Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-11-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 08 November 2012 23:11:06 Michaël Parchet wrote:
 Le 30 oct. 2012 à 17:27, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk a écrit 
:
  On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
  Hello,
  
  The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.
  
  Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?
  
  Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u
  in the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601
  will fit on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably
  electrically compatible.
  
  http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/
 
 Hello,
 
 Do you test this 4g card in a freerunner ?

No. It wouldn't fit in a freerunner (GTA02). I pointed it out because it is 
from the same supplier as the 3G module in the GTA04 and appears intended to 
be interchangable, but is slightly bigger. It would be a way for 
GoldenDelicious to offer 4G with minimal redesign of the GTA04, or perhaps put 
them on the GTA04 without modification _IF_ there's enough space. Whether they 
feel enough people will buy one to make the extra work worthwhile is another 
matter entirely.

 Is this card compatible 3g ?

Yes. Follow the link and it shows you which standards and radio bands it works 
in. Note the limited 4G bands, meaning it won't work with 4G in some 
countries, a limitation that seems to apply to all 4G products at the moment.

 Best regarda
 
 mparchet
 
  In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
  be quickly out of date.
  
  Whath's your opinion ?
  
  Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be
  a bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release
  
  That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve.
  Getting the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the
  moment. 
  Best regards
  
  mparchet
  
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-11-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 08 November 2012 23:11:06 Michaël Parchet wrote:
 Le 30 oct. 2012 à 17:27, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk a écrit 
:
  On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
  Hello,
  
  The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.
  
  Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?
  
  Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u
  in the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601
  will fit on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably
  electrically compatible.
  
  http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/
 
 Hello,
 
 Do you test this 4g card in a freerunner ?

No. It wouldn't fit in a freerunner (GTA02). I pointed it out because it is 
from the same supplier as the 3G module in the GTA04 and appears intended to 
be interchangable, but is slightly bigger. It would be a way for 
GoldenDelicious to offer 4G with minimal redesign of the GTA04, or perhaps put 
them on the GTA04 without modification _IF_ there's enough space. Whether they 
feel enough people will buy one to make the extra work worthwhile is another 
matter entirely.

 Is this card compatible 3g ?

Yes. Follow the link and it shows you which standards and radio bands it works 
in. Note the limited 4G bands, meaning it won't work with 4G in some 
countries, a limitation that seems to apply to all 4G products at the moment.

 Best regarda
 
 mparchet
 
  In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
  be quickly out of date.
  
  Whath's your opinion ?
  
  Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be
  a bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release
  
  That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve.
  Getting the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the
  moment. 
  Best regards
  
  mparchet
  
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-11-08 Thread Michaël Parchet

Le 30 oct. 2012 à 17:27, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk a écrit :

 On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.
 
 Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?
 
 Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u in 
 the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601 will fit 
 on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably electrically 
 compatible.
   http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/

Hello,

Do you test this 4g card in a freerunner ?

Is this card compatible 3g ?

Best regarda

mparchet
 
 In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
 be quickly out of date.
 
 Whath's your opinion ?
 
 Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be a 
 bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release 
 
 That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve. 
 Getting 
 the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment.
 
 Best regards
 
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Parchet
Hello,

Could you inform me when the 3g or the 4g  motherboard, or best, a
freerunner with this will be available by a supplier ?

Tanks by advance.

mparchet




2012/10/30 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk:
 On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
 Hello,

 The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.

 Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?

 Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u in
 the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601 will fit
 on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably electrically
 compatible.
 http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/

 In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
 be quickly out of date.

 Whath's your opinion ?

 Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be a
 bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release

 That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve. Getting
 the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment.

 Best regards

 mparchet


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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.
 
 Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?

Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u in 
the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601 will fit 
on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably electrically 
compatible.
http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/

 In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
 be quickly out of date.

 Whath's your opinion ?

Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be a 
bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release 

That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve. Getting 
the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment.
 
 Best regards
 
 mparchet


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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Parchet
Hi,

I'm waiting for an openmoko freerunner phone with gta04 or more recent.

Do you know when it will available ?

Best regards

mparchet

2012/10/28 Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im:
 Hi,

 It might be a good idea to have such a survey on your website
 on what components people excpect on their tablet.

 I second that (if that's important).

 Xavier
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Parchet
Hello,

The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.

Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?

In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
be quickly out of date.

