My Freerunner for sale...

2010-04-18 Thread lists
Hello there:
Selling my 7-8 months old Freerunner, with box, accessories and the screen 
protectors I bought for it.
I am unsubscribing from the list, so please answer to kitepil0t _At_ 
kitepil0t D0T c0m and change the '0' for 'o' 

I am in the corner of Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee, if you want to take a 
look, and I have no use for it, so please make an offer.
Thanks
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[Every distribution I've tried] How do I delete messages in bulk?

2009-07-26 Thread lists
Hello Intelligence... 

Is there a GUI tool to delete messages in bulk?
Is there a way to do it with a shell script? 

The problem:
I get way too many (most times useless) messages...
The only way I've found is to delete one at a time.
When deleting 125 messages, it gets old pretty quick...   :( 

Could I do something like:
rm `find /path/to/msgs -type f -exec grep -li from my network {} \;` 

Can this be done in the GUI?
I guess that's an improvement I could write...   :)
Thanks!
ET 

PS: Back with SHR, seems to be working better now.
I installed:
0b76c9d620a36ea8a11ce510bc9e19f1  shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2
162ff7e58c7943a9d28cad9b6fb6bf3d  uImage-GTA02.bin.bin
 -rw-r--r-- 1  113508352 2009-07-21 07:16 shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2
 -rw-r--r-- 11832584 2009-07-08 16:21 uImage-GTA02.bin.bin
Can anybody verify (or explain me how to verify) that those are the ones I 
want?
What about the criteria to choose one over another?   :)

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Where are the archives of the list?

2009-07-26 Thread lists
I realize that many of my answers can be dug out from old messages, but I 
haven't been able to find a link like:
Type something here and search ALL messages
Is there one?
I hate being a pest...   :(
Thanks
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[Openwrt] how do I update it ?

2009-07-25 Thread lists
Hello out there... 

Finally Openwrt seems to be doing the job a need, a working phone, a working 
messaging system and a working Xterm. 

I need to get the headset and the bluetooth working, which leads me to the 
question: 

How do I update Openwrt ?
Is there a dpkg (or opkg)
What's the normal procedure to install new software on a Openwrt Freerunner?
Thanks!
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Re: This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-24 Thread lists
I can relate to this one...
I was tasked to port this UNIX application from CORBA to Axis2C and I was 
handed out a (WHAT?!) Window$ XP laptop... 

I dual booted the Laptop (to have a fall back resource) and installed 
Kubuntu.  I slapped a virtual XP on top to do the windoze thing (Outlook ans 
stuff like that).  Then I created a Samba share that was pointed to an sshfs 
mounted to the UNIX machine so I could browse the source directly from the 
XP machine without scaring anyone. 

For work at home days, I would fire the virtual M$, connect to the VPN and 
login into the UNIX machine.  Then I would set a reverse tunnel to my server 
and then a reverse tunnel to the laptop. 

I had scripts that detected the environment and mounted the filesystem 
appropriately.
Pretty geeky...   :)
ET 

PS: Gave up SHR.
Now I am OpenWRT(ing)
Hope it works... 

 

Brolin Empey writes: 

 2009/7/22 li...@kitepilot.com 
 
 So I do: 

 kitepi...@beechjet:~$ ssh -fCX r...@192.168.0.202 /usr/bin/midori 

 And I have the browser running in my desktop monitor.
 Only *TRUE* geeks can appreciate that!   ;-) 

 
 That reminds me of when I used my dad’s Eee PC (701?  The original model,
 with 4 GB of NAND flash memory) to use OpenSSH’s X11 forwarding to run Quake
 III: Arena (Q3A) on my desktop PC running Gentoo Linux (I have since
 switched to Ubuntu because Gentoo was far more hassle than it was worth) and
 display and control Q3A from the Eee PC, which was on the second floor of my
 house and wirelessly connected to the Internet gateway, which has a wired
 Ethernet connection to my desktop PC on the ground floor! :D 
 
 I can also do pointless but amusing things like ssh to k7t266 (my Ubuntu PC
 at home) from my cannon (my Ubuntu PC at work), then use the Hamachi VPN
 client to connect to my employer’s Hamachi network, ssh to Repository (our
 Debian Linux file server at work), then finally ssh back to cannon. :D 
 
 Of course, if you have to ask why, you are not part of the intended
 audience! :)

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OpenWrt ROCKS!!! :) So far... :| (And question about headset volume)

2009-07-24 Thread lists
Well, with OpenWrt I can finally place and receive calls and messages.
And the phone responds to the screen when I get a call after it goes to 
sleep. 

