Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi Radek Thanks for the dpkg output. For saving space you could install localepurge that saves 30MB if all locales except Locale-C are removed. neo1973-debian:~# localepurge localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 29877K localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 155K Total disk space freed by localepurge: 30032K and you should deinstall and purge all xserver-xorg-video packages except xserver-xorg-video-fbdev Greetings Alex On 2009-07-08 Radek Polak wrote: Alexander Syring wrote: Hi Radek Could you poste a 'dpkg --get-selections ' output from freerunner? And what about to install busybox on rootfs? Hi Alexander, yes busybox could save some space. This is good idea. Output is attachment. Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Alexander Syring wrote: For saving space you could install localepurge that saves 30MB if all locales except Locale-C are removed. neo1973-debian:~# localepurge localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 29877K localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 155K Total disk space freed by localepurge: 30032K and you should deinstall and purge all xserver-xorg-video packages except xserver-xorg-video-fbdev Hi Alexander, great tips, this is exactly what i need. Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
giacomo giotti mariani wrote: Hello everyone, I'm now trying the distro in object on SD (with a swapfile instead of a swap partition). Hi Giacomo, thanks for testing it It works very well, but I have a pair of questions: -how can I add x application to the QX menu? Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add configuration file and GUI for it in next version. -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get? I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i havent tried. Thank you very much for your great work! Nice to hear this :) Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hello everyone, I'm now trying the distro in object on SD (with a swapfile instead of a swap partition). Hi Giacomo, thanks for testing it It's a pleasure! It works very well, but I have a pair of questions: -how can I add x application to the QX menu? Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add configuration file and GUI for it in next version. It would be great! Another two questions concerning QX: -is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but couldn't play without some input method so... -it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no result (always No protocol specified \n x2x - error: can not open display :0.0). -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get? I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i havent tried. I ask it because I'd like to know how much is the battery fill (as in the old Qt... versions). Thank you very much for your great work! Nice to hear this :) Radek :-) -- /_\ The ASCII Per comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi On 2009-07-08 giacomo giotti mariani wrote: Hello everyone, I'm now trying the distro in object on SD (with a swapfile instead of a swap partition). Hi Giacomo, thanks for testing it It's a pleasure! It works very well, but I have a pair of questions: -how can I add x application to the QX menu? Right now i have hardcoded buttons for tango and scummvm. I can add configuration file and GUI for it in next version. It would be great! Another two questions concerning QX: -is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but couldn't play without some input method so... -it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no result (always No protocol specified \n x2x - error: can not open display :0.0). -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get? I dont know never tried it. Qtopia handles suspending well for me, so i havent tried. I ask it because I'd like to know how much is the battery fill (as in the old Qt... versions). You should install apm and you see the battery fill. install with apt-get install apm Thank you very much for your great work! Nice to hear this :) Radek :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Giacomo Giotti wrote: Another two questions concerning QX: -is it possible to use some kind of keyboard? I installed nethack but couldn't play without some input method so... I will try to put some keyboard for next release. -it it possible to use x2x when using X application? I tried but with no result (always No protocol specified \n x2x - error: can not open display :0.0). I get this error when trying to run applications outside Qtopia. If you run it from Qtopia Terminal it should be ok. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi Radek Could you poste a 'dpkg --get-selections ' output from freerunner? And what about to install busybox on rootfs? Greetings Alex On 2009-07-07 Radek Polak wrote: HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X?? Hi HouYu, no it's the same binary. The difference is in rootfs. You only need to make Qtopia and X running at the same time (i start qpe from .xinitrc). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Alexander Syring wrote: Hi Radek Could you poste a 'dpkg --get-selections ' output from freerunner? And what about to install busybox on rootfs? Hi Alexander, yes busybox could save some space. This is good idea. Output is attachment. Thanks Radek adduser install alsa-utils install apt install base-files install base-passwd install bashinstall bluez-utils install bsdutilsinstall ca-certificates install coreutils install cpp install cpp-4.3 install dbusinstall debconf install debconf-i18ninstall debian-archive-keyring install debianutils install defoma install diffinstall dosfstools install dpkginstall e2fslibsinstall e2fsprogs install fbset install fileinstall findutils install fontconfig install fontconfig-config install gcc-4.3-baseinstall gconf2-common install gnupg install gpgvinstall gpsdinstall grepinstall gzipinstall hostnameinstall ifupdowninstall initscripts install iputils-pinginstall klogd install ladcca2 install libacl1 install libasound2 install libatk1.0-0 install libattr1install libblkid1 install libbluetooth2 install libbz2-1.0 install libc6 install libcairo2 install libcomerr2 install libcups2install libcurl3-gnutls install libdatrie0 install libdb4.5install libdb4.6install libdbus-1-3 install libdirectfb-1.0-0 install libdrm2 install libedit2install libexpat1 install libflac8install libfluidsynth1 install libfontconfig1 install libfontenc1 install libfreetype6install libfs6 install libgcc1 install libgconf2-4 install libgcrypt11 install libgdbm3install libgl1-mesa-glx install libglib2.0-0install libgmp3c2 install libgnutls26 install libgpg-error0 install libgpm2 install libgps17install libgtk2.0-0 install libgtk2.0-commoninstall libhal1 install libice6 install libidl0 install libidn11install libiw29
