Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-24 Thread Daniel Benoy
Is there any way to downgrade back to stable?

On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> hi,
> 
> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
> problem yet?
> 
> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
> isn't solved yet.
> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
> 
> But now i don't have any desktop icons.
> 
> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
> 
> some ideas?
> 
> thx beni
> 
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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-24 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 02:53:39 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> i thought of the groups like that:
> 
> -
> unstable :  just compiling every day the latest git trees. (no mater 
> what's happening in there)
> testing :  managed tree. where a human person puts in things that he 
> tested as functional version. (to see if it is realy functional)
> stable : really tested tree.
> -

Yeah I thought they would do it the same way as Debian.  They would get their 
software working in the unstable tree, making active changes to it moment by 
moment, and the testing tree would get some TLC by someone every once in a 
while to update software known to be behaving in the unstable tree, in the 
hopes that it will be thoroughly tested by the public and become a candidate 
for the stable tree.

Is that openmoko's goal here to do it that way?  Am I misinterprating the way 
Debian does it?

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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-22 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
Is there a ticket for this icon problem?

- Gunnar


John Lee wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:33:09PM -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote:
>> On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 you wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
>>> problem yet?
> 
> My last comments in #2071, but not the same bug it seems.
> 
>>> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
>>> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
>>> isn't solved yet.
>>> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
>>>
>>> But now i don't have any desktop icons.
> 
>> I'm in the same boat as you there.  Can anyone even shed any light
>> on what the cause of this is?  I don't mind a little debugging but
>> it's a bit over my head I don't even know where to start.
>>
>> Also, is active development (or building from git or whatever)
>> happening in the 'testing' instead of 'unstable' ?  If that's the
>> case then I misunderstood the purposes of the feeds and should have
>> went with stable.
> 
> active development happening in unstable.  This illume issue should
> not be there in the first place.
> 
>>> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
>>> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
>> I fixed this by removing and reinstalling illume-theme-asu, and then 
>> installing illume-theme-illume (I believe this is also necessary in order to 
>> get the illume keyboard I like, but it also fixed the problem with all those 
>> little icons being squished into the same place and tiny.)
> 
> - John
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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-22 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Benedikt Schindler schrieb:
> [...]
>
>
> i think i will test the unstable feed now ... maybe there are some issue 
> solved yet ... and maybe there is the new kernel with faster nand read :)
>
> i'll give you a hint if it changed something.
>
> Beni 
> [...]
>   

no change for the icons.
but the new kernel is booting much faster. 

it's a speed up of 30 seconds at the normal boot.
and 20 seconds by the Xserver.
(but that's maybe because of the not existing icons ;) or my clock is 
going wrong  or i'm still drunk from yesterday :) )
 


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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Benedikt Schindler
thanks for the tip.
but it's not the problem that they are not configured any more.
All the desktop files are there. But they don't show up on the screen.

I crashed the hole enlightment once. and enlightment gaves me a standard 
config.
so i had a normal standard desktop on the freerunner. (was funny, but 
the keyboard just didn't work right anymore)
and there the icons where all in the menue at the places where they belong.

@Daniel:

It didn't work by me. ... but it's not the high priority task. to see my 
applications again is more important.

i thought of the groups like that:

-
unstable :  just compiling every day the latest git trees. (no mater 
what's happening in there)
testing :  managed tree. where a human person puts in things that he 
tested as functional version. (to see if it is realy functional)
stable : really tested tree.
-

but there seems to be no person who is responsible for the testing tree.
Because that person would have taken back the changes that really kills 
that tree.
or would have taken down the hole tree 

@openmoko: how is it possible that there is a tree still online after 6 
days that is known for killing the phone?
(i mean it's a "no boot possible anymore" bug and not a "sudoku didn't 
work anymore" bug ;) )

...

...

i think i will test the unstable feed now ... maybe there are some issue 
solved yet ... and maybe there is the new kernel with faster nand read :)

i'll give you a hint if it changed something.

Beni




nickd schrieb:
> Icons are also kept in /usr/share/applications so mount a jffs image on 
> loopback and copy them across. The only thing I can suggest for the 
> illume problem (clock,battery,signal widgets) is that you run illume 
> config and disable and enable them until it looks right...
>
> -Nick
>
> Benedikt Schindler wrote:
>   
>> hi,
>>
>> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
>> problem yet?
>>
>> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
>> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
>> isn't solved yet.
>> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
>>
>> But now i don't have any desktop icons.
>>
>> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
>> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
>>
>> some ideas?
>>
>> thx beni
>>
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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread John Lee
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:33:09PM -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 you wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
> > problem yet?

My last comments in #2071, but not the same bug it seems.

> > 
> > i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
> > I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
> > isn't solved yet.
> > so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
> > 
> > But now i don't have any desktop icons.
> 

> I'm in the same boat as you there.  Can anyone even shed any light
> on what the cause of this is?  I don't mind a little debugging but
> it's a bit over my head I don't even know where to start.
>
> Also, is active development (or building from git or whatever)
> happening in the 'testing' instead of 'unstable' ?  If that's the
> case then I misunderstood the purposes of the feeds and should have
> went with stable.

active development happening in unstable.  This illume issue should
not be there in the first place.

> > also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
> > i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
> 
> I fixed this by removing and reinstalling illume-theme-asu, and then 
> installing illume-theme-illume (I believe this is also necessary in order to 
> get the illume keyboard I like, but it also fixed the problem with all those 
> little icons being squished into the same place and tiny.)

- John

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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread nickd
Icons are also kept in /usr/share/applications so mount a jffs image on 
loopback and copy them across. The only thing I can suggest for the 
illume problem (clock,battery,signal widgets) is that you run illume 
config and disable and enable them until it looks right...

-Nick

Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> hi,
>
> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
> problem yet?
>
> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
> isn't solved yet.
> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
>
> But now i don't have any desktop icons.
>
> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
>
> some ideas?
>
> thx beni
>
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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 03:33:04 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> hi,
>
> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon
> problem yet?
>
> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that
> isn't solved yet.
> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
>
> But now i don't have any desktop icons.
>
> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.
>

Testing broke for me so I switched to fso-testing, which now seems to be 
almost as good as om2008 testing, when it actually worked ;)

The facilities are no where near as comprehensive but I'm not fussed at this 
stage.

Sarton

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Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 you wrote:
> hi,
> 
> is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
> problem yet?
> 
> i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
> I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
> isn't solved yet.
> so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)
> 
> But now i don't have any desktop icons.

I'm in the same boat as you there.  Can anyone even shed any light on what the 
cause of this is?  I don't mind a little debugging but it's a bit over my head 
I don't even know where to start.

Also, is active development (or building from git or whatever) happening in the 
'testing' instead of 'unstable' ?  If that's the case then I misunderstood the 
purposes of the feeds and should have went with stable.

> also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
> i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.

I fixed this by removing and reinstalling illume-theme-asu, and then installing 
illume-theme-illume (I believe this is also necessary in order to get the 
illume keyboard I like, but it also fixed the problem with all those little 
icons being squished into the same place and tiny.)

> thx beni
> 
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[OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Benedikt Schindler
hi,

is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon 
problem yet?

i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages.
I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that 
isn't solved yet.
so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time)

But now i don't have any desktop icons.

also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now.
i restored the old "~/.e" directory but that didn't changed anything.

some ideas?

thx beni

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