IT WORKS!!!   8) 

However, the volume in the wire headseat is VERY low and I have no idea 
about the bluetooth. 

Does anybody knows how to make work either?
Prefer the wire...
THANKS!!!
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Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Good morning Universe after the eclipse... 

Short background:
I finally flashed my GSM with (something)11 and installed Parolli on my 
phone.
Didn't like it (or couldn't figure it out) and re-flashed it with SHR.
WY easier to deal with than the QT thing it came with, and better 
conversation quality (both ways) 

Still learning... 

So I started the browser.
Browser comes with warning running as root
WTF?!?!?!
Kill browser... 

Now the question:
I want to create a user to run the browser with (easy),
and then configure the icon to run the browser using that user (no clue)
Anyone?
Thanks!   :)
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Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
 su $username -c /program/binary
This one I know.
The *REAL* trick (my question) is which /program/binary and which file 
holds the icon information in the GUI so I can modify it.
Thanks!  :)
ET 


Marcel writes: 

 Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009 13:53:34 schrieb li...@kitepilot.com:
 Now the question:
 I want to create a user to run the browser with (easy),
 and then configure the icon to run the browser using that user (no
 clue) Anyone?
 Thanks!   :)
 ET
 
 Hey, 
 
 su $username -c /program/binary
 does the job, basically. Just that su requires you to enter a password on 
 the command line. I don't know about another way though... 
 
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This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-22 Thread lists
So I do: 

kitepi...@beechjet:~$ ssh -fCX r...@192.168.0.202 /usr/bin/midori 

And I have the browser running in my desktop monitor.
Only *TRUE* geeks can appreciate that!   ;-)
ET 

PS: Never mind the potential to control the device and squeeze 
functionality.
I certainly, starting difficulties and all, don't regret my decision to 
ditch the Iphone in favor of the Freerunner.
And I am just getting started!8)

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(FIXED) Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
I did:
adduser kitepilot
sed -e 's/Exec=midori %u/Exec=su kitepilot -c midori %u/g' \
  /usr/share/applications/midori.desktop  \
  /usr/share/applications/kmidori.desktop
mv /usr/share/applications/midori.desktop /root 

:) 

How could I do anything before without the Internet...
ET 

 

li...@kitepilot.com writes: 

 Good morning Universe after the eclipse...  
 
 Short background:
 I finally flashed my GSM with (something)11 and installed Parolli on my 
 phone.
 Didn't like it (or couldn't figure it out) and re-flashed it with SHR.
 WY easier to deal with than the QT thing it came with, and better 
 conversation quality (both ways)  
 
 Still learning...  
 
 So I started the browser.
 Browser comes with warning running as root
 WTF?!?!?!
 Kill browser...  
 
 Now the question:
 I want to create a user to run the browser with (easy),
 and then configure the icon to run the browser using that user (no clue)
 Anyone?
 Thanks!   :)
 ET 
 
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My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Help... 

After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls 
because the screen ignores my attempts to get a call.
Or a text message... 

In the worst instance, there was just a tiny lit up line on the screen and I 
had to pull the battery. 

The device seems to be responsive, because it changes from page to landscape 
when I roll it, but it still ignores the touch... 

Is this normal?
Has anybody experienced it?
Is there a fix?:(
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PS: Also, is there some sort of screen protector?
I still have on the plastic it came with, but I an see it won't last a whole 
lot..

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[SHR] Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Man, ignorance hurts...
I have the SHR I downloaded from the wiki, supposedly the latest one.
Thanks for the help!
ET 

 

li...@kitepilot.com writes: 

 Help...  
 
 After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls 
 because the screen ignores my attempts to get a call.
 Or a text message...  
 
 In the worst instance, there was just a tiny lit up line on the screen and I 
 had to pull the battery.  
 
 The device seems to be responsive, because it changes from page to landscape 
 when I roll it, but it still ignores the touch...  
 
 Is this normal?
 Has anybody experienced it?
 Is there a fix?:(
 ET  
 
 PS: Also, is there some sort of screen protector?
 I still have on the plastic it came with, but I an see it won't last a whole 
 lot.. 
 
