Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph Pulster escribió: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone. It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for everyday use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the Freerunner into it. -1 (note: minus 1) Since I got the FR some years ago, I used it with Om2008.9 and now with SHR as my one and only and daily phone; well, maybe because I'm not a Linux-die-for-geek, but a FreeBSD-die-for-geek :-) I will now buy the GTA04, once I get the offer requested :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results
People, On 2012-01-17 22:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph Pulster escribió: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone. It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for everyday use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the Freerunner into it. -1 (note: minus 1) Since I got the FR some years ago, I used it with Om2008.9 and now with SHR as my one and only and daily phone; well, maybe because I'm not a Linux-die-for-geek, but a FreeBSD-die-for-geek :-) I will now buy the GTA04, once I get the offer requested :-) +1-1 I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS functionality. Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was nice enough to use as a daily phone but there are still some limitations (battery life, hard to hear in non-quiet situations, GPS app problems etc). I am a Linux geek but a fairly light mobile phone user - I just couldn't justify spending another big chunk of money on something that uses the same case . . My 2c Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results
Am 17.01.2012 um 11:49 schrieb Christoph Pulster: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone. It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for everyday use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the Freerunner into it. I think the key problem was neither the device nor the software itself. It was how everything was organized. Too many restarts from scratch instead of fixing the issues everyone was aware of... The way out of this dead-end would be advertising the Freerunner as 100% open source project platform with GSM functionality, mainly aiming to business-customers, which base a solution on this hardware. Some intrepid small companies tried it, but support on Openmoko site was poor, so they quit soon. Pushing this way of business, the sales would Business customers also need a long-term commitment that the devices will remain in production and development as long as possible. This was not given with stopping the GTA03 device shortly before it was finished. be factor 10x at least, which would help to survive Open Source companys as Openmoko. I suggest the same thing to GTA04. There are very few geeks left who are willing to pay 500+ euro for a so-lala-working piece of hardware with no nice looking case at all. The GTA04 is open to any small or large company who wants to experiment with the GTA04 board and wants to make business out of it and ordering larger quantities. We also have a special feature of the GTA04: the design process is very flexible even for low quantities. Add an RFID reader, replace the display etc. A sample is the GTA04-Custom device. Try this with one of the big 5 :) Thanks for pointing out this additional feature of the GTA04. the idea is good, but the world isn't ready yet (Tocotronic, http://www.juzp.net/SDh4oshWf0GPO) But still better than The idea was good, but the world has gone ahead... Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:05:22PM +1100, Philip Rhoades escribió: I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS functionality. Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was nice enough to use as a daily phone but there are still some limitations (battery life, hard to hear in non-quiet situations, GPS app problems etc). I am a Linux geek but a fairly light mobile phone user - I just couldn't justify spending another big chunk of money on something that uses the same case . . Concerning some of your points: battery life: this was always an issue while using Om2008.9; sometimes I just ended up with a brick with no power; this was because suspend was not working reliable, or better wakeup was not; now with SHR my FR is always in suspend mode and wakes up fine on any incoming call, on SMS, on Alarm; I run days(!) without looking for a recharge, really! as well GPS is working like a champ, I start tangoGPS and after a few seconds (in clear sky) the FR knows where we are; give SHR a try (I'm running some stable version of 2010, I think) matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results
On Monday 16 January 2012 08:53:04 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with subscriptions. What are the reasons? I think a lot of people who bought GTA02 were not satisfied with it. For me it was quite long way before i could actually start to use it as a phone (one year). A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
