Debug board for sale
I bought a debug board with my FR in Jan 2009. I think I took it out of the anti-static bag once and that's it. Other than that, it's been sitting there. I don't even remember booting it once. I've got too many other projects demanding too much attention to make use of it any time soon. Said projects are also demanding $$$, so I really don't want to donate it. I'd prefer to sell it locally here in the SF Bay Area, but would entertain other options if somebody really wanted it. You get: Debug board standoffs screwdriver USB mini B cable. in original box/packing. $85 OBO Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
I have complained quite a bit about the FR and UI/UE in the current distros, but I find myself missing my device and eagerly awaiting it's return from SDG w/ the buzz-fix added. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u
From: Staley, Daniel L dlst...@uky.edu Date: July 7, 2009 2:25:58 PM PDT To: community@lists.openmoko.org community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: [om2009] Canola with om2009-u Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org I recently got my freerunner back from SDG systems, complete with a buzz fix! So I'm attempting to start using it as my daily phone. I really like paroli and the work that is being done with om2009, and have been able to get most of the applications I want running just fine. Cool! How long did the whole process take ? I sent mine off yesterday so I'm curious about your recent experience. Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SMS Notification broken in Koolu beta 7
I've posted about this once before but didn't have much time to investigate until now. Tonight, though, I came across something that has me pretty sure that there's something broken in Koolu Beta 7 WRT how incoming SMSes are detected and notification is handled. In short, the symptom is that when running Koolu Beta 7, text messages sent to the FR seem to never arrive. They never get bounced back to the sender either, nor do they silently appear in my SMS inbox, they just sort of seem to disappear off into the ether. I have the Adafruit SIM reader and plugged the SIM from my FR into it. There were 9 text messages on the SIM from each of several different occasions over the past week or two when I've sent an SMS to the FR at random times. In each instance, it seems like the message never arrives, but apparently they have been received and stored on the SIM, but that isn't being picked up on by Android. So, some sort of notification/ event handling is broken in how Koolu notifies WRT incoming SMSes. I've looked around on a couple Android forums and there seems to be a few others having this problem but no immediate solution or workaround and there are others who say that they're not having this problem. I'm posting what I've found here to bump this topic up some and hopefully get it some more attention. I'm going to try to take a look at the source(s) this weekend and see if I can figure out what's going on, but was also hoping that somebody else might have seen this and know if there's a fix or workaround. Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Koolu Beta7 was: Some problems with Android on GTA02
Has anybody else had problems receiving SMS ? I flashed to Koolu Beta 7 the other day and can send w/ no problem but haven't received any text messages since I reflashed. Calls seem fine for me. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SF/CA BuzzFix Party (Was Re:US Buzz/GPS Fix)
From: Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to Date: April 22, 2009 12:51:19 PM PDT To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org +1 I'm also in California. If somebody threw a Buzz Fix party anywhere in California, I would be there. Isn't Openmoko in California too? Fremont Buzz Fix Party, anyone? I do have soldering experience, but not with such small parts. (In my day, everything was the size of a Buick.) But I'm game. I'm San Francisco and would also show up for a CA BuzzFix Party if somebody threw one. For the SF Bay Area, I would suggest a couple places, both in San Francisco: NoiseBridge, a hackerspace that focuses on both hardware and software hacks in The Mission. PariSoma, a co-working space in SOMA that is the the SF/North Bay OpenMoko reselller and where I bought my FR from :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Mar 18, 2009, at 04:28 , Chris Samuel wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year. That's getting on for 2 per head of population. That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer phone, etc. Hmmm...I wonder how much of that could be avoided by choosing something like 911 or 909 or (as stated on the TV show IT Crowd) 0118 999 881 999 119 7253 :) instead of 3 consecutive presses of the most exposed digit on the phone keypad. It's a lot harder to keypad mash those than just 000. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List of OpenMoko distributions