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Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
 is it suspending or crashing.
Don't know...
Sometimes I think either or both... 

do you have the battery fully charged?
I drains *VERY* fast...   :(
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jeremy jozwik writes: 

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 Man, ignorance hurts...
 I have the SHR I downloaded from the wiki, supposedly the latest one.
 Thanks for the help!
 ET
 
 is it suspending or crashing. do you have the battery fully charged? 
 
 dont worry. the next few weeks you will begin to think why oh why did
 i buy this awful device. but it will pass :) 
 
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Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
 what are you doing when it happens?
Nothing...
The telephone rings and it is impossible to pick up the call or do anything 
afterwards.
Or I just pick it up and is totally unresponsive.
Oblivious to CPR...
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jeremy jozwik writes: 

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:24 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 Don't know...
 Sometimes I think either or both...
 
 what are you doing when it happens? 
 
 I drains *VERY* fast...   :(
 ET
 
 screen brightness, idle timeouts, suspend and turning off radios and
 modems that you are not using helps with this 
 
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Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-19 Thread lists
Can I just ext3 the SD card ?
I'm not very fond of FAT... 

Also, as of:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
It says:
WARNING: Booting from SDHC may cause problems at this time (see below). 

Should I even try to boot from the SD card?
Are there outstanding issues that I should know of? 

How small of a card is too small?
Will 2GB be usable/enough or should I plan on something bigger/smaller? 

Finally, should I Om 2009 or SHR ? 

Thanks!
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PS: This flashing thing ain't easy...
For dumb people like me anyway...   :(

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I need a cookbook. Pleeeease...

2009-07-18 Thread lists
Hello community:
As the I love/I hate Openmoko thread unfold, I want voice my opinion:
I don't know. 

I don't know because my phone came with some QT stuff that I haven't been 
able to figure out and seems to not be discussed in this list. 

So I've made a decided decision!
But I need help... 

Obvious help...
This may seem abusive because I know that this information is out there, but 
I faced the choice to get an Iphone that will just work (sort of anyway) 
or get the device I *KNOW* I need, and I don't regret my decision, but I 
just don't have the time now to devote to this toy.
I *REALLY* need a working tool... 

I am unbelievable tied up in other projects and my new phone has been 
sitting for 2 weeks on my desk...   :( 

Done with the apology, I hope someone here can provide me a simple cookbook 
to change this QT thing to the latest Openmoko.
Something like: 

1.- Go to (http://...) and connect the phone to your computer (I have this 
one).
2.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest GSM (Maybe?)
3.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... 1
N.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... n
END .- Reboot the thing and SCREAM!!! 

Any help will be appreciated.
If you feel a compelling need to insulting me for asking for obvious help, 
please feel free to ignore thos message and save the list another useless 
flame war.
THANKS!!!
Enrique 

PS: But I *LOVE* the little I've seen...   :)

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GOT MY PHONE!!! :) Doesn't work... :(

2009-07-09 Thread lists
My new phone doesn't see my ATT SIM card...
The card is OLD.
As in 5 years OLD (or more).
So old, that it broke the Treo when I pulled it out... (screw the Treo) 

I've done some reading about the SIM stuff.
I'm dizzy already, I don't understand none of that stuff... 

Can anybody give a quick and dirty answer about what to do next?
Thanks!
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Re: GOT MY PHONE!!! :) Doesn't work... :(

2009-07-09 Thread lists
Just got the phone...
The Sdg guy asked me what system I wanted and I told him to install the most 
likely to work out of the box...
It has some sort QT stuff running. 

Don't know too much else...
Zzz...
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Robin Paulson writes: 

 2009/7/10  li...@kitepilot.com:
 My new phone doesn't see my ATT SIM card...
 The card is OLD.
 As in 5 years OLD (or more).
 So old, that it broke the Treo when I pulled it out... (screw the Treo) 

 I've done some reading about the SIM stuff.
 I'm dizzy already, I don't understand none of that stuff... 

 Can anybody give a quick and dirty answer about what to do next?
 Thanks!
 
 depending on how money-grabbing your provider is, you may or may not
 be able to get a new sim for free (mine was $30) 
 
 failing that, have you got the newest gsm firmware? that fixes several
 gsm-related bugs. there's a page on the wiki with simple instructions
 on how to fix it - thsi is to be recommended regardless of a new sim
 or not 
 
 which distro are you using? the newer distros based upon fso might be
 more helpful - have you tried om2009/shr yet? 
 
