Re: [QtMoko v26] online via GPRS
On 09/18/2010 06:40 PM, Marcel Meyer wrote: > * "on demand" does not seem to work. When I use NeronGPS and a map is missing, > it seems as GPRS _tries_ to get online but that's all ;-) > I never tested "on demand" mode. Now i see that there is a bug in original qtopia. When pppd is started in "ondemand" mode its not opening serial port (as designed). QPE expects its to be open and start to write to the closed tty and hangs. Bug is somewhere inside QPE pppd manager, if i will have some free time i will fix it, it is trivial (e.g. - by initing serial port before running pppd). There are 2 other related bugs: 1) Default gateway is already set to 192.168.0.200 (usb), so traffic never comes to pppd. as far as i remember - linux support weight for the gateways, so fix is also trivial, but will require some work. Another bug is related to indicator - it doesnt work correctly in "on demand" mode, showing irrelevant status. Probably also not too hard to fix. > * Staying online over a longer period of time seems to lead to a complete > failure of the GPRS-stack so that I have to reboot the Neo to be able to get > online again. > I believe that this was fixed by me - GPRS session used the same ID numbers as Voice calls. I found that when fixed voice calls with active GPRS. Patch is done and probably will be in next qtmoko release. > * Choosing "always on" leads to the phone trying to get online after booting > and then hangs on the QtMoko-startscreen (after entering the PIN) when it > tries to get online. > See above. May be i will fix this, but not sure if i will have a free time. Fix is trivial, looks like nobody tested "ondemand" mode at all, bug is inside QPE core. GPRS Status fix may be will get some more time, i`m not really understand how this indicators works :) But i`m afraid "ondemand" mode, especially if i`m in roaming :) > * I meanwhile managed to immediately switch to the internet settings after > rebooting the phone (hard-reset) and deactivate the GPRS-connection before > QtMoko managed to get online. > You can ssh to the phone, delete default route (route delete default), add ppp0 as defroute (route add default ppp0) and ping any host - pppd will open port and system will be alive again :) If you want to test the fix - write me to samm at os2.kiev.ua and i will send you modified libs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko v26] online via GPRS
On 09/19/2010 02:53 AM, Brian Kemp wrote: >> P.S. I believe that some of the problem are related to openmoko >> multiplexer, but a lot of them - to the ancient modem with first >> generation gprs. I`m now trying to get qtmoko running with external >> demuxer, to see if it will improve the situation. >> > I wonder if that may explain why I have never been able to authenticate > successfully to AT&T's GPRS network here in the states (maybe they're > blacklisting older hardware?) > > I'm also having trouble translating their network settings information > to what QtMoko accepts. > > If anyone's gotten it to work, I'd love to know what you did. I can > supply the connection settings if that helps. > Please provide connection settings and the log file (/var/log/messages) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko v26] online via GPRS
> P.S. I believe that some of the problem are related to openmoko > multiplexer, but a lot of them - to the ancient modem with first > generation gprs. I`m now trying to get qtmoko running with external > demuxer, to see if it will improve the situation. I wonder if that may explain why I have never been able to authenticate successfully to AT&T's GPRS network here in the states (maybe they're blacklisting older hardware?) I'm also having trouble translating their network settings information to what QtMoko accepts. If anyone's gotten it to work, I'd love to know what you did. I can supply the connection settings if that helps. --Brian Kemp brian.k...@gmail.com PGP Key fingerprint: 1E5BF363 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko v26] online via GPRS
On 09/18/2010 06:40 PM, Marcel Meyer wrote: > Hi, > > I tried QtMoko in it's latest incarnation as the changelog said the GPRS- > handling got improved :-) . I stumbled upon the following things: > > It was a minor fix with adding +++ to the chat script. Not too much, but helps in some cases. > * In the chat file there is a " missing at the end of the first line. So you > always have to edit that file by hand after you opened the settings in the > GUI. > > Known problem, see Radek posts, fixed in git. > * "on demand" does not seem to work. When I use NeronGPS and a map is missing, > it seems as GPRS _tries_ to get online but that's all ;-) > > Needs to be checked, but for me its very low priority. > * Staying online over a longer period of time seems to lead to a complete > failure of the GPRS-stack so that I have to reboot the Neo to be able to get > online again. > Yes, it happens some time. You don`t need to reboot the NEO btw, restarting qtmoko should help. > * Choosing "always on" leads to the phone trying to get online after booting > and then hangs on the QtMoko-startscreen (after entering the PIN) when it > tries to get online. > I don`t think that "always on" is a good idea for qtmoko. First generation GPRS and voice works very bad together. I`m recommending to switch it off when not used. > * Starting the phone without SIM does not work. After trying to switch to the > GUI it just stays on a black screen. I tried that to prevent the phone going > online. > Non gprs related :) > * I meanwhile managed to immediately switch to the internet settings after > rebooting the phone (hard-reset) and deactivate the GPRS-connection before > QtMoko managed to get online. > Its very easy to do by removing chat script using SSH connection to the phone. P.S. I believe that some of the problem are related to openmoko multiplexer, but a lot of them - to the ancient modem with first generation gprs. I`m now trying to get qtmoko running with external demuxer, to see if it will improve the situation. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko v26] online via GPRS
Hi, I tried QtMoko in it's latest incarnation as the changelog said the GPRS- handling got improved :-) . I stumbled upon the following things: * In the chat file there is a " missing at the end of the first line. So you always have to edit that file by hand after you opened the settings in the GUI. * "on demand" does not seem to work. When I use NeronGPS and a map is missing, it seems as GPRS _tries_ to get online but that's all ;-) * Staying online over a longer period of time seems to lead to a complete failure of the GPRS-stack so that I have to reboot the Neo to be able to get online again. * Choosing "always on" leads to the phone trying to get online after booting and then hangs on the QtMoko-startscreen (after entering the PIN) when it tries to get online. * Starting the phone without SIM does not work. After trying to switch to the GUI it just stays on a black screen. I tried that to prevent the phone going online. * I meanwhile managed to immediately switch to the internet settings after rebooting the phone (hard-reset) and deactivate the GPRS-connection before QtMoko managed to get online. Greetings, Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
