Re: [shr-testing] phonelog wont run
I've the same problem and have already filed a bug report - http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/468 Could you attach the output that you posted in your mail? Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:23:08 -0700 Von: jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: [shr-testing] phonelog wont run whenever i startup phonelog i get a crash screen right after the main window draws. phonelog was working at one point so im not sure what went bad but here is my terminal output. edge of your seat terminal excitment: $ phonelog Phonelog Initialized global vars Initializing gtk interface Showing main window Upright Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/phonelog, line 752, in module incoming.populateList() File /usr/bin/phonelog, line 223, in populateList tmp_duration = int(call[3]) ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '00:30' -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-aktionspreis/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix)
/signed me2 thanks for that service Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:16:05 +0100 Von: Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix) Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 09:20 +0200, Christoph Pulster a écrit : Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Thanks for your support. I'll look forward from you on this topic. Count me in as one of the customer that plan to have a FR upgraded if price sound nice. best regards -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
then unsubscribe from this list...or just don't read such emails... Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:26:00 +0100 Von: arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur) Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTextended 4.4.2] Browser is buggy?!
Hey there, after getting my GPRS connection working, I now have a problem with the browser of QTextended. When I surf on a website (maybe google.com) the website is rendered correctly...but, when I type something in the search box and hit Search there is for a very short moment a loading bar with 10%, after maybe 1/2 second it is away and nothing else happened... Same on many other sites: When I click on something that should redirect me to an other website, the browser doesn't make anything. Is there someone else who discovers this problem? Or is it a problem with my GPRS connection? -- Feel free - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS
Hi, I've installed QTExtended 4.4.2, too. And this is the first image with which it is possible for me to get an GPRS connection. I used the GUI for that and...yay it works on first try (okay...on second, on first it doesn't detected a running network service...after going outside (and getting a better signale quality) it worked :). So the software itself is okay...if your provider needs no login data (username/password) write something inside these fields, else it won't work...(maybe a *) Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:02:06 +0100 Von: Bartłomiej Zimoń [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS Hi list! Have installed recently QtExtended 4.4.2 on SD card. Suspend and wakeup works very well! But ... if battery is almost empty FR wake up to often (turns on LCD and give sound this could discharge baterry to early). Style s60 does not work properly. And finaly i realy need working gprs on fr for mms. There is information in logs that pppd has bad arguments. Could someone check this part and give workaround ? Thanks in advice! Best regards. Bart. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS
hi, oh...that wasn't my idea...I've tried several howtos for the OM distro (none works, perhaps because I don't want to disable my PIN for security reasons...) and in one of them (on freeyourphone.de - german community) there was that hint, that you've to enter something into that, even if your provider doesn't need it ;) I needed a proxy to make it work and (in my case) proxy, DNS and Gateway are all the same...write an email to your provider to get these informations... Happy browsing ;) Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:46:41 +0530 Von: Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if your provider needs no login data (username/password) write something inside these fields, else it won't work...(maybe a *) YAY! It worked! How did you figure that out? I still need to resolve the DNS issue though. Or perhaps it is the proxy. -- GMX Download-Spiele: Preizsturz! Alle Puzzle-Spiele Deluxe über 60% billiger. http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/download/puzzle/index.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why?
hmmm...in the wiki stands, that, what I've written...seems to be something like inconsistent information...thanks for info. Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:14:11 +1030 Von: Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: why? Detructor wrote: and FSO and SHR doesn't have images, yet. (FSO not before spring 2009) and nobody knows when the SHR will come with an image. FSO has released three milestone images, and also has daily build images available at downloads.freesmartphone.org - they may not be the complete stable finished images that you are looking for, but they are bootable functional images nonetheless. SHR has corresponding images available at shr.bearstech.com ... -- Rod (who manages the autobuilders which build those images) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
Hi, yesterday evening I tried to get GPRS working...but...in the HowTo ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_3:_Without_GSM_multiplexing_and_without_a_GUI ) stands that you've to stop /etc/init.d/gsmd ...but in my /etc/init.d there is no gsmd?! I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. When I try to execute the script without stopping gsmd, I get and thats all...the terminal hangs up after that. Hope that somebody can help me. -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
for multiplexing I've to disable the SIM questioning...thats a big secure risk...and it's not possible for me (no second handy and with the neo it's not possible) and if it is only for OM2007 stack, why is there no note in the wiki? thans for the qpe information. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
now it is hangig up with QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask The error is the same as here: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/25/2679844 but they don't have a solution...is there a solution? Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
argh, please ignore that email, thanks. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:42:18 +0200 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! now it is hangig up with QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask The error is the same as here: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/25/2679844 but they don't have a solution...is there a solution? Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?
Hey guys, I've a questition and I hope that someone could help me: I'm searching for a bluetooth headset with 2 ears and 1 mic that I can connect to the Freerunner, so I can hear music...and if a call comes in, I press a button (at the headset or at the neo, that doesn't matter) and then I can hear the other person over the headset and speak with him/her over the mic of the headset. Is that possible? Where can I find such headsets? With kindly regards Steffen -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?
