Re: [SHR-U] Transparent qwo

2009-08-20 Thread Dan Staley
Thanks for all your help!

I actually do not have a toolchain set up  (though in the coming months I
plan to set one up).
If you wouldn't mind updating the SHR-U feed to the latest unstable, I would
be more than happy to test it out for you =).
I think transparent keyboards in illume is certainly something that we have
needed for a long time

(PS.  I kept trying to send this email directly to you, but your
mailer-daemon keeps rejecting because it already has my Delivered-To line.
(#5.4.6).)

Thanks again,
-Dan Staley



On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Richard Kralovic 
richard.kralo...@dcs.fmph.uniba.sk wrote:

 Hello,

 I have just figured out that the illume package (e-wm) is missing in the
 FSO-milestone 5 feeds (no idea why, sorry, it was a long time ago I
 played with that), but it is available in the other feeds. So, you can
 try to download and install the ipk directly from:


 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~riso/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr39659-r4_armv4t.ipkhttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Eriso/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr39659-r4_armv4t.ipk

 or


 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~riso/shr/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_armv4t.ipkhttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Eriso/shr/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_armv4t.ipk

 However, these packages are really old, and I would be surprised if they
 worked smoothly with recent SHR unstable.  The best way would be to
 recompile shr with the patch. If you can not to that yourself, let me
 know and I'll update the binary feeds on my webpage to recent SHR-U (but
  I'll probably not have time to test it on my FR...)

 Greets
Richard


 Dan Staley wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I tried following the instructions on your page for getting the
  transparent qwo to work but am having trouble with the illume part.
  I cant seem to figure out which package in your feed you are referring
  to when you say you have a patched version of illume in your feed.
  I grepped through them, but didnt see anything but what appeared to be
  themes to illumeis that where the patch was applied?
  If you could point me to the package that has the patched illume
  version, I would love to try out the transparent qwo on an up to date
 SHR-U.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  -Dan Staley
 
  On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk
  mailto:r...@om.ksp.sk wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I am using transparent qwo, but I haven't upgraded my FR since I
 wrote
  the instructions (it's on my todo list, but... :-) ). So, I am not
 very
  sure about the current state of packages, but to the best of my
  knowledge, situation is as follows:
 
  1) 2) Nobody maintains Xglamo, last commit at git.openmoko.org
  http://git.openmoko.org was 7
  months ago. Glamo driver for xorg is under active development, so
 maybe
  it just works by now. Nevertheless, the patch on Xglamo was accepted
 to
  SHR quite long time ago, so if you use SHR+Xglamo, part of my patch
  should be included. (It is the part that fixes crashing; the second
 part
  of the patch that improves motion event handling has not been
 included
  afaik).
 
  3) No idea if the composite extension is enabled by default in any
  distribution, but this is just a configuration issue...
 
  4) Xcompmgr is in openembedded, but I do not know if the binary is
  provided by the standard opkg feeds of any distribution.
 
  5) You do not really have to patch qwo; an alternative is to use
  transset utility to set the transparency manually. However, the patch
  improves usability significantly imho. The transparency patch has not
  been accepted upstream yet. (Actually, last commit to qwo git
 repository
  is from 28 May).
 
  6) I am not aware of any inclusions of the illume patch anywhere.
 
  Greets
 Richard
 
 
  Dan Staley wrote:
   I really like the idea of qwo and want to try out the transparent
   version mentioned at [1].
   However, the instructions were written months ago, and involve
  patching
   xglamo and illume...so I am hesitant to try given that the changes
 may
   not be relevant as the packages may have changed (perhaps even
   implemented the patches!).
  
   Given that literki seems to be very quick and handles transparency
  very
   well, has anyone recently tried a transparent qwo?  If so, are the
   patches and install process at [1] still applicable?
   If soare there any plans to merge the patches in so that a
   transparent binary of qwo could be provided?
  
   Thanks in advance,
   -Dan Staley
  
   [1] 
  http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/
  http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/
  
  
  
 
 
  
   

Re: [SHR-U] Transparent qwo

2009-08-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/13 Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.com

 Given that literki seems to be very quick and handles transparency very
 well, has anyone recently tried a transparent qwo?


