Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If you look at the ATR0635 datasheet directly from Atmel: | | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4928.pdf | | you'll read on page 14: | "RAW (RAW message support requires an additional license)" | | U-blox (Atmel's software partner) only sells some of its products with RAW | message support (notably the LEA-4T) | So even if it's a supported feature we can not really be sure if the firmware | on the chip allows us access to the RAW messages :( | | I guess we'll have to wait until somebody interested in this topic receives | his/her own Freerunner... Here is the reset header that device spews: $GPTXT,01,01,02,u-blox ag - www.u-blox.com*50 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ANTARIS ATR062x HW 80040001*26 $GPTXT,01,01,02,ROM CORE 5.00Jan 09 2006 12:00:00*76 $GPTXT,01,01,02,LIC 1EBF-BD07-E83D-6BE1-0F7A*50 It has some kind of LICense, good, bad or indifferent I dunno. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg+XnYACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpS+gCfeFsg2+PtRlx4T5/aA7QefwUE CbQAnAm/a8HcP6tSdZpY3BzUk+GmyEcP =I0S3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
If you look at the ATR0635 datasheet directly from Atmel: http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4928.pdf you'll read on page 14: "RAW (RAW message support requires an additional license)" U-blox (Atmel's software partner) only sells some of its products with RAW message support (notably the LEA-4T) So even if it's a supported feature we can not really be sure if the firmware on the chip allows us access to the RAW messages :( I guess we'll have to wait until somebody interested in this topic receives his/her own Freerunner... -- beren On Wednesday 28 May 2008 16:36:55 Joseph Reeves wrote: > According to the datasheet for the chip ATR0635, DGPS is a supported > feature: > > http://www.u-blox.com/products/Data_Sheets/ATR0630_35_SglChip_Data_Sheet(GP >S.G4-X-06009).pdf > > If I'm reading this correct, we've also got "supersense" available, > which should improve accuracy. > > I'll be the first to admit, however, that I really am not the best > person to talk to about the technical side of such things. > > Joseph > > 2008/5/28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wednesday 28 May 2008 11:46:45 Joseph Reeves wrote: > >> We're looking to develop a combined DGPS and A-GPS application for the > >> platform, for which we need the data contained within this binary > >> protocol. > > > > That sounds great - I presume you need access to the RXM-RAW message > > which to the best of my knowledge is not available/accessible on all > > Antaris chips due to licensing/firmware reasons. Could anybody confirm > > that it is possible to access the RXM-RAW information from the Antaris > > chip in the Freerunner? That would be really great news because without > > it DGPS would be impossible... > > > > -- beren > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
Hi, On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:36:55 +0100 "Joseph Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to the datasheet for the chip ATR0635, DGPS is a supported feature: > If DGPS is supported, it means that you can feed DGPS data from some source into it. But you need the raw data messages, if you want to use the Freerunner as a base station for DGPS (and running around with another Freerunner using that base station). As far as I can remember there are also tools to measure the distance between two measurement points by using these raw messages. Greetings Andreas Kemnade signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
According to the datasheet for the chip ATR0635, DGPS is a supported feature: http://www.u-blox.com/products/Data_Sheets/ATR0630_35_SglChip_Data_Sheet(GPS.G4-X-06009).pdf If I'm reading this correct, we've also got "supersense" available, which should improve accuracy. I'll be the first to admit, however, that I really am not the best person to talk to about the technical side of such things. Joseph 2008/5/28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday 28 May 2008 11:46:45 Joseph Reeves wrote: >> We're looking to develop a combined DGPS and A-GPS application for the >> platform, for which we need the data contained within this binary protocol. > > That sounds great - I presume you need access to the RXM-RAW message which to > the best of my knowledge is not available/accessible on all Antaris chips due > to licensing/firmware reasons. Could anybody confirm that it is possible to > access the RXM-RAW information from the Antaris chip in the Freerunner? That > would be really great news because without it DGPS would be impossible... > > -- beren > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wednesday 28 May 2008 11:46:45 Joseph Reeves wrote: |> We're looking to develop a combined DGPS and A-GPS application for the |> platform, for which we need the data contained within this