[QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Joif

Hi, I'm a new neo freerunner user, I installed Qtmoko v16B on the NAND. 
I have few questions:
1) From http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/
You should have FAT as first partition and swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4. Can be
changed in /etc/fstab
It is necessary to create a swap partion on the SD if I use Qtmoko on the
NAND?
2) I prefer that GPS, bluetooth and wifi don't start automatically at the
boot, wich file I have to edit to do that?
3) In movement writing sms with the default keyboards is not comfortable (my
fingers are large :P ), I prefer to use the tipical phone keyboard used in
the dialer or to insert the PIN of the SIM card. Is it possible to use this
keyboard (maybe with prediction) for sms? how to change the prediction file?
4) it seems to me that the 'rotation' stretches the image on screen, is
there another app to rotate the screen without stretch maybe using the
accelerometers?
5) are web browser and arora able to read web pages with java and/or
flash?
6) For downloadig apps is there a particular repository to add? 
7) issues with v16b: after a suspend the devtools do not work properly,
it's impossible to turn on GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and also the bar at the
bottom of the screen (with the menu and green arrow) doesn't work properly
(clicking the green arrow open or close the menu instead of turning back, I
have to click more time to turn back). the devtools and bar seem to work
again after some attempts.
thank you!

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Radek Polak
Joif wrote:

 Hi, I'm a new neo freerunner user, I installed Qtmoko v16B on the NAND.

Hi :)

 I have few questions:
 1) It is necessary to create a swap partion on the SD if I use Qtmoko on the
 NAND?

No it's not necessary, but it can help if you are using some memory hungry 
apps.

 2) I prefer that GPS, bluetooth and wifi don't start automatically at the
 boot, wich file I have to edit to do that?

You can add in /etc/inid.d/qpe.sh

echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on
echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on

Maybe you'll have to power them on manually from the devel menu then.

 3) In movement writing sms with the default keyboards is not comfortable
  (my fingers are large :P ), I prefer to use the tipical phone keyboard
  used in the dialer or to insert the PIN of the SIM card. Is it possible to
  use this keyboard (maybe with prediction) for sms? how to change the
  prediction file?

The keyboards should work like plugins. It should be quite easy to write 
better keyboard. Maybe i'll try to write something usable soon. Not sure about 
the prediction...

  4) it seems to me that the 'rotation' stretches the image
  on screen, is there another app to rotate the screen without stretch maybe
  using the accelerometers?

I am not aware of such app. Please note that some apps like Arora can 
autorotate the screen using accelerometers automatically.

 5) are web browser and arora able to read web pages with java and/or
 flash?

Probably not.

 6) For downloadig apps is there a particular repository to add?

The official repo should be already setup in software packages menu. There are 
about 15 apps there. I am not aware of any other repo.

 7) issues with v16b: after a suspend the devtools do not work properly,
 it's impossible to turn on GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and also the bar at the
 bottom of the screen (with the menu and green arrow) doesn't work properly
 (clicking the green arrow open or close the menu instead of turning back, I
 have to click more time to turn back). the devtools and bar seem to work
 again after some attempts.

The green arrow in menu is some bug in QT 4.6 Dead bluetooth after suspend is 
long known problem, but Wifi and GPS should survive suspends just fine. Maybe 
you can cat the above sysfs files from ssh to see what is happening. Also 
/etc/inid.d/bluetooth restart can help some.

Regards

Radek

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Margo
2010/1/17 Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it:

 7) issues with v16b: after a suspend the devtools do not work properly,
 it's impossible to turn on GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and also the bar at the
 bottom of the screen (with the menu and green arrow) doesn't work properly
 (clicking the green arrow open or close the menu instead of turning back, I
 have to click more time to turn back). the devtools and bar seem to work
 again after some attempts.
 thank you!


Hi,
I also have some problems with v16b version of qtmoko.
1) can't connect to wifi using the internet settings menu. First it
said Wireless LAN unavailable and there was no WLAN detection
option in the menu. After many reboots it said Wireless LAN offline
(as it should) and it found my network but didn't connect (just said
connecting for a while and then said not connected). It did work
in some of the earlier versions of qtmoko. But I can connect to wifi
from command line with ifconfig usb0 down ; iwconfig eth0 essid
my_essid ; udhcpc eth0 (although the udhcpc command takes very long
time to get the IP).
2) when trying to delete a configured connection from the internet
settings menu, the phone hangs and I have to pull out the battery.
3) the battery level indicator acts weird. Sometimes it shows as it is
charging even if the battery is full. Sometimes after restart it shows
as the battery is full even if it is maybe only 10%. Sometimes when
charging, it doesn't show that it is charging and cat
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/status says not charging but
actually it does charge because after some time the battery is full.
4) bluetooth doesn't work after suspend-resume. But I think the same
issue was in all of the earlier versions too and it is an old and
known bug.
5) on incoming call the phone only rings a few times and then just vibrates.