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Re: GOT MY PHONE!!! :) Doesn't work... :(

2009-07-09 Thread lists
OK, this is part of the problem (I think)
My sim card is:
63513G   300164k smartchip   does not respond to at+cimi 

Which is listed as:
SIM cards that don't work with original gsm firmware 

Now, I read it somewhere, but how do I open an SSH session into this thing 
so I can follow those steps?
How do I get a keyboard on the screen?
Thanks!
ET 

 

li...@kitepilot.com writes: 

 Just got the phone...
 The Sdg guy asked me what system I wanted and I told him to install the most 
 likely to work out of the box...
 It has some sort QT stuff running.  
 
 Don't know too much else...
 Zzz...
 ET  
 
   
 
 
 Robin Paulson writes:  
 
 2009/7/10  li...@kitepilot.com:
 My new phone doesn't see my ATT SIM card...
 The card is OLD.
 As in 5 years OLD (or more).
 So old, that it broke the Treo when I pulled it out... (screw the Treo)  

 I've done some reading about the SIM stuff.
 I'm dizzy already, I don't understand none of that stuff...  

 Can anybody give a quick and dirty answer about what to do next?
 Thanks!
 
 depending on how money-grabbing your provider is, you may or may not
 be able to get a new sim for free (mine was $30)  
 
 failing that, have you got the newest gsm firmware? that fixes several
 gsm-related bugs. there's a page on the wiki with simple instructions
 on how to fix it - thsi is to be recommended regardless of a new sim
 or not  
 
 which distro are you using? the newer distros based upon fso might be
 more helpful - have you tried om2009/shr yet?  
 
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Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?

2009-07-07 Thread lists
Yep...
Hello there... 

Apologies if I am beating the dead horse.
No pun intended...   :) 

I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have 
the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. 

Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:( 

My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: 

If Freerunner dead then
do I have an alternative
else
if Freerunner usable then
case OS:
Openmoko: Good? ;;
Android: Good? ;;
default: What? ;;
esac
else
do I have an alternative
fi
fi 

I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day 
wild imagination?
My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really 
there? 

I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to 
place/receive calls ans SSH into my network.
Thanks!
Enrique A. Troconis

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Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?

2009-07-07 Thread lists
THANKS!   :)
I did read it:
It says the the successor of the the Freerunner is canceled, but what about 
the Freerunner itself?
Is it still in production?
If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day 
basis?
Under what system?
Will it talk to the ATT's US network?
What do I tell them? 

The Developers only ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not just 
work.
Or does it?
If I can reliable place and receive calls, attach a REAL keyboard to it, and 
open an SSH shell to my server, I want one!   :)
Again, thanks!
Enrique 

 


Sean Moss-Pultz writes: 

 
 Hi Enrique 
 
 Welcome. 
 
 We're still around. See my announce post last month. 
 
-sean
   
 
 --Original Message--
 From: li...@kitepilot.com
 Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28
 Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? 
 
 Yep...
 Hello there...  
 
 Apologies if I am beating the dead horse.
 No pun intended...   :)  
 
 I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have 
 the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network.  
 
 Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:(  
 
 My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows:  
 
 If Freerunner dead then
 do I have an alternative
 else
 if Freerunner usable then
 case OS:
 Openmoko: Good? ;;
 Android: Good? ;;
 default: What? ;;
 esac
 else
 do I have an alternative
 fi
 fi  
 
 I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day 
 wild imagination?
 My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really 
 there?  
 
 I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to 
 place/receive calls ans SSH into my network.
 Thanks!
 Enrique A. Troconis 
 
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Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?

2009-07-07 Thread lists
Thanks!   :) 

In the statement:
 Openmoko:Good? 80%
 Android:Good? 60%
 default:SHR :)

Is the: I can reliable communicate using this phone part inside the 80-60% 
or inside the 20-40%?
Where does the I can attach a REAL keyboard and open an SSH shell 
statement fit? 

And finally:
 default:SHR :)
What does SHR mean?
Will it be better or worse than (fill in the blanks)
Or, in other words:
Which OS deliveries the most reliability on the phone so far?
Which OS deliveries the most freedom? 

Again, thanks!
I'm liking the Freerunner way better then the Iphone already...   :)
Enrique 

PS: David, yo visite una pagina WEB en Espa#ol tuya.
Creo... 