On Mar 17, 2009, at 07:40 , Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ron K. Jeffries rjeffr...@gmail.com wrote: Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? look on the wiki, the link is on the mainpage: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that date established or up in the air? yes: FSO + paroli seems to be what OM is going for Q3: if one orders a Freerunner today, what code does it ship with? not sure, but i think 2008.12 Actually, if you look at the Distributions link quoted above, the first sentence of Choosing a Distribution says: Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 Update, which is the second minor upgrade of Om 2008.8 (the version formerly named ASU). I can confirm that as of 1/31/09 (when I bought my GTA02 AKA FreeRunner AKA FR) this is still correct. I would expect a newly purchased FreeRunner to have either 2007.2 or 2008.12 depending on how quickly your vendor works through its backstock. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Mar 17, 2009, at 07:57 , arne anka wrote: Well it can go either way. Many costs are made when reacting to false calls and less resources are available for serious calls. well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. That would explain why I had such problems getting a SIM card during my recent trip to Europe. I knew it was some sort of overreaction like that. *sigh*. Your government learns too well from ours :) The one good thing that came out of the whole mess was that it pointed out that the majority of my SIM problems during the trip were political/bureaucratic and not due to an intrinsic problem with the FR. -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
On Mar 17, 2009, at 19:52 , Ron K. Jeffries wrote: The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 I would imagine that this is because, like many electronics products, the devices shipped from OM with what was the current firmware at the time, but has since been deprecated. It's difficult if not impossible to expect them to get their distributors to flash all the stock they have on their shelves to the latest version and then go back and do it again in 3 months when an even newer version is out. The distributor I bought my GTA02 from here in San Francisco is a neat little co-working space just a few blocks from my apartment. They have only a vague idea of what's in the box. Somebody knows somebody who's involved in the OM project and convinced them to become a stockist. So I had no problem paying them and getting the device from them, but they're a bunch of web designers and marketing people and it's just silly to expect them to know how to flash an embedded Linux device. My plans for the first evening i had it were to do the unboxing and then flash it to the latest firmware. Believe it or not, but this is actually a good problem to have because it indicates that OpenMoko is shipping in volume through a distributor network rather than just handfuls of systems from their own factory. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team
On Mar 13, 2009, at 22:04 , Jeremy McNaughton wrote: [...] And while I don't know anything about the previous conversations between Mirko and Paul, I really hope that I never get dealt with that way by anyone with an openmoko.com email account. Nobody's perfect and I don't want to single Mirko out, but the conversation in the above IRC logs are less than stellar. I would take some of that as possibly a language issue more than outright rudeness or lack of social skills, esp. when working on a project that involves people from many different countries for whom this might be a second or third language. It's easy to miss or not know subtleties of social cues or polite forms if you're not a native speaker/writer. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
errors using mdbus commands
