Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:47, kenneth marken wrote: 3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our analogical sense of space. I hope the chip will enable ZUIs, together with the accelerometers, not just eye-candy ! Anyway, these are great news !!! Cheers Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our Most of the time blitting = 2D :) But seriously, even window zooming isn't real 3D, and I'm not sure that you want an extra chip there just for aqua/beryl-like eyecandy. Of course, if you already have that chip there for other reasons, like image processing, H264, hardware MP3/AAC and blitting) it wont hurt to add some extra coolness :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Monday 04 June 2007 12:48, Frank Coenen wrote: H264 will probably not work. If you look at the website: http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm The chip used by the GTA_02 will probably be the 3362-version. That supports VGA displays, but does not support H264. At least it lists MPEG4, so not all is lost :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our analogical sense of space. I hope the chip will enable ZUIs, together with the accelerometers, not just eye-candy ! You bet! After we feel comfortable enough with the software enabling the GTA01 to work as a concept/prototyping/development device, this is where I'd like to focus on (if my I'm allowed to, that is ;) -- - Michael Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the worlds' first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
I imagine some creative programmer could offload some GPS calculations into 3D space... just an idea if the GPU is very efficient. ~Bradley Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our Most of the time blitting = 2D :) But seriously, even window zooming isn't real 3D, and I'm not sure that you want an extra chip there just for aqua/beryl-like eyecandy. Of course, if you already have that chip there for other reasons, like image processing, H264, hardware MP3/AAC and blitting) it wont hurt to add some extra coolness :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
An one more thing.. Is there a camera for the phone too? Just because I saw on the Samsung's website that it has a camera support: Camera Interface supporting up to 4096 x 4096 resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel input support for scaling) http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/SC32442/SC32442.htm Dan On 6/3/07, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh oh ye flippin gods! yes, now we are talking phone! im seriously looking forward to seeing what people can make of this device :D ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community (i forwarded them both as they looked like they where aimed at the group in general rather then to me specific. note that when you hit reply it only sends to the original sender, not the group as a whole!) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? Dan On 6/3/07, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh oh ye flippin gods! yes, now we are talking phone! im seriously looking forward to seeing what people can make of this device :D ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic :) When will Phase 2 be ready? 3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment is best for such a small screen.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
No... Look at the rest ;-) That would also mean that GTA02 doesn't have a gsm-chip :-p The GTA02 part simply says what it has extra to the GTAb_v4 On 6/3/07, Richard Boehme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
