Re: [shr] feature request - power
I'm totally agree: a more simple on/off (big) button should be more: - quick - stable during moving/walking - power-safing Yes, sliding buttons are cool, but not really functional using Neo as daily phone. 2009/5/22 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au I think the point is that sliders suck: 1. they are very hard to use - unless you have fingers as thin as a stylus. Especially the ones that go close to the screen edge. 2. They are impossible to use whilst walking. 4. They take too long to operate - seem to use a lot of processing as they hang for a few seconds part way until the display settles. Basicly, sliders are inappropriate for digital (on/off) values - thats what radio buttons are for. And yes I would love to have the time to figure out how the opaque mess that is e works so I can fix these HCI disasters, at least for myself ... BillK On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 16:19 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: thanks for that link. sent it on its merry way On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 20 May 2009 06:56:14 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: not sure if this is the right area for feature requests but in getting frustrated. under settings power the suspend sliders are silly small and the sliding action rarely responds to your finger movements. i request that the sliders either become larger and more centralized in the menu or convert it to on off switchs. i switch this feature multiple times a day and its getting annoying having to try to set it over and over waiting for it to work properly. thanks! keep up the good work though. everything else is a.o.k! Agreed, but I think you might do better opening a ticket here http://trac.shr- project.org/trac for bug reports and feature requests -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
thats better. more explanation to a reason is vastly better than just saying... make your own theme. its not entirely the thinness of the buttons but the overall process of actually switching it. ive tried all the settings in elementary in regards to finger scrolling and nothing seems to improve the feedback or responsiveness of dragging that little switch. even on different versions of shr, i personally believe it would just be simplier as a on/off toggle. maybe thats just me? i would think that would not require a rebuild of a theme, just what icon is displayed for the setting. if its an issue no one else cares about then could you point me in the direction of how to just switch that UI element to a button rather then a slider. right now i have no idea how most of the ui coding is acheived. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
I think the point is that sliders suck: 1. they are very hard to use - unless you have fingers as thin as a stylus. Especially the ones that go close to the screen edge. 2. They are impossible to use whilst walking. 4. They take too long to operate - seem to use a lot of processing as they hang for a few seconds part way until the display settles. Basicly, sliders are inappropriate for digital (on/off) values - thats what radio buttons are for. And yes I would love to have the time to figure out how the opaque mess that is e works so I can fix these HCI disasters, at least for myself ... BillK On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 16:19 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
On Thu, 21 May 2009 16:19:41 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) Question: I've played around with a new Elementary theme, but still don't know the 'right' way to enable it - All I've been able to do is replace /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj. If I add (for instance) /usr/share/elementary/themes/serenity.edj, how do I cause it to be used? The theme selection in E config only seems to affect the main E/Illume theme used. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] feature request - power
not sure if this is the right area for feature requests but in getting frustrated. under settings power the suspend sliders are silly small and the sliding action rarely responds to your finger movements. i request that the sliders either become larger and more centralized in the menu or convert it to on off switchs. i switch this feature multiple times a day and its getting annoying having to try to set it over and over waiting for it to work properly. thanks! keep up the good work though. everything else is a.o.k! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 06:56:14 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: not sure if this is the right area for feature requests but in getting frustrated. under settings power the suspend sliders are silly small and the sliding action rarely responds to your finger movements. i request that the sliders either become larger and more centralized in the menu or convert it to on off switchs. i switch this feature multiple times a day and its getting annoying having to try to set it over and over waiting for it to work properly. thanks! keep up the good work though. everything else is a.o.k! Agreed, but I think you might do better opening a ticket here http://trac.shr- project.org/trac for bug reports and feature requests -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
thanks for that link. sent it on its merry way On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 20 May 2009 06:56:14 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: not sure if this is the right area for feature requests but in getting frustrated. under settings power the suspend sliders are silly small and the sliding action rarely responds to your finger movements. i request that the sliders either become larger and more centralized in the menu or convert it to on off switchs. i switch this feature multiple times a day and its getting annoying having to try to set it over and over waiting for it to work properly. thanks! keep up the good work though. everything else is a.o.k! Agreed, but I think you might do better opening a ticket here http://trac.shr- project.org/trac for bug reports and feature requests -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