I'm having some problems with getting dbus GSM commands working from the command-line: r...@om-gta02: # mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/ freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device .GetInfo /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetInfo failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply r...@om-gta02: # mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/ freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.Ge tNetworkStatus /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetNetworkStatus failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply r...@om-gta02: # I'm running FSO 5: root§om-gta02:ß# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc2 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 25 16:01:57 CET 2009 armv4tl unknown root§om-gta02:ß# From reading the mailing list archives and the Wiki, it's not entirely clear to me if this is an invocation error on my part or an actual bug. Do I have to allocate the GSM resource via org.freesmartphone.ousaged first ? It seems like I should be able to do a GSM.Device.GetInfo from the command-line based on what I've read so far. Have any of the object pathnames changed between FSO 3 and 5 ? The examples on the Wiki say they're for FSO 3. Any thoughts/help/thwacks on the head would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Mar 13, 2009, at 04:21 , Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. This is certainly true. I've dithered back and forth between having FSO 5 and OM 2008.x in its various incantations flashed on my FR while having either Qtopia or Android loaded on the uSD. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner, most used distributions
On Mar 13, 2009, at 04:21 , Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi, From that table I came up with two conclusions: - There is a large number of FreeRunners running Om 2008.X - Apparently it'snot too dificult to have a couple distributions installed and choose one of them each time you reboot the phone. This is certainly true. I've dithered back and forth between having FSO 5 and OM 2008.x in its various incantations flashed on my FR while having either Qtopia or Android loaded on the uSD. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Mar 9, 2009, at 00:44 , Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: rootfs is a standard FSO-console MS5 patched to fix doesn't boot on r/o mounted fs issue. Kernel is recent Andy tracking with GSM sysfs node patch created originally by PaulFerster based on my suggestions. then, thank you to all of those people. MOKO11 was a corporate work involving quite a number of people on IRC, mainly PaulFerster, Werner, Lindi (iirc), and me. Dieter checked for the bugs we spotted and fixed them in calypso's FW. that's interesting, i hadn't realised that any people in openmoko had access to the calypso firmware source; i thought the project was still dependent on TI fixing bugs as the community found them. good to hear this is not so, and thanks to those above who are improving it! The uSD image was entirely created, tested and published by me. Original idea: roh. then thanks to the both of you, too. one of my showing-off points for the 'moko is the way that custom distributions can be created to do specific, complex tasks; this is a perfect example. and to paul fertser: i happily concede that it's perfectly possible to do the firmware upgrade using the very precise and helpful instructions on the wiki, and thanks for reminding people that this works fine. the attraction of the SD-based method to me was that neither the tools (nor any dependencies they may drag in during the install) have to live on my 'moko in normal operation, with their attendant (though doubtless small) risk of destabilising it; i run the phone environment when it's a phone, and the upgrading environment when it's upgrading the firmware, and ne'er the twain shall meet. I would like to add to this that, while it's not desirable to have the tools and SD image on your phone, it is possible. When I found out about the SD-based method, I was surrounded by Macs and my nearest Linux system with an SD-card reader was either in my pocket or 7K miles back home :) So I cleaned out some stuff on my GTA02 and was able to download the SD image onto it and dd that onto the uSD in my FR and reboot. The flashing procedure was successful and now all my SIMs work. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Mar 5, 2009, at 19:26 , Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Do 5. März 2009 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: | | Alternatively, try Joerg's uSD automated image: | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash- moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz | | It works and reliably flashes the firmware for you. This actually did it for me. I gave up on doing it by hand last week and just went out and got a SIM for Wind, it was just quicker. When I saw this message though, I thought I should give it one more try. It works. The Vodaphone SIM that was giving me so much trouble now registers properly in Zhone and Qtopia. FFR, the flash-moko11_uSD-image file just barely fits onto the main flash of the FR so you can dd it from there onto your uSD. Thanks for all your help, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where is urlparse ?