Whath's your opinion ?

Best regards

mparchet

2012/10/29 Michael Parchet mparc...@sunrise.ch:
 Hi,

 I'm waiting for an openmoko freerunner phone with gta04 or more recent.

 Do you know when it will available ?

 Best regards

 mparchet

 2012/10/28 Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im:
 Hi,

 It might be a good idea to have such a survey on your website
 on what components people excpect on their tablet.

 I second that (if that's important).

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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-28 Thread Xavier Maillard
Hi,

 It might be a good idea to have such a survey on your website
 on what components people excpect on their tablet.

I second that (if that's important).

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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-27 Thread Lukas Märdian
Am 26.10.2012 22:08, schrieb Radek Polak:
 On Friday, October 26, 2012 09:00:52 PM Onen wrote:
 a though crossed my mind. Would that make sense, to create the inner
 part of the phone, but compatible with an existing case. For example,
 let's say you make a phone compatible with case and screen of an iphone
 1, or 2, or any other phone which had great success. This could provide
 a lot of spare parts for little cost.

 Does that make any sense?

 If you can buy the case as separate part for reasonable price then it could. 
 But i dont think iPhone case can be bought separately. And you have to take 
 into account how fast are all these devices obsolete.

Another problem with commercial cases are its displays and the display
connectors/protocol particularly. As there is no documentation available
for e.g. iphone displays we would have to reverse engineer them.

 Btw i have talked with guy who designed aluminium CNC made case for 
 Freerunner/GTA04. His main problem (and i hit the problem too with wooden 
 case) is that the PCB shape and buttons on it are quite complicated. If it 
 was 
 flat rectangle it would be much easier. Also some parts need quite high 
 precision - like the earpiece or gsm antenna - i am still surprised that it 
 still works in my printed case...

The 3D printing technology works barely. Some parts had to be modified
to be printable. In my latest version of the printed case I modified the
Earpiece connector to fit the original Phillips earpiece, this works
pretty good now.

Cheers,
  Lukas
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-26 Thread Onen

Hi,

a though crossed my mind. Would that make sense, to create the inner 
part of the phone, but compatible with an existing case. For example, 
let's say you make a phone compatible with case and screen of an iphone 
1, or 2, or any other phone which had great success. This could provide 
a lot of spare parts for little cost.


Does that make any sense?

Onen


On 10/22/2012 05:10 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:


A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units):

* a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS  GPS 
capabilities
* a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet Express [2]
* Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT)
* PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT)
* Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT)
* plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR

If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let us know.

Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of battery and
complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are some
connectors not  installed). And everyone could buy a display and a Shapeways
case whereever he/she likes.

Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there
be more interest in completely assembled devices?

Nikolaus

[1] http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html
[2] http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-26 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, October 26, 2012 09:00:52 PM Onen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 a though crossed my mind. Would that make sense, to create the inner
 part of the phone, but compatible with an existing case. For example,
 let's say you make a phone compatible with case and screen of an iphone
 1, or 2, or any other phone which had great success. This could provide
 a lot of spare parts for little cost.
 
 Does that make any sense?

If you can buy the case as separate part for reasonable price then it could. 
But i dont think iPhone case can be bought separately. And you have to take 
into account how fast are all these devices obsolete.

Btw i have talked with guy who designed aluminium CNC made case for 
Freerunner/GTA04. His main problem (and i hit the problem too with wooden 
case) is that the PCB shape and buttons on it are quite complicated. If it was 
flat rectangle it would be much easier. Also some parts need quite high 
precision - like the earpiece or gsm antenna - i am still surprised that it 
still works in my printed case...

Regards

Radek

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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
HI,

Am 20.10.2012 um 23:05 schrieb Boudewijn:

 On Saturday 20 October 2012 20:30:45 Michaël Parchet wrote:
 Before to buy a freerunner, I would like to make sure that, with the gta04,
 I have a 3g antenna and so I can phone throw 3g
 I am quite sure. I am not sure though, whether I have been in 3G-only areas 
 with my phone, so I have not been able to experience first hand.
 
 If it's the case, I'm very interested to buy a freerunner with the gta 04.
 You understand correctly: to use the GTA04, parts from a previous Openmoko 
 phone are needed, or replacement parts.
 
 But it seems that the gta 04 is currently not available. isn't it  ?
 Nikolaus is the best to answer that question.