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X?? Hi HouYu, no it's the same binary. The difference is in rootfs. You only need to make Qtopia and X running at the same time (i start qpe from .xinitrc). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Thanks. I will v4 on FSO is coming.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X?? Hi HouYu, no it's the same binary. The difference is in rootfs. You only need to make Qtopia and X running at the same time (i start qpe from .xinitrc). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hello everyone, I'm now trying the distro in object on SD (with a swapfile instead of a swap partition). It works very well, but I have a pair of questions: -how can I add x application to the QX menu? -I can't find apm (nor acpi), can I install it with apt-get? Thank you very much for your great work! Giacomo -- /_\ The ASCII Per comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi, i am just uploading new QtMoko images that are based on debian and that now support running X application from Qtopia. You can download from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/uImage-x4.bin http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz MD5 sums: f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-x4.bin f475d010bc020b9290d7c07b54584860 qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 feb42b7f9e1881bdcea9799edd8e4dce qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz Changes from previous version: - images are called x4 (because of X windows support), images without X will be called v4 - logging should now work - better UI speed - rotation should work - apt-get should work out of the box - new application QX which is used as launcher for X applications - included tangogps and scummvm - /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounts to /media/card now and /dev/mmcblk0p4 as swap. X applications: I have howto [1] for building QtMoko debian rootfs so some details are there. As I said you have to use QX launcher which will allow you to start X application in fullscreen. You can exit the application when you press the touchscreen for 5 seconds. The application will be then paused and you can either kill it or continue. The support for switching tasks between Qtopia and X application is still missing. If you have problems with X applications on first boot, reboot should fix it. You should also have swap enabled because there is not much memory left when running Qtopia and X application side by side. QtMoko defaultly counts with swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 (4th primary partition on your SD card). Btw as you can see the images are getting really big now. I will work on this but i would be glad for any help in this area. If you take a look what takes most of the space then we have this list: 1/ Kernel modules - i use packaging config so that we can use both Qi and uboot. But packaging modules take 30MB space. So we probably need slimmer config. Any ideas? 2/ Python - i would prefer to get rid of this package. Takes like 10+ megabytes. It's dependency for alsa-utils package - which is bug (or relict from old times) in debian (and should be fixed in next debian). We can either use custom or newer alsa-utils. 3/ Perl - i guess we cant get rid of this one. 4/ Locales - how to get rid of locales that are not needed? 5/ cc1 - do we need compiler as default package in phone? So i will be glad for comments and maybe tips for other useful applications and also for tips how to make the images smaller. Cheers Radek PS: going to sleep, images should be there in like 2 hours. [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/debian_rootfs_howto.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X?? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i am just uploading new QtMoko images that are based on debian and that now support running X application from Qtopia. You can download from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/uImage-x4.bin http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz MD5 sums: f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-x4.bin f475d010bc020b9290d7c07b54584860 qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 feb42b7f9e1881bdcea9799edd8e4dce qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz Changes from previous version: - images are called x4 (because of X windows support), images without X will be called v4 - logging should now work - better UI speed - rotation should work - apt-get should work out of the box - new application QX which is used as launcher for X applications - included tangogps and scummvm - /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounts to /media/card now and /dev/mmcblk0p4 as swap. X applications: I have howto [1] for building QtMoko debian rootfs so some details are there. As I said you have to use QX launcher which will allow you to start X application in fullscreen. You can exit the application when you press the touchscreen for 5 seconds. The application will be then paused and you can either kill it or continue. The support for switching tasks between Qtopia and X application is still missing. If you have problems with X applications on first boot, reboot should fix it. You should also have swap enabled because there is not much memory left when running Qtopia and X application side by side. QtMoko defaultly counts with swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 (4th primary partition on your SD card). Btw as you can see the images are getting really big now. I will work on this but i would be glad for any help in this area. If you take a look what takes most of the space then we have this list: 1/ Kernel modules - i use packaging config so that we can use both Qi and uboot. But packaging modules take 30MB space. So we probably need slimmer config. Any ideas? 2/ Python - i would prefer to get rid of this package. Takes like 10+ megabytes. It's dependency for alsa-utils package - which is bug (or relict from old times) in debian (and should be fixed in next debian). We can either use custom or newer alsa-utils. 3/ Perl - i guess we cant get rid of this one. 4/ Locales - how to get rid of locales that are not needed? 5/ cc1 - do we need compiler as default package in phone? So i will be glad for comments and maybe tips for other useful applications and also for tips how to make the images smaller. Cheers Radek PS: going to sleep, images should be there in like 2 hours. [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/debian_rootfs_howto.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