I'm working on porting a python app that uses simplejson and having some module problems. I have Python 2.6 installed on my Linux server and OS X laptop and with both of them the urlparse module comes with the base Python install. It appears to be missing in the opkg python 2.6 package though. Did this get separated out into it's own opkg or stripped out entirely ? It seems kind of odd that it would just be completely removed. It's a pretty important module to have around if you don't want to have to write your own URI/URL decoding library. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as wireless mouse
On Feb 27, 2009, at 15:43 , The Digital Pioneer wrote: OK, so it's been on the wiki for a while now, to use the FR and accelerometers as a wireless mouse. I even bought a bluetooth USB adapter so I could use it as such, since I was under the impression it was already done in Remoko. It's not, all I got was a wireless touchpad. I already HAVE a touchpad on my laptop, thank you. :P So is anyone ever going to do this? I elect you ! :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:46 , Pander wrote: Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn Trash Thompson wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick Moko escribió: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Resistive vs http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Capacitive Thanks; But: Do we really want a GTA03 which can't be managed with a stylus pen? I can't imagine a 'Terminal' like keyboard (i.e. one having all keys like the actual Om2008.9 'Terminal', including Shift, SHift-Lock, ...) and using it with my finger tips; how should this work? Where this idea, GTA03 with Capacitive, comes from? :-(( matthias Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the iPhone screen and was very unimpressed with the GTA02's touchscreen in comparison. I have to agree here. Styli are more a hindrance than a help. I find I'm always leaving my stylus or retracted pen somewhere and looking for another. A stylus wouldn't be such a problem if there was a place in the device to store it. General users haven't had to use a stylus in years. The UI for most phones has been either a keypad or finger for a while now. If the GTA03 is going to use a stylus, is it possible to have the shell molded with a holder built-in ? Its fun using all sorts of things as a precision stylus for terminal keyboard. Zipper of my jacket, plastic coffee stir thingy, etc. I'm even thinking of mounting something on my gloves to use the device in winter outside. Years ago, during the Palm era, there was a company that sold a little stylus that you put on your finger like a ring and there was a point at the end to tap on the screen with. Somebody probably still make this. I actually prefer to use a proper stylus since zipper pulls and such risk scratching the screen. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote: [...] Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but only with stylus Hmmmit seems as if the problem with the default is that it doesn't know UNIX keywords. Is it possible to populate the dictionary with UNIX keywords. Who decided that the predictive keyboard would be the default ? Or alternatively, how do you set the Terminal keyboard to be the default ? Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] no USB networking (with Windows)?
On Feb 26, 2009, at 19:03 , Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi folks. First off, a BIG THANKS to the SHR team; this is the best distro I tried for GTA02 in a long while. :) Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!) and I'm using the phone in everyday life, but now I can't login via SSH on my windows box. Does SHR use dbus ? Your USB net might have been turned off by default as a power saving measure. This happened when I upgraded to the latest FSO unstable the other day and the AR6000 was turned off by default. Having read some of the discussion on Trac, this made sense in the end but it still took me a few minutes to figure out. ---Steve This works just fine if I reboot into the Hackable:1 distro on the card and also worked fine with the OM2008.12/testing distro previously on flash. The g_ether module is loaded and the usb0 interface is UP and configured with the correct IP... but the Windows box just doesn't connect anymore. I don't have a Linux box here, I'll have to try much later on. Hints, anyone? Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn Trash Thompson wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick Moko escribió: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Resistive vs http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Capacitive Thanks; But: Do we really want a GTA03 which can't be managed with a stylus pen? I can't imagine a 'Terminal' like keyboard (i.e. one having all keys like the actual Om2008.9 'Terminal', including Shift, SHift-Lock, ...) and using it with my finger tips; how should this work? Where this idea, GTA03 with Capacitive, comes from? :-(( matthias Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the iPhone screen and was very unimpressed with the GTA02's touchscreen in comparison. I have to agree here. Styli are more a hindrance than a help. I find I'm always leaving my stylus or retracted pen somewhere and looking for another. A stylus wouldn't be such a problem if there was a place in the device to store it. General users haven't had to use a stylus in years. The UI for most phones has been either a keypad or finger for a while now. If the GTA03 is going to use a stylus, is it possible to have the shell molded with a holder built-in ? Steve Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Android) Uboot
On Feb 24, 2009, at 09:25 , azmodie wrote: 1. The easiest way: Just flash the qi-bootloader into the NAND-memory of your phone (the u-boot-bootloader will still be on the phone(NOR-flash)): dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master_a2d11c4dd18c9517.udfu Just to add an additional data point, you'll need to flash Qi into NAND in order to use the beta3 or later Android releases. I did it using the OS X OpenMoko Flasher utility and didn't have any problems. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Feb 23, 2009, at 04:48 , community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?) (Paul Fertser) 2. Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? (Paul Fertser) 3. Re: Voicenote - new software (Francesco de Virgilio) 4. Re: [SHR Unstable + Qi]: WSOD (Andy Green) 5. Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets? (Andy Green) 6. [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements (Joel Newkirk) 7. Re: [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements (Denis Johnson) 8. opkg problem (Adam Jimerson) From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Date: February 23, 2009 1:48:56 AM GMT+01:00 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?) Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes: From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at least. I haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the state file and in the driver though. I'm going to prepare a routing diagram with alsa control names printed over it real soon (today/tomorrow), as i'm already familiar with the driver code, so it's just work to be done. Man, it was tough: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels All alsa control names that affect routing are now printed over the diagram. I can provide Inkscape source file on demand. The controls that are not mentioned either affect ADC/DAC in various not routing-related ways (and to use them one most probably needs to look at the datasheet anyway) or affect power management in freerunner-specific way (and therefore their names are self- explanatory). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes: it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem That's a lie. You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. Okay, I am pretty stuck here. I've tried the procedure on the Wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing and here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012 to no effect. I run the fluid command and it just sits there at: Bootloader: (reset target) In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on to no effect. I thought I might have downloaded the firmware in the wrong format (ASCII instead of binary), so I ran file and got : gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko11-beta1.m0: Motorola S-Record; binary data in text format So I'm stuck. I don't think I bricked the GSM modem because it doesn't seem like I've uploaded anything to it. Further thoughts or suggestions are most welcome. Any further update on getting this FW into an image ? Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:01 , Paul Fertser wrote: Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes: Okay, I am pretty stuck here. I've tried the procedure on the Wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing and here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012 to no effect. I run the fluid command and it just sits there at: Bootloader: (reset target) In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on to no effect. I estimate the probability of this not working for the first time as 0.1. So, after the second try it will most certainly work. Are you sure nothing is accessing your modem at that time? Use lsof to check. Also, it's possible that your kernel version has power_on sysfs node in another place, make sure the node actually exists there. I'm using the fso-console image recommended in the GSM Flashing wiki page. downloaded from here: http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/openmoko-fso-console-image- glibc-ipk--20081028-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/uImage-2.6.24+r10+gitr75999 +54524f4531c8b262431b794fea610d81bb351c86-r10-om-gta02.bin The /sys/bus/platform entry is a symbolic link to /sys/devices/ platform and contains: r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# pwd /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0 r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# ls -l -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 download lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 driver - ../../../bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gsm -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 flowcontrolled -r--r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 modalias drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 power -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 power_on -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 reset lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 subsystem - ../../../bus/platform -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:04 uevent r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# So it looks like the power_on node is there. The default value at boot of the power_on node is 0. I'll try writing to it directly rather than going through the link, although I don't know why that would make any difference. lsof reveals nothing interesting. I ran the gsm0710muxd start script and it shows that the gsm daemon isn't running: r...@om-gta02:/# /etc/init.d/gsm0710muxd stop no process in pidfile '/var/run/gsm0710muxd.pid' found; none killed r...@om-gta02:/# What you're saying makes sense, i.e. that something is using the GSM modem, but it does look it's shut off. Thanks for your help, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
So fluid is still not flashing the image, but I noticed the following messages on the console after my latest attempt: The error message: rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c shows up in dmesg after I send the command: echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 Looking back through dmesg, this seems to be a pretty consistent error message: modem wakeup interruptresult of echo 1 / sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on rxerr: port ch=0x88, rxs=0x0004 ---result of echo a...@poff / dev/ttySAC0 rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c rxerr: port ch=0x14, rxs=0x0004 rxerr: port ch=0x61, rxs=0x0004 rxerr: port ch=0x12, rxs=0x0004 This happens consistently as a result of the following command sequence: r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# This is referenced in this bug report: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2180 So it looks like my attempt to apply the fix for this bug may be getting stomped on by the bug itself :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)
From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes: it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem That's a lie. You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. Thanks Paul, I'm trying to flash my GSM firmware and running into a problem. I get to the point where I run the fluid command line and it just sits there. Here are the steps I'm taking for doing the flashing. I'm following the docs on the wiki at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing. After I get the Bootloader: (reset target) message, I run s3c24xx-gpio b7=1 in another xterm, ssh'ed into the FR. and the main window just sits there. Here's the output of what I'm typing in the main window: r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h fluid.exe \ -oO -b 115200\ -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0- moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h fluid.exe -oo -b 57600 -f /home/root/gsm_ ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) Help ? How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the s3c24xx- gpio b7=1 command ? The documentation makes it sound like it should happen right away. Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Recommended SIM for Italy ?