Yes, the last batch is completely sold out. And production by the
current facility to fulfill the open orders is unfortunately still sluggish
(I hestitate to share the frustrating details).

But technically it is no major problem to produce more GTA04 boards
in the same facility as the OpenPandoras are made.

We are currently working on the new PCB layout GTA04A5 to fix some
minor issues (no significant functional changes) to make it easier to
change the production line. But this is only some homework that can
be finalized in the next two weeks or so.


When it comes to complete devices around the GTA04 (i.e. OpenPhoenux
devices), there are two not yet sufficiently solved issues:

Firstly, for replacement parts we are still waiting for a good and still 
inexpensive
antenna design to emerge.

Secondly, we have no really convincing solution for small volume mass
production of nice and durable plastic (or metal or wood) cases. Injection
moulding is too expensive unless we get beyond 2-3k units and 3D printing
is still not as good as everyone would like to see.


But the really unsolved problem is how to finance the next batch so that
everybody is becoming happy.

From the previous batch and the current wishlist entries we know that
many expect some 200 to max. 300 EUR for a GTA04. But this is not
achievable at all, unless we see demand for 10k units or would start to
subsidize the devices by some non-free content and make it DRM protected...

But to stay a little below 500 EUR appears to be an achievable target.

To get below this price line means that we produce at least 200 or more
units in a single batch. You can estimate yourself how much money
needs to be collected before production starts...

For achieving this minimum, we need your help to convince others to buy
as many GTA04 boards as possible.

Otherwise this project will simply die out like the Neanderthalensis.
Because if there isn't enough demand in the results of a project, no
financial trick (*) can make it economically feasible...


Nikolaus

(*) kickstarter isn't a financial trick - it is an advertising and sales 
platform.
Volunteer contributions are limited when it comes to buying chips
and components.


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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread robin
I was wondering if you still, even though your frustration level must now be 
almost saturated, could make an estimate if the last GTA04 preorder batch is  
likely to be send out as an early Christmas Gifts or rather in 2013?

best regards and many thanks again for pulling this off in the first place 
(+ all the great developers putting thing things in place for SHR/QtMoko)

robin


ps: how much more will the GTA7004 cost; internally it uses the GTA04 if
I understand correctly? so would that be an option to increase GTA04 demand.
I certainly am looking for a small tablet with specifications similar to 
the Archos G09 80.


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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi,

Am 22.10.2012 um 09:12 schrieb robin:

 I was wondering if you still, even though your frustration level must now be 
 almost saturated, could make an estimate if the last GTA04 preorder batch is  
 likely to be send out as an early Christmas Gifts or rather in 2013?

You are unfortunately the second last on the backorder list. So it will take a 
little longer.

 best regards and many thanks again for pulling this off in the first place 
 (+ all the great developers putting thing things in place for SHR/QtMoko)
 
 robin
 
 
 ps: how much more will the GTA7004 cost; internally it uses the GTA04 if
 I understand correctly? so would that be an option to increase GTA04 demand.
 I certainly am looking for a small tablet with specifications similar to 
 the Archos G09 80.

A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units):

* a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS  GPS 
capabilities
* a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet Express [2]
* Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT)
* PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT)
* Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT)
* plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR

If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let us know.

Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of battery and
complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are some
connectors not  installed). And everyone could buy a display and a Shapeways
case whereever he/she likes.

Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there
be more interest in completely assembled devices?

Nikolaus

[1] http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html
[2] http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Hi, I found this one :
http://honglixin-hk.en.alibaba.com/product/555784898-213451334/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7_0_SIZE_LCD_TFT_LED_800_480_WLED.html

As the price on the page is 10$ (!!), I prefered to send a request for 500 pcs. 
I'll post the answer a soon as I got it.

Regards

Thomas
- Mail original -
| De: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
| À: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
| Envoyé: Lundi 22 Octobre 2012 17:10:18
| Objet: Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available
| 
| Hi,
| 
| 
| You are unfortunately the second last on the backorder list. So it
| will take a little longer.
| 
| 
| A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units):
| 
| * a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS 
| GPS capabilities
| * a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet
| Express [2]
| * Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT)
| * PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT)
| * Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT)
| * plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR
| 
| If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let
| us know.
| 
| Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of
| battery and
| complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are
| some
| connectors not  installed). And everyone could buy a display and a
| Shapeways
| case whereever he/she likes.
| 
| Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there
| be more interest in completely assembled devices?
| 
| Nikolaus
| 
| [1]
| http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html
| [2]
| http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 22.10.2012 um 17:29 schrieb Thomas HOCEDEZ:

 Hi, I found this one :
 http://honglixin-hk.en.alibaba.com/product/555784898-213451334/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7_0_SIZE_LCD_TFT_LED_800_480_WLED.html
 
 As the price on the page is 10$ (!!), I prefered to send a request for 500 
 pcs. I'll post the answer a soon as I got it.

