as described on the wiki-pages: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Downloading_and_installing http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Downloading_and_installing I've installed it in /opt/toolchains/ That works for me. Ghislain http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend - http://www.openmobile.nl openmobile.nl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Videos of FOSDEM 2010 available now
Hi there, the main talks and lightning talks are online now. http://video.fosdem.org/2010/ No openmoko videos available, sorry. Greetings Serdar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM future
But the charger. backflash cooking AND SMS2TOAST!!! Am 08.02.2010 um 22:15 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 08.02.2010 um 22:05 schrieb Neil Jerram: On 8 February 2010 20:27, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: unfortunately off-limits right now... until... something is publically announced. keep your ears peeled. :) wait no longer, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlxr8t1nZMfeature=youtube_gdata That is very funny! Indeed! I would happy if only 5% would come true in the near future (e.g. a camera - 48Mpx is also not must have). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