Greetings OM-heads, I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here with me from the US. I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but works in just every other phone I've put it in. Can anybody recommend a Euro SIM/carrier that is known to work in a GTA02, preferably if you know it works in Italy. Could this be an OS/distro problem? I'm running OM-2008-12 with Konfigurator. Are there any command-line utilities I can use to get diagnostics or info on the SIM itself ? The GUI simply says SIM missing or Not registered with no further details. Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On Feb 22, 2009, at 17:21 , Michele Renda wrote: On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote: I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried was when I bought my Freerunner back in august). Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone Italy. Maybe you have a 64K... I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3 This is precisely what I have. It is a 64K SIM, bought from a Vodafone shop in Trieste. I installed it yesterday, it asked for me to enter the PIN, which I did, but ever since then I simply get the single star for the GSM signal strength(I'm running Illume) and when I go to the Dialer to make a call, I get a SIM missing error(even though it's installed and locked into it's carrier). I put it into a friend's Nokia N95 and it works fine. I put his ATT SIM into my FR and it picked up the Wind network. I also tried the Vodafone 64K SIM in a ZTE 125 and it registered with a Slovenian Voda tower (some interesting multipath going on there) and was able to make calls/texts. So I'm thinking it has to be something with my FR. I've been using it for almost a month now with a T-Mobile SIM and this is the first time I've had a problem. I'll look at the GSM firmware flashing article on the Wiki. I think I'm going to go get another SIM, like a Wind or TIM and see if that works. Thanks Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
On Feb 22, 2009, at 16:36 , Michele Renda wrote: On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: Greetings OM-heads, I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here with me from the US. I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but works in just every other phone I've put it in. I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware. It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old. Well, it's certainly brand new as I just bought it from the shop yesterday. I don't know when it was made though. The card that the SIM and PIN scratcher are on has the markings: SIM 64K 14.51 Verona1 I hope that helps, Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Screen
On Feb 16, 2009, at 03:00 , community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Broken Screen (Michele Renda) 2. Re: [FSO milestone 5] No wifi ? (HouYu Li) 3. Re: [FSO milestone 5] No wifi ? (steve) 4. Re: Broken Screen (Filip Onkelinx) 5. [2008.x] Locale packages depend on virtual-locale packages that don't exist in any language (Risto H. Kurppa) 6. Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Paul Fertser) 7. Re: [2008.x] Locale packages depend on virtual-locale packages that don't exist in any language (Denis Shulyaka) From: Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com Date: February 16, 2009 1:08:15 AM PST To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Broken Screen Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org On 16/02/2009 09:59, Sargun Dhillon wrote: 1. If it's possible to just puchase a new screen if not then Have a look on ebay. Yesterday night I saw there was some peoples selling a replacement screen for FR. I don't know how much good are them, but I think you can solve in a simple way. Do you know if these would also work for the debug board ? I've been wanting to get a screen for that, but haven't had the time to look around. The silkscreen on my debug board says it's a 1973 model, not a GTA02. Did the pinouts/display controller change between the 1973 and GTA02 ? Thanks, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Running Kustomizer (was Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Margo Koppelmann))
On Feb 11, 2009, at 00:19 , community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Euphony Beta 1 release (Thomas Gst?dtner) 2. Re: Openmoko Autobuilder (Rod Whitby) 3. Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing (Joel Newkirk) 4. Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj (Guillaume Chereau) 5. Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out (Risto H. Kurppa) 6. Re: opkg-deb (kimaidou) 7. Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Margo Koppelmann) 8. Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj (Arigead) 9. Neo FreeRunner on FLOSS Manuals (William Lai) From: Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com Date: February 11, 2009 12:09:35 AM PST To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org [...] If you want to use Freerunner with OM2008.12 as a usable phone and music player and internet device and gps device then there's so many things you have to install and configure before it's usable. It took me a lot of time to get everything installed and configured (and there's still some things to do). But now there's the Kustomizer ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ), maybe this can make life a little easier. I ran Kustomizer last night following the Wiki docs and it took a while, but it worked and I was happy to see an updater/package installer run to completion w/ out crashing for once. Sorry to be such a cynic, I know people work hard to make things nicer for us in the OpenMoko community. I guess I've been burned a lot on packaging dependancies and prereqs on Linux in general over the years so my first thought when trying something like that is to wonder how something is going to break. Fortunately, I was not disappointed. I've had my FR for about 2 weeks now and I really think it does take some time of modding and hacking on it to get it to not just be usable, but usable how you want. That, IMHO, is why you're buying an FR rather than what the carrier shops have for sale. My current setup on my FR is with a Kustomized Om 2008-12 flashed into NVRAM and Qtopia on microSD. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:[android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them?
From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com Date: February 11, 2009 5:58:50 AM PST To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: [android] how to open diferent apps an navigate though them? Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org I'm testing the lastest koolu image of android and is quite impresive, but in order to make some screen captures I have to run two apps at time Superuser and Screenshot... but in the keyboard Home button don't seems to work, and Back button close the application... or how to launch an apk installed app from the adb shell might be usefull too Hi David, What bootloader are you using ? Are you using Qi ? I tried the Koolu beta 3 last night and couldn't get it to boot. It sat there for about 10 minutes at a blank screen before I gave up and went back to OM2008-12. It was getting late, I needed a functional FR and I figured I would play with it more this weekend. ---Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About the buzz
From: Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch Date: January 31, 2009 10:53:52 AM PST To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: About the buzz Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Le Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:00 -0200, Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com a écrit : Community, There is something I do not understand about the buzz. I have 2 chips one for my old carrier and one for my new carrier, they are respectively Claro Uruguay and Antel. With the Claro chip the other person does not listens to the annoying buzz but with the Ancel chip she does. Why could that be? I have a US version of the neo, Claro is supposed to work on 1900 and Antel in 1800. Would that make the difference??? Perhaps where the GSM relay is (near or far away). Maybe if the signal is not good, your freerunner need more output power, and you have the buzz thing. I had a friend report that he heard the buzz last night when I was calling him. Rotating my FR as I held it against my ear so that it wasn't pointing down so much and was more horizontally oriented made it go away. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I took the plunge
From: Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com Date: January 31, 2009 6:45:03 AM PST To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: I took the plunge Reply-To: s...@openmoko.com, List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org On 1/31/09 Stroller wrote: On 31 Jan 2009, at 07:30, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: I picked up a Neo Freerunner dev board today from the good folks over @ PariSOMA here in SF today. It was a little disappointing that the dev board came in a recyclable paperboard box instead of the hardsided case. Do they just not ship those anymore ? No. Openmoko decided that the case didn't add value in a way that was unique to Openmoko or central to their core competencies. What it pretty much came down to was the price (most importantly payment terms) and shipping were extremely high. Combined with the fact that we added the NOR chip. Made us decided to create only one product this time around. That's understandable. That aside, the packaging is still quite well done and gives the FR much more of the feel of something that's been productized and much less a one-off. At this point I've had it for a week and it basically is what I expected it to be. It's a Linux device that can be a phone and still has some rough edges. I'm currently running FDOM 200809_20081023 as a rootfs and Om2008.9 for GTA02 as a kernel. Thanks a lot for buying a FreeRunner, BTW! NP. Thanks for making it :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