The transparency in literki is something different. It's only a shaped
window. I don't know if it's possible to use alpha blending yet.
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Re: [SHR-U] Transparent qwo

2009-08-14 Thread Richard Kralovic
Hello,

I am using transparent qwo, but I haven't upgraded my FR since I wrote
the instructions (it's on my todo list, but... :-) ). So, I am not very
sure about the current state of packages, but to the best of my
knowledge, situation is as follows:

1) 2) Nobody maintains Xglamo, last commit at git.openmoko.org was 7
months ago. Glamo driver for xorg is under active development, so maybe
it just works by now. Nevertheless, the patch on Xglamo was accepted to
SHR quite long time ago, so if you use SHR+Xglamo, part of my patch
should be included. (It is the part that fixes crashing; the second part
of the patch that improves motion event handling has not been included
afaik).

3) No idea if the composite extension is enabled by default in any
distribution, but this is just a configuration issue...

4) Xcompmgr is in openembedded, but I do not know if the binary is
provided by the standard opkg feeds of any distribution.

5) You do not really have to patch qwo; an alternative is to use
transset utility to set the transparency manually. However, the patch
improves usability significantly imho. The transparency patch has not
been accepted upstream yet. (Actually, last commit to qwo git repository
is from 28 May).

6) I am not aware of any inclusions of the illume patch anywhere.

Greets
Richard


Dan Staley wrote:
 I really like the idea of qwo and want to try out the transparent
 version mentioned at [1].
 However, the instructions were written months ago, and involve patching
 xglamo and illume...so I am hesitant to try given that the changes may
 not be relevant as the packages may have changed (perhaps even
 implemented the patches!).
 
 Given that literki seems to be very quick and handles transparency very
 well, has anyone recently tried a transparent qwo?  If so, are the
 patches and install process at [1] still applicable?
 If soare there any plans to merge the patches in so that a
 transparent binary of qwo could be provided?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 -Dan Staley
 
 [1] http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/
 
 
 
 
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Re: [SHR-U] Transparent qwo

2009-08-14 Thread Dan Staley
Thanks for the reply!
I may give it a try when I get the time and I'll report back how it goes.


-Dan

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk wrote:

 Hello,

 I am using transparent qwo, but I haven't upgraded my FR since I wrote
 the instructions (it's on my todo list, but... :-) ). So, I am not very
 sure about the current state of packages, but to the best of my
 knowledge, situation is as follows:

 1) 2) Nobody maintains Xglamo, last commit at git.openmoko.org was 7
 months ago. Glamo driver for xorg is under active development, so maybe
 it just works by now. Nevertheless, the patch on Xglamo was accepted to
 SHR quite long time ago, so if you use SHR+Xglamo, part of my patch
 should be included. (It is the part that fixes crashing; the second part
 of the patch that improves motion event handling has not been included
 afaik).

 3) No idea if the composite extension is enabled by default in any
 distribution, but this is just a configuration issue...

 4) Xcompmgr is in openembedded, but I do not know if the binary is
 provided by the standard opkg feeds of any distribution.

 5) You do not really have to patch qwo; an alternative is to use
 transset utility to set the transparency manually. However, the patch
 improves usability significantly imho. The transparency patch has not
 been accepted upstream yet. (Actually, last commit to qwo git repository
 is from 28 May).

 6) I am not aware of any inclusions of the illume patch anywhere.

 Greets
Richard


 Dan Staley wrote:
  I really like the idea of qwo and want to try out the transparent
  version mentioned at [1].
  However, the instructions were written months ago, and involve patching
  xglamo and illume...so I am hesitant to try given that the changes may
  not be relevant as the packages may have changed (perhaps even
  implemented the patches!).
 
  Given that literki seems to be very quick and handles transparency very
  well, has anyone recently tried a transparent qwo?  If so, are the
  patches and install process at [1] still applicable?
  If soare there any plans to merge the patches in so that a
  transparent binary of qwo could be provided?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  -Dan Staley
 
  [1] 
  http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/
 
 
  
 
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[SHR-U] Transparent qwo

2009-08-13 Thread Dan Staley
I really like the idea of qwo and want to try out the transparent version
mentioned at [1].
However, the instructions were written months ago, and involve patching
xglamo and illume...so I am hesitant to try given that the changes may not
be relevant as the packages may have changed (perhaps even implemented the
patches!).

Given that literki seems to be very quick and handles transparency very
well, has anyone recently tried a transparent qwo?  If so, are the patches
and install process at [1] still applicable?
If soare there any plans to merge the patches in so that a transparent
binary of qwo could be provided?

Thanks in advance,
-Dan Staley

[1] http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/
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