 


David Reyes Samblas Martinez writes: 

 mmm , I was missing those OM is dead post this month
 Just kidding
 Welcome to the party 
 
 aswering your nested if 
 
 Freerunner dead=False
 Freerunner usable=True
 Openmoko:Good? 80%
 Android:Good? 60%
 default:SHR :) 
 
 If Freerunner dead then
do I have an alternative
 else
if Freerunner usable then
case OS:
Openmoko: Good? ;;
Android: Good? ;;
default: What? ;;
esac
else
do I have an alternative
fi
 fi 
 
 2009/7/7 Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com:

 Hi Enrique 

 Welcome. 

 We're still around. See my announce post last month. 

   -sean 


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 Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? 

 Yep...
 Hello there... 

 Apologies if I am beating the dead horse.
 No pun intended...   :) 

 I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have
 the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. 

 Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...    :( 

 My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: 

 If Freerunner dead then
    do I have an alternative
 else
    if Freerunner usable then
        case OS:
            Openmoko: Good? ;;
            Android: Good? ;;
            default: What? ;;
        esac
    else
        do I have an alternative
    fi
 fi 

 I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day
 wild imagination?
 My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really
 there? 

 I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to
 place/receive calls ans SSH into my network.
 Thanks!
 Enrique A. Troconis 

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SOLD!!! Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?

2009-07-07 Thread lists
I'm getting me a Freerunner8)
THANKS!!!
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li...@kitepilot.com writes: 

 Yep...
 Hello there...  
 
 Apologies if I am beating the dead horse.
 No pun intended...   :)  
 
 I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have 
 the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network.  
 
 Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:(  
 
 My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows:  
 
 If Freerunner dead then
 do I have an alternative
 else
 if Freerunner usable then
 case OS:
 Openmoko: Good? ;;
 Android: Good? ;;
 default: What? ;;
 esac
 else
 do I have an alternative
 fi
 fi  
 
 I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day 
 wild imagination?
 My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really 
 there?  
 
 I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to 
 place/receive calls ans SSH into my network.
 Thanks!
 Enrique A. Troconis 
 
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Re: SOLD!!! (one more question: A6 or A7)

2009-07-07 Thread lists
Thanks everyone:
What's the difference (other than the hundred buck price difference) between 
the A6 and the A7?
Should I care?
Again, thanks!
Enrique

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BOUGHT IT!!! (A6 or A7, what about the GPS)

2009-07-07 Thread lists
OK, I got me an A6 with the Buzz fix, which technically makes it an A7.
Or does it... 

SDG mentioned a possible upgrade to the GPS in the A7, is anybody aware of 
any other changes from the A6 to the A7 beyond the Buzz fix?
I have an hour and a half to upgrade my order to an A7...
Thanks!
Enrique

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Re: BOUGHT IT!!! (A6 or A7, what about the GPS)

2009-07-07 Thread lists
OK, they checked it, it has the capacitor.
It's mine.
*ALL* mine
MINE!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! 

Gawh, need to go get my Prozac...
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David Garabana Barro writes: 

 On Tuesday 07 July 2009 18:17:42 li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 OK, I got me an A6 with the Buzz fix, which technically makes it an A7.
 Or does it... 

 SDG mentioned a possible upgrade to the GPS in the A7, is anybody aware of
 any other changes from the A6 to the A7 beyond the Buzz fix?
 
 This one: 
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf 
 
 More information: 
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems 
 
 
 But:
 1) It happened only on A5/early A6. I bought my A6 on 08/2008, and it already 
 had the capacitor. Look at the PDF to be sure yours has it. You can see it 
 simply removing battery.
 2) There is an effective software fix 
 
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Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?

2009-07-07 Thread lists
And how do you install which Debian?
Tnx!
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Timo Jyrinki writes: 

 2009/7/7 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
 If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day
 basis?
 Under what system?
 
 I use it with Debian on a day to day basis. Requires more work than
 eg. SHR or Om2009 distros, but then you get... Debian. I do have
 Om2009 as a dual-boot option, though, for backup (and since I don't
 have anything better to do with the flash storage). 
 
   You may also need a powered hub - I believe the
   phone won't provide power to your keyboard.
 
 It does. I've used both mouse and keyboard with a simple mini USB male
 - USB female adapter. 
 
 -Timo 
 
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Will the Neo have Wifi?

2007-07-08 Thread lists
Will the Neo have Wifi, sometime consider Wimax, a Sip client?
 
 
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