Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-18 Thread Benito
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 13:55 (+0200), Benito wrote:
 I think I'll try that 3-ring-adapter sold by handynow.de (link 4) and
 post my experience to this thread later.

Short update, in case somebody is waiting: The adaptors arrived but they
have only 2 rings and don't fit well to the freerunner (stereo-sound
only with fiddling). I've asked for replacement and am waiting for an
answer now.

At the moment ordering this adaptor isn't recommendable.


 Bye,
 /Ben

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-17 Thread Michael Shiloh


Timo Jyrinki wrote:
 2008/8/15 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hereby confirmed. Mine arrived today and works perfectly. Thanks for the
 hint! :)
 
 No prob :)
 
 Is there already a page for this or shall I create some table on the Headset
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset) page?
 
 That's probably fine. I went ahead and added a table there now.


Excellent. This is perfect. If anyone has a distributor in the USA, 
please list, and I'll try one out and report.

Thanks Timo and Marcel,

Michael

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-16 Thread Michael Shiloh


Marcel wrote:
 Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:
 2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my
 normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already
 have such a thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels
 where they ought to be)?
 See MP35A at http://pc-mobile.net/audioadapter.htm - I have a few of
 those and they work great. The shop looks terrible but shipped those
 alright.

 -Timo
 
 Hereby confirmed. Mine arrived today and works perfectly. Thanks for the 
 hint! :)

Please add this valuable info to the wiki. Please also mention what 
brand of normal headset you use and how the sound is.

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-16 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag 16 August 2008 21:38:39 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
 Marcel wrote:
  Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:
  2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my
  normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already
  have such a thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo
  channels where they ought to be)?
 
  See MP35A at http://pc-mobile.net/audioadapter.htm - I have a few of
  those and they work great. The shop looks terrible but shipped those
  alright.
 
  -Timo
 
  Hereby confirmed. Mine arrived today and works perfectly. Thanks for the
  hint! :)

 Please add this valuable info to the wiki. Please also mention what
 brand of normal headset you use and how the sound is.

 Thanks,
 Michael

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Is there already a page for this or shall I create some table on the Headset 
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset) page?

Marcel

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/8/15 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hereby confirmed. Mine arrived today and works perfectly. Thanks for the
 hint! :)

No prob :)

 Is there already a page for this or shall I create some table on the Headset
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset) page?

That's probably fine. I went ahead and added a table there now.

-Timo

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-15 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:
 2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my
  normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already
  have such a thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels
  where they ought to be)?

 See MP35A at http://pc-mobile.net/audioadapter.htm - I have a few of
 those and they work great. The shop looks terrible but shipped those
 alright.

 -Timo

Hereby confirmed. Mine arrived today and works perfectly. Thanks for the 
hint! :)

-Marcel

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Kelvie,

I wonder if you got it already... I placed an order but since I got
fascinated I also ordered some other things which weren't in stock --
thus I am waiting

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, Kelvie Wong wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  GREAT CATCH!

  are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please
  update the thread whenever you try it?


 Yep.. I ordered/it shipped exactly a week ago, so it should be here
 next week (shipping from Hong Kong usually takes about that long).
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-08 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
 imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from
 OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
 people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
 bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.

Yes, that and a USB host adapter. Possibly they could put that in the
accessories package (or if possible a new package, because I already
have the accessories)


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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
 imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture  
 from
 OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
 people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
 bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.


While we're on the subject, a USB Host/Device Y-cable or adapter would  
be good to include as well.  Come to think of it maybe there is a  
market for a 3rd party supplier to put together an accessory kit that  
extends the functionality of the FR beyond 'laser-pointer yielding'  
and into 'USB device medusa' ..

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale

I don't think that one works, it has to have 3 plastic rings on the 2.5
connector. this one will only give you mono IMO.

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
vale wrote:
 I don't think that one works, it has to have 3 plastic rings on the 2.5
 connector. this one will only give you mono IMO.

It needs only 2 plastic rings which means three contacts. The fourth
contact would be necessary for hands-free equipment with a microphone.
In case you just want to use it for earphones or line-out, the
microphone input contact is short-circuit to ground, which does not
matter at all because it is input.

Wolfgang.


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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale

yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R Channel won't
contact on the right place i think, but not sure. try it ;) i`m intresting
in finding the right adapter too.
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Selinger
 yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R
 Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure. try
 it ;) i`m intresting in finding the right adapter too.

I had one of those 2ring adapters on my MDA Compact which also has 4
contacts on it's 2.5 headset plug. Delivered me perfect stereo sound on
my 3.5 headphones. Can't guarantee that this also works on the FR
though, still waiting for mine.