Wow! Let's hope this is not a scam, although it looks like one...

 
 Regards
 
 Thomas
 - Mail original -
 | De: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
 | À: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 | Envoyé: Lundi 22 Octobre 2012 17:10:18
 | Objet: Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available
 | 
 | Hi,
 | 
 | 
 | You are unfortunately the second last on the backorder list. So it
 | will take a little longer.
 | 
 | 
 | A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units):
 | 
 | * a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS 
 | GPS capabilities
 | * a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet
 | Express [2]
 | * Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR
 | 
 | If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let
 | us know.
 | 
 | Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of
 | battery and
 | complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are
 | some
 | connectors not  installed). And everyone could buy a display and a
 | Shapeways
 | case whereever he/she likes.
 | 
 | Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there
 | be more interest in completely assembled devices?
 | 
 | Nikolaus
 | 
 | [1]
 | http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html
 | [2]
 | http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Thomas,

If i read the page right, the price is *between* 10 an 1000 dollar a piece.
I hope they sell it to you for 10 USD !

Kind regards,
Ed

On 10/22/2012 05:29 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:
 Hi, I found this one :
 http://honglixin-hk.en.alibaba.com/product/555784898-213451334/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7_0_SIZE_LCD_TFT_LED_800_480_WLED.html

 As the price on the page is 10$ (!!), I prefered to send a request for 500 
 pcs. I'll post the answer a soon as I got it.

 Regards

 Thomas
 - Mail original -
 | De: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
 | À: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 | Envoyé: Lundi 22 Octobre 2012 17:10:18
 | Objet: Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available
 | 
 | Hi,
 | 
 | 
 | You are unfortunately the second last on the backorder list. So it
 | will take a little longer.
 | 
 | 
 | A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units):
 | 
 | * a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS 
 | GPS capabilities
 | * a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet
 | Express [2]
 | * Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT)
 | * plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR
 | 
 | If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let
 | us know.
 | 
 | Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of
 | battery and
 | complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are
 | some
 | connectors not  installed). And everyone could buy a display and a
 | Shapeways
 | case whereever he/she likes.
 | 
 | Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there
 | be more interest in completely assembled devices?
 | 
 | Nikolaus
 | 
 | [1]
 | http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html
 | [2]
 | http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B
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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread Boudewijn
On Monday 22 October 2012 19:09:41 Ed Kapitein wrote:
 Hi Thomas,
 
 If i read the page right, the price is *between* 10 an 1000 dollar a piece.
 I hope they sell it to you for 10 USD !

I don't even get a page any longer ;-) But a search for LCD module turns up 
quite a few, ranging from 320x240 to 17 on the first page. Also with minimum 
orders as low as 2 pieces, and others with prices as low as $2 (for a not 
mentioned amount). There's one that sends low-res displays for shipping costs 
for testing, though their warranty terms made me smile [1]: 

 Warranty: Usually, product warrantees last 12 months if normally used

When looking around, what should we look for? The topoly screen got a bit of a 
special connector, I understood. Would dual-screen be an option? Or is that a 
bit 20th century? We could up the ante, and go for 3d (3display, that is). 

To find additional markets: is anyone on the list into cars? Did you use 
OBD2 or some kind of interface? Would it be nice to have a phone or tablet 
that reads out real-time engine info? My rationale was: car extra's seem 
usually higher priced than comparable non-car gadgets (but I'm not so much 
into cars, so I'm not really in touch with reality there...)

Best regards,

Boudewijn


[1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/518480309/4_inch_3_3v_tft_lcd.html


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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-22 Thread robin
personally I would go for the fully assembled device and I think as for the 
GTA04 it would be good to have both options: assembled and DIY.
For me personally only a tablet with GPS and UMTS is interesting. It might 
be a good idea to have such a survey on your website on what components 
people excpect on their tablet.

br

robin


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