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Joif

thanks for the answer!


Radek Polak wrote:
 
 1) It is necessary to create a swap partion on the SD if I use Qtmoko on
 the
 NAND?
 
 No it's not necessary, but it can help if you are using some memory hungry 
 apps.
 
and what about its dimension and file system (ext2?)? I have a 8 GB Kingston
uSD.


Radek Polak wrote:
 
 2) I prefer that GPS, bluetooth and wifi don't start automatically at the
 boot, wich file I have to edit to do that?
 
 You can add in /etc/inid.d/qpe.sh
 
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on
 echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
 
 Maybe you'll have to power them on manually from the devel menu then.
 
this is exactly what I want :) 
but in case the devtools do not work what are the commands for turning on
all this stuff?
EDIT: it seems that a more determined click on the icon make the devtools
work :D

Ah, I forgot another issue: yesterday I sent a long sms but receiving an
error every time I tried to send it, but the recipient received correctly
this sms every time. Also, this recipient sent to me a long sms too but I
didn't receive it (tried to reboot but nothing).

lastest question (for now :) ): is there a possibility to use MMS?

thank you!

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Joif


Radek Polak wrote:
 
 2) I prefer that GPS, bluetooth and wifi don't start automatically at the
 boot, wich file I have to edit to do that?
 
 You can add in /etc/inid.d/qpe.sh
 
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on
 echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
 
 Maybe you'll have to power them on manually from the devel menu then.
 

mh wifi is off, bluetooth is still running and I don't know about GPS,
NeronGPS don't tell me if the GPS is on or off.
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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Radek Polak
Margo wrote:

 I also have some problems with v16b version of qtmoko.
 1) can't connect to wifi using the internet settings menu. First it
 said Wireless LAN unavailable and there was no WLAN detection
 option in the menu. After many reboots it said Wireless LAN offline
 (as it should) and it found my network but didn't connect (just said
 connecting for a while and then said not connected). It did work
 in some of the earlier versions of qtmoko. But I can connect to wifi
 from command line with ifconfig usb0 down ; iwconfig eth0 essid
 my_essid ; udhcpc eth0 (although the udhcpc command takes very long
 time to get the IP).

It's probably kernel related to disabled preempt. The patch already exits. You 
can either use older kernel or wait for me to make new one :)

 2) when trying to delete a configured connection from the internet
 settings menu, the phone hangs and I have to pull out the battery.

Fixed in git and will be in next release.

 3) the battery level indicator acts weird. Sometimes it shows as it is
 charging even if the battery is full. Sometimes after restart it shows
 as the battery is full even if it is maybe only 10%. Sometimes when
 charging, it doesn't show that it is charging and cat
 /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status says not charging but
 actually it does charge because after some time the battery is full.

Can be also related to kernel config.

 4) bluetooth doesn't work after suspend-resume. But I think the same
 issue was in all of the earlier versions too and it is an old and
 known bug.

Yes

 5) on incoming call the phone only rings a few times and then just
  vibrates.

If it wasnt in previous version, then it's again kernel config related.

Thanks for reports

Radek

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Radek Polak
Joif wrote:

 EDIT: it seems that a more determined click on the icon make the devtools
 work :D

I plan better feedback, but it's on very long list :)
 
 Ah, I forgot another issue: yesterday I sent a long sms but receiving an
 error every time I tried to send it, but the recipient received correctly
 this sms every time. Also, this recipient sent to me a long sms too but I
 didn't receive it (tried to reboot but nothing).

Seems that there is something wrong how Qtopia handles long SMS messages. Any 
help welcome :)

 lastest question (for now :) ): is there a possibility to use MMS?

MMS settings are there but havent tried if it works.

Regards

Radek

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Re: [QtMoko] QtMoko v16B, few questions and issues

2010-01-17 Thread Yoric Kotchukov

Wish: ability to copy from the Notes etc, and inserts in Dialer etc.

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Thank you for your attention.
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