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread elh
Hi,

 yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R 
 Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure.
I can confirm this. I've tried a stereo adapter from www.reichelt.de
(just enter NTA 230 in the left search field), and I was only getting
mono output. After that I cut the stereo connector from the adapter
and soldered a 4 pin one (KS K4-25 on reichelt.de) to the remaining
cable. This is now working as expected. Altough I have to say, the
2.5 plug doesn't sit in very tight, so it gets pulled out very easily.
Maybe next time I'll spend a little more money on the
plug (f.e. KS K4G-25).



regards
elh


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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Benito Torres
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:21 (+0200), elh wrote:
  yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R 
  Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure.
 I can confirm this. 

Me too. My cheap adaptor from the supermarket (Watson 9612, not found
online) has two rings and connects only one channel (right ear) if
plugged in tightly. When fiddling around and pulling it a bit out
there's one position in which both channels are connected, but this
isn't usable for real life.

On the other hand the wiki says, that the stereo audio adapter for
Motorola MPx200/E398 would work[1]. 

The original adaptor from Motorola has 3 rings[3]. According to this
picture[2], there're also variants with 2 rings, though. Those probably
won't serve for headsets but only for listening.

But to make it complicated I found an adaptor with 3 rings which,
according to the shop's description, yet needs to be unplugged in order
to make a call or answer the phone[4].

As a obvious conclusion this means, that not only the number of rings
but also their position is important. And/or that we might not trust
those webshop pictures too much. (Wow, what a result for one hour
research...)

I think I'll try that 3-ring-adapter sold by handynow.de (link 4) and
post my experience to this thread later.


Bye,
/Ben



[1] 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Buttons_and_connectors
[2] 
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/images/B000SO26JQ/sr=1-1/qid=1218106143/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=562066s=ce-deqid=1218106143sr=1-1
[3] http://www.discountcell.com/cellular/pn/Motorola_SKN6183
[4] http://www.handynow.de/handy-zubehoer/motorola-musikadapter.5325.html

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my normal
 headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already have such a
 thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels where they
 ought to be)?

See MP35A at http://pc-mobile.net/audioadapter.htm - I have a few of
those and they work great. The shop looks terrible but shipped those
alright.

-Timo

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Marcel
Sounds good, I think I'm going to order one of them.

-Marcel

Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:
 2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my
  normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already
  have such a thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels
  where they ought to be)?

 See MP35A at http://pc-mobile.net/audioadapter.htm - I have a few of
 those and they work great. The shop looks terrible but shipped those
 alright.

 -Timo

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale

let us now if it works :)
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from
OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, vale wrote:
 let us now if it works :)
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from
 OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
 people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
 bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.

In fact, if any of us bought more than three it would cost no more
than $0.88 US (shipped):

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3541

Although, there seems to be a flat $1.70 air mail fee for bulk orders.

(I've already told Marcel about this site on IRC and he noted that
they only accept PayPal)

Of course, at $1.30 shipped worldwide, I've already ordered one.

-- 
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
GREAT CATCH!

are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please
update the thread whenever you try it?


 
 In fact, if any of us bought more than three it would cost no more
 than $0.88 US (shipped):
 
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3541
 
 Although, there seems to be a flat $1.70 air mail fee for bulk orders.
 
 (I've already told Marcel about this site on IRC and he noted that
 they only accept PayPal)
 
 Of course, at $1.30 shipped worldwide, I've already ordered one.
 
 -- 
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 GREAT CATCH!

 are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please
 update the thread whenever you try it?


Yep.. I ordered/it shipped exactly a week ago, so it should be here
next week (shipping from Hong Kong usually takes about that long).

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2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-06 Thread Marcel
Hey,

I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my normal 
headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already have such a 
thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels where they 
ought to be)?

[On irc I was suggested to have a look at pinouts.ru, but they only seem to 
have the pins for the proprietary connectors, not for (eventually) existing 
2.5mm ones.]

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RE: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-06 Thread Blake Haggerty

I dont know if they have radio shacks in Europe but I just bought some generic 
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Sent: Aug 6, 2008 04:20:46 PM
Subject: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

Hey, 

I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my normal 
headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already have such a 
thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels where they 
ought to be)? 

[On irc I was suggested to have a look at pinouts.ru, but they only seem to 
have the pins for the proprietary connectors, not for (eventually) existing 
2.5mm ones.] 

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-06 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
Marcel wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my 
 normal 
 headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already have such a 
 thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels where they 
 ought to be)?

I have not tried that one yet, but you can take a look at
http://www.conrad.de/ or http://www.conrad.at/ and enter the product
number 302176 - 62 in the form on the right. I don't know to which
countries conrad delivers, and what the conditions are.

Wolfgang.

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-06 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
Wolfgang Silbermayr wrote:
[...]
 and enter the product
 number 302176 - 62 in the form on the right.

Should mean on the left, actually. It's still too early in the morning.

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