Hi, thanks for the fast answer. Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:29:37 +0300 Von: Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner? On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:10:23 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I've a questition and I hope that someone could help me: I'm searching for a bluetooth headset with 2 ears and 1 mic that I can connect to the Freerunner, so I can hear music...and if a call comes in, I press a button (at the headset or at the neo, that doesn't matter) and then I can hear the other person over the headset and speak with him/her over the mic of the headset. Is that possible? Where can I find such headsets? With kindly regards Steffen Any bluetooth headset (that has A2DP) should work, that means most of them. I have to warn although, that this hasn't been done in software yet afaik so you won't be able to use it for a month or so, depending on how fast it gets done. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner?
okay...so a bluetooth headset should have both a2dp and hsp to fit my needs? Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:36 +0200 Von: arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: Bluetooth Headset compatible to Freerunner? I'm searching for a bluetooth headset with 2 ears and 1 mic that I can connect to the Freerunner, so I can hear music...and if a call comes in, I press a button (at the headset or at the neo, that doesn't matter) and then I can hear the other person over the headset and speak with him/her over the mic of the headset. Is that possible? Where can I find such headsets? you probably need both a2dp and hsp, ie advanced audio distribution profile and headset profile. a2dp is for receiving high(er) qualitiy sound, hsp for making/receiving calls. be aware taht a lot of headset capable of both profiles inevitable switch to hsp on incoming calls, so no stereo, only low quality mono. as far as i understand, the om supports both profiles (and if not it should be easy to integrate). see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile for more information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION
I haven't read the previous messages about this topic...so my first question: how much does it cost? generally: yes, I'm interested and would buy one (if it is not to expensive) ;) Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:39:58 + Von: Yorick Matthys [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION Hi, i recieved a mail from Dan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Yorick, I just received a call from DHL that they are waiting for something to clear customs. It looks like it is an Openmoko device. I appreciate your efforts with getting the device for us, but there is a fee for creating a Custom order invisibleSHIELD. However, if you or someone in your forum would like to sign up as a Reseller for our company, then you or they could get the invisibleSHIELD at a reduced cost. Plus, if the order is large enough and you or they continue to place orders for the invisibleSHIELD, I could have the custom order fee waived. Please let me know if you or someone in your forum would be interested in that. Warm regards, DAN THUESON Account Manager, Reseller Division ZAGG Inc. 3855 S 500 W STE J, SLC, UT 84115 801.263.0699 x103 (o) 801.263.1848(f) HOME OF THE invisibleSHIELD Nasdaq BB Symbol: ZAGG ZAGG.com Wolfgang Spraul confirmed this. So my question is: is someone willing to become a reseller for these screen and case protectors? It seemed to me that there was quite a bit of interest in it. I'll also mail this to Lucas Bonnet from Bearstech (where I have pre-ordered my Freerunner, and whom give good service) and Chris from Pulster.de/eu. I hope someone is willing to help us out. Quick reminder about the invisbleSHIELD: - protects screen or screen AND case - everybody that has it seems satisfied - free shipping worldwide - lifetime warranty - it's the bee's new and improved knees _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION
thanks...I don't have a credit card, so I can't buy there I think (me is from germany) Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:53:59 +0200 Von: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION you can find tons of examples on their site eg: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-touch-diamond-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php 12$ for the screen protector 25$ for the whole device (shipping free worldwide) On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't read the previous messages about this topic...so my first question: how much does it cost? generally: yes, I'm interested and would buy one (if it is not to expensive) ;) Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:39:58 + Von: Yorick Matthys [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION Hi, i recieved a mail from Dan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Yorick, I just received a call from DHL that they are waiting for something to clear customs. It looks like it is an Openmoko device. I appreciate your efforts with getting the device for us, but there is a fee for creating a Custom order invisibleSHIELD. However, if you or someone in your forum would like to sign up as a Reseller for our company, then you or they could get the invisibleSHIELD at a reduced cost. Plus, if the order is large enough and you or they continue to place orders for the invisibleSHIELD, I could have the custom order fee waived. Please let me know if you or someone in your forum would be interested in that. Warm regards, DAN THUESON Account Manager, Reseller Division ZAGG Inc. 3855 S 500 W STE J, SLC, UT 84115 801.263.0699 x103 (o) 801.263.1848(f) HOME OF THE invisibleSHIELD Nasdaq BB Symbol: ZAGG ZAGG.com Wolfgang Spraul confirmed this. So my question is: is someone willing to become a reseller for these screen and case protectors? It seemed to me that there was quite a bit of interest in it. I'll also mail this to Lucas Bonnet from Bearstech (where I have pre-ordered my Freerunner, and whom give good service) and Chris from Pulster.de/eu. I hope someone is willing to help us out. Quick reminder about the invisbleSHIELD: - protects screen or screen AND case - everybody that has it seems satisfied - free shipping worldwide - lifetime warranty - it's the bee's new and improved knees _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS
?you mean the FreeRunner will have an AGPS integrated, not only GPS else, your sentence makes no sense...if you don't know what AGPS is exactly, look it up here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS (IMO the german version of the article is much better) in short: A-GPS means, that first the phone will look in which area it is and then it will try to get it's exact position per GPS...because the phone is knowing it's roughly position, the phone can get the position over the GPS System much faster greetings Steffen Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:02:01 +0200 Von: Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: GPS the FreeRunner will have a true GPS integrated, not only an AGPS system, wouldn't it? Because I was given the address of this flyer: http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf and I hope it is just out-dated ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
