/etc/opkg

2008-08-29 Thread John Whitmore
Hello All,
Firstly I'm not here to moan at all. Love the phone love the SW, I 
was using OM2008.08 and it worked as my daily phone. I'm now trying 
Raster's images and they work as my daily phone. There have been a few 
lockups but in an Alpha that's expected.

Now the Question that I'd like to resolve is the /etc/opkg directory and 
what it contains. I've looked at the wiki page 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg; but it does not explain the 
configuration at all. I could look at the manual for ipkg but I don't 
know is that still valid, given that opkg has branched/augmented from ipkg.

Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's 
contents as with so many distributions available and so many different 
repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy 
position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg 
update, or upgrade or anything as yet.

If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. 
I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-)

Thanks for any help

John

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Re: /etc/opkg

2008-08-29 Thread roguemoko
Hi John,

John Whitmore wrote:
 Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's 
 contents as with so many distributions available and so many different 
 repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy 
 position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg 
 update, or upgrade or anything as yet.

 If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. 
 I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-)
   

I installed the raster build this morning which included all the 
relevant feeds for au stable. I've opkg updated and upraded with no 
issues, well, outside the usual glitches you find in om2008.

All the repos provided in the image I obtained were for 
downloads.openmoko.org which is the currently active branch. It appears 
the image is only modified in so far as the scripts and configuration so 
as long a you don't overwrite configs, everything stays the same. That 
may not be true in the future but it seems to be fine now.

Just make sure your feeds are for downloads.openmoko.org and aren't 
pointing to testing and you should be right.

In the end, this is an educated guess so YMMV. No one has actually 
confirmed any of this since I've been listening in.

Sarton

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Re: /etc/opkg

2008-08-29 Thread John Whitmore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi John,

 John Whitmore wrote:
   
 Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's 
 contents as with so many distributions available and so many different 
 repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy 
 position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg 
 update, or upgrade or anything as yet.

 If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. 
 I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-)
   
 

 I installed the raster build this morning which included all the 
 relevant feeds for au stable. I've opkg updated and upraded with no 
 issues, well, outside the usual glitches you find in om2008.

 All the repos provided in the image I obtained were for 
 downloads.openmoko.org which is the currently active branch. It appears 
 the image is only modified in so far as the scripts and configuration so 
 as long a you don't overwrite configs, everything stays the same. That 
 may not be true in the future but it seems to be fine now.

 Just make sure your feeds are for downloads.openmoko.org and aren't 
 pointing to testing and you should be right.

 In the end, this is an educated guess so YMMV. No one has actually 
 confirmed any of this since I've been listening in.

 Sarton

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Thanks for getting back to me on this. I'll maybe try what you suggest 
but I'd like to understand that directory and it's contents. At present 
when I did the install I'd about five files in there and apart from the 
arch I don't know what any are supposed to do. I read a previous email 
here on Raster's build which said:

 2. Add zecke's testing repository : create a /etc/opkg/updates.conf
 containing
 
 src/gz daily-all-updates
 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all
 src/gz daily-armv4t-updates
 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t
 src/gz daily-neo1973-updates
 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973
 src/gz daily-om-gta02-updates
 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/om-gta02


I moved all the other files in /etc/opkg to a backup directory and just 
used the ones mentioned above. Unfortunately none seemed to pull in 
anything but I'll have to check this again later as my internet 
connection might have been off. I'll include the au stable and see what 
that gives me.

I'll try edit the wiki page with the only information I know which is 
that the arch file should not be moved ;-)

John

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Re: /etc/opkg

2008-08-29 Thread roguemoko
John Whitmore wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi John,

 John Whitmore wrote:
   
 
 Anyhow my problem is that I really want to understand this directory's 
 contents as with so many distributions available and so many different 
 repositories It would seem all too easy to mess up my current happy 
 position with the default Raster build. I'm not sure about doing a opkg 
 update, or upgrade or anything as yet.

 If anybody can point me to some useful information that would be great. 
 I tried the wiki and man opkg on the FR but that was being optimistic;-)
   
 
   
 I installed the raster build this morning which included all the 
 relevant feeds for au stable. I've opkg updated and upraded with no 
 issues, well, outside the usual glitches you find in om2008.

 All the repos provided in the image I obtained were for 
 downloads.openmoko.org which is the currently active branch. It appears 
 the image is only modified in so far as the scripts and configuration so 
 as long a you don't overwrite configs, everything stays the same. That 
 may not be true in the future but it seems to be fine now.

 Just make sure your feeds are for downloads.openmoko.org and aren't 
 pointing to testing and you should be right.

 In the end, this is an educated guess so YMMV. No one has actually 
 confirmed any of this since I've been listening in.

 Sarton

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 Thanks for getting back to me on this. I'll maybe try what you suggest 
 but I'd like to understand that directory and it's contents. At present 
 when I did the install I'd about five files in there and apart from the 
 arch I don't know what any are supposed to do. I read a previous email 
 here on Raster's build which said:

  2. Add zecke's testing repository : create a /etc/opkg/updates.conf
  containing
  
  src/gz daily-all-updates
  http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all
  src/gz daily-armv4t-updates
  http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t
  src/gz daily-neo1973-updates
  http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973
  src/gz daily-om-gta02-updates
  http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/om-gta02


 I moved all the other files in /etc/opkg to a backup directory and just 
 used the ones mentioned above. Unfortunately none seemed to pull in 
 anything but I'll have to check this again later as my internet 
 connection might have been off. I'll include the au stable and see what 
 that gives me.

 I'll try edit the wiki page with the only information I know which is 
 that the arch file should not be moved ;-)
   

Sorry, I thought I'd explained sufficiently.

The contents of /etc/opkg should reflect your chosen branch of om2007/2008.

The arch file I believe denotes what is allowed, so you don't install 
incompatible binary files. The rest of the files merely point to a valid 
repository.

The only valid openmoko repo for om2008 is on downloads.openmoko.org. 
You are chasing your tail following the wiki. A lot of the stuff 
mentioned has been deprecated already. Apparently the zecke stuff has 
been merged into ASU and subsequent updates, so there is really only one 
place where the repos reside.

Ideally, you should not be modifying /etc/opkg at all. You simply 
install the latest feeds package which sets it all up for you to 
whatever the currrent repo/repos should be.

Hope that helps. It really is one of the least confusing parts of the 
openmoko distribution :). Any project using ipkg/opkg works in a similar 
fashion (such as openwrt).

Just a note on the raster image, you do need to manually/forcefully 
disable the Qtopia keyboard to stop the default one from randomly 
disappearing.

Sarton

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