binary protocol. | | That sounds great - I presume you need access to the RXM-RAW message which to | the best of my knowledge is not available/accessible on all Antaris chips due | to licensing/firmware reasons. Could anybody confirm that it is possible to | access the RXM-RAW information from the Antaris chip in the Freerunner? That | would be really great news because without it DGPS would be impossible... All I can say is that RMX-RAW format UBX messages are defined in a public magic chm (Okular will eat it, rather slowly) file, if they are "licensed" or work I have no idea. http://www.u-blox.com/customersupport/gps.g3/ANTARIS_Protocol_Specification(GPS.G3-X-03002).chm - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg9X4EACgkQOjLpvpq7dMossACgiJjFoaLSHoGKe56OOkzPmUvy 5f4An0xi3TU/A3Y/M6jKReWjqQYmlURP =MPht -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
On Wednesday 28 May 2008 11:46:45 Joseph Reeves wrote: > We're looking to develop a combined DGPS and A-GPS application for the > platform, for which we need the data contained within this binary protocol. That sounds great - I presume you need access to the RXM-RAW message which to the best of my knowledge is not available/accessible on all Antaris chips due to licensing/firmware reasons. Could anybody confirm that it is possible to access the RXM-RAW information from the Antaris chip in the Freerunner? That would be really great news because without it DGPS would be impossible... -- beren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
We're looking to develop a combined DGPS and A-GPS application for the platform, for which we need the data contained within this binary protocol. We're already using an application that gets GPS data from GPSD (TangoGPS), one that gets its data from the FreeRunner's internal serial port (an in house produced geo-tagging application); but now we're thinking of higher accuracy applications. All will be released at openarchaeology.net when it's ready. Joseph 2008/5/28 Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 28 May 2008 03:08:24 +0200, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I'd like to request if there's any boilerplate code available to deal with >> the binary protocol as provided by the FreeRunner's u-blox chip? This would >> be a great help to us. > > What's the advantage of that binary protocol over NMEA? Does it convey more > information? Is Freerunner going to have the GPS chip run in the binary > mode? > > > -- > Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, 28 May 2008 03:08:24 +0200, Michael Shiloh | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> I'd like to request if there's any boilerplate code available to deal |> with the binary protocol as provided by the FreeRunner's u-blox chip? |> This would be a great help to us. | | What's the advantage of that binary protocol over NMEA? Does it convey | more information? Is Freerunner going to have the GPS chip run in the | binary mode? There are some commands that only operate in the proprietary binary format... the main NMEA sentences though contain everything you would normally expect from GPS and spew once per second automatically. The binary and NMEA stuff coexists on the same UART. Some stuff like stashing and restoring the data it took time to get from the satellites is done in the proprietary binary mode, handy to recover GPS quickly from suspend for example. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg9HioACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoCGwCcDklgvlijQsudLyJ77a1kzjyx 8XYAnj839qFIAaBjwvVa0dWs/N4x31K7 =vwb/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
On Wed, 28 May 2008 03:08:24 +0200, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to request if there's any boilerplate code available to deal with the binary protocol as provided by the FreeRunner's u-blox chip? This would be a great help to us. What's the advantage of that binary protocol over NMEA? Does it convey more information? Is Freerunner going to have the GPS chip run in the binary mode? -- Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fwd: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code]
Since this question might be of general interest, I've taken the liberty of answering it on the list. Joseph asked about u-blox code, and Andy pointed us to the DM2 test code: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=gta02-production-testing.git;a=blob;f=gta02-dm2/src/dm2.c;h=caddb49b2a7abca366e83dd36b87aa9ce857d416;hb=HEAD#l517 - -Andy Original Message Subject: u-blox binary protocol boilerplate code Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:52:14 +0100 (BST) From: Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Michael I'd like to request if there's any boilerplate code available to deal with the binary protocol as provided by the FreeRunner's u-blox chip? This would be a great help to us. Many thanks, Joseph -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
