Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810
On 11/11/07, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a stupid question but is it theoretically possible run openmoko on a Nokia Internet tablet? I don't know what processor the Nokia N810 uses. I do know that you can flash with images from maemo.org It should be possible to run openmoko on N800 with some modifications. Nokia n800 uses a ARM11 series processor ( OMAP2420 by texas intruments). So you need to build openmoko against the required processor. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: interface design suggestions
- I understand that you are using the same non-gray color through the interface (orange) to get some coherence. This can be a good idea to avoid making bad color choices but we can do better and get: a) better usability. using different colors for different categories of things is a universal and accepted way of improving usability (think of traffic lights and signals). You shouldn't avoid this resource. b) better experience. The same color all over the interface can get boring quickly! I would second this. I think OM designers should seriously consider this suggestion. - (strictly design problem) I didn't like the horizontal gradient on top, really took my attention toward the left, I felt it was a problem. +1 for this one. - Speaking of font sizes notice how by removing unnecessary elements now I have bigger font sizes everywhere that make everything easier to read. Bigger font sizes is a good option especially for mobile phoens. I remeber I used to strugle a lot with small font sizes on my Motorola linux based smart phone. - The orange glow to indicate selection of an item: it's a cool idea, but unfortunately there's little contrast between orange and white (remember this is a cellphone so we need a lot of contrast). Contrast between yellow and black is 65%, contrast between the current orange and white is 43%. Contrast between a selected cell and the cells above and below also helps, that's why I've removed the glow. A plus about yellow is that it is intuitively recognized as the most used color to highlight stuff. Contrast figures are approximate since I don't know the gamma values of the device in question. Another good suggestion. Also I would like community/OM designers to come up witha theme suitable for colour blinds. People with color disability form a considerable number of mobile users and notice them struggle with mobile phones all the time. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: compilation of openmoko platform
On 8/16/07, Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am eager to develop some apps for neo. I was trying to compile openmoko platform using MokoMakefile. It took almost 12 hours(in P4 3.2Ghz 512 RAM) in the compilation of alsa-lib. still it did not finish. How long will it take to compile in an average system? I just read 7 hours somewhere. Did i forget somethings to do? Why is it taking so long to compile? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance Just check, it might have got stuck downloading something instead of compiling. What happens if you terminate the compilation and start again? regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception
On 8/7/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because such a website, especially if it is to fulfill our security and privacy concerns, needs quite a bit of development time. There are several developers on the list with experience in ecommerce + supply cahin management. We are willing to help in building the wesite which will ease the delivery process (automate as many tasks as possible) and provide updated information to every user. All you need to do is ask for help. Regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception
On 8/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is always a great deal more complicated than just asking for help. Well dear most of are working/have worked in projects which drain even last bit out. But we still manage deliveries and reduce the delays. I am not saying that openmoko team is not doing a good job but the delay in receiivng phones could reduced a bit. What i said in my mail is community could have helped in managing this As it has been pointed out problem is not delayed deliveries but lack of cimmunications. If core team cant find out time to develop such a system/website community membes wil be more tahn wiling to help them. Though they need to spel out there security concerns, so that a solution can be developed accordingly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month I think you are over enthusiastic. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)
On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um... That doesn't seem to get Gmail to thread the messages at all. You're solution is Just don't use Gmail. Duh!. That's not a valid answer to my question. Before you suggest it, the following is also an invalid response: use Outlook or Thunderbird and download all your messages via POP. I use Gmail. Accept it. Now, if you had a Greasemonkey script that made Gmail thread the messages, that would be acceptable. Threaded view in Gmail client works fine ( running under Firefox 1.5 ). There are few messages here and there which jump out of thread. Maybe you should check your settings or write to google. regards VK PS:- I am also using Gmail. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)
On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my questions: 1. Is there a way to get Gmail to thread the messages based on who it was in response to? Yup, admins can set archiving at www.gmane.org. This way you will have archiving as well as threaded view regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freetheiphone.org
On 7/20/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Adam Krikstone wrote: There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. Different operators have different implementation of the GSM standard, which they call it their IP-crap-R. Now, if we want Operator Acceptance Testing with Neo, we have to sign NDA, SLA with the operators? In which case, we cannot implement the same on the Neo as the source code is open, and operators will not like that? Please correct me if I am wrong. I think acceptance test is required when a phone is locked with a plan. In situations where you can use unlocked phones without requiring permissions from GSM operators, no such test should be required. Probably, acceptance test is applicable to GSM chipset and not the phone as such. Btw any documents/pointers on so called operator acceptance test ? regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko and Funambol not working together?
On 7/23/07, Mickael Faivre-Macon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't find the logo at any date (didn't search all tho) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.funambol.com/opensource/partners.html Logo was there a week ago, I too saw the logo. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: well, that didn't take long
Hmmm - claims to have 4, no mention of the limited functionality/developer-only caveats, and AFAIK the developer models have yet to actually ship - so apparently ordered and is re-selling before having them in-hand. This may well ruin his 100% positive ratings. Should this be reported on ebay ? regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment
On 7/13/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a direct (firewall-free) connection to the Internet. You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in shell to connect a machine behind firewalled proxy server. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
