[All] Status of the OM community - volunteer
Hi, I see there is a lot of work on the wiki. How can I help? I am really new to the project, but let me know how I can be helpful. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community - volunteer
Dnia 2009-08-24, pon o godzinie 09:08 +0100, nacer pisze: Hi, I see there is a lot of work on the wiki. How can I help? I am really new to the project, but let me know how I can be helpful. I invite you to help in editing Community Updates. IMHO it is easy for a beginner, require not much work, but has to be done often. On [1] you will find previous CU releases to have something to compare. Current CU work is located in Draft_-MM-DD [2]. Exact instructions how to contribute to Community updates, while conforming to wiki editing guidelines are there [3]. Additionally if you have nice ideas how future Community Updates should look like, we can discuss how template/draft of whole CU should like here [4]. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 [4] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Update_Draft -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community - volunteer
2009/8/24, nacer adamou.na...@gmail.com: Hi, I see there is a lot of work on the wiki. How can I help? I am really new to the project, but let me know how I can be helpful. Thanks. Hi and welcome to the Openmoko community! First of all I'd suggest subscribing to the Openmoko documentation mailing list.[1] It's not very active but there are interesting discussions sometimes. Furthermore you can take a look at the Wiki Issues page[2], though this page hasn't been updated for a long time. As you are new user I think you could help by reviewing or writing manuals on the wiki[3], both for the FreeRunner and the distribution you are using. Moreover many pages about certain distributions need updating. I hope this was helpful marko [1] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_Issues [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[All] Status of the OM community
Hi there!
After OM announced the discontinuation of the OM software development,
there was this discussion about starting a foundation to support the
community.
What's the status? Any action taken?
I feel like suffering from the unorganized community: the wiki is a
mess, apps around are outdated, no instructions available how to
submit apps to repositories and how to create .bb recipes (I know SHR
has it all better :), how to set up a development environment and so
on. There's also a lack of communication about packages and
dependencies: suddenly some library is updated and it breaks tens of
apps without the author or packager knowing about it.
- Coordination and leadership is needed!
I'm actually very happy that we ('the community') were able to start
running Community Updates without anyone from OM to do it, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
Any ideas?
My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and
SW, separate devel/user information, archive or delete outdated
information, take good care of sites like
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Community_Portal
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction
My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around
could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the
wiki.
r
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Re: [All] Status of the OM community
Risto,
My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around
could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the
wiki.
Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated?
I'm not with the company anymore for 2 months, but maybe there are
still some things I can help cleaning up.
I agree with you that the community should show more leadership, the
Community News are a great example!
To me the FreeRunner remains the most interesting cell phone to do
hacking on today, even though it's a technical minefield. Or maybe it
is interesting because it is a minefield ;-)
Wolfgang
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:34:05PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Hi there!
After OM announced the discontinuation of the OM software development,
there was this discussion about starting a foundation to support the
community.
What's the status? Any action taken?
I feel like suffering from the unorganized community: the wiki is a
mess, apps around are outdated, no instructions available how to
submit apps to repositories and how to create .bb recipes (I know SHR
has it all better :), how to set up a development environment and so
on. There's also a lack of communication about packages and
dependencies: suddenly some library is updated and it breaks tens of
apps without the author or packager knowing about it.
- Coordination and leadership is needed!
I'm actually very happy that we ('the community') were able to start
running Community Updates without anyone from OM to do it, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
Any ideas?
My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and
SW, separate devel/user information, archive or delete outdated
information, take good care of sites like
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Community_Portal
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction
My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around
could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the
wiki.
r
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Re: [All] Status of the OM community
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Wolfgang Spraulwolfg...@qi-hardware.com wrote: Risto, My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the wiki. Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated? I'm not with the company anymore for 2 months, but maybe there are still some things I can help cleaning up. Great, thanks! Maybe you could have a look at these: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Official_Openmoko_releases (what's official any more..) Official distro also mentioned here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction - Om doesn't do software any more.. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Regular_Training_Programs - still uprunning? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Policies http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Openmoko I'd also like someone to have a pages like: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freshman_todo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner (lots of outdated om2007 or om2008 stuff..) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download - tons of outdated information.. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions (what makes SHR and FDOM (dead?) more from community than for example neovento? To me the FreeRunner remains the most interesting cell phone to do hacking on today, even though it's a technical minefield. Or maybe it is interesting because it is a minefield ;-) heh :) btw, found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Advertising - interesting stuff, too bad it hasn't be used for something useful.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community
My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and SW, I have already tried to do this with Getting Started with your Neo 1973/Neo FreeRunner. The page Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner is obsolete now. Now we have several manuals on the wiki, which are explicitly separated into device manuals and distribution manuals.[1] Unfortunately the manuals page is not linked to from the navigation bar - on the documentation mailing list it was agreed to have a link, but there are no active wiki sysops to change this. separate devel/user information, This was already discussed several times, but it never really was put into practice. I had planned to attempt this once again when I have got more time - But if anybody else would be willing to do this now that would be great! archive or delete outdated information, Some time ago I thought about this too. However this turned out to be problematic for me: Personally I often have problems to tell whether a page is up-to-date or not because I don't have enough knowledge in this topic. Therefore I'd suggest a different method: Mark pages as maintained if there are editors who regularly check if they are still up to date and have a warning on the top of the page if they are not maintained. I'm currently thinking about a concept on how to realize this - comments are welcome! [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community
Marko Knöbl openmoko.ma...@gmail.com writes: archive or delete outdated information, Some time ago I thought about this too. However this turned out to be problematic for me: Personally I often have problems to tell whether a page is up-to-date or not because I don't have enough knowledge in this topic. Any page about OM2008.x is outdated. Any page about bluez3 is outdated. And i think that any exact recipies are harmful too, users should be educated instead getting strange and non-tested instructions. E.g. look at all the pages that mention iptables: lots of useless commands without any decent explanation. Also, if you have concerns about technical correctness of any particular page, i suggest you ask guys on IRC (including me) to comment on that. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
