Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-08 Thread Steven **
Where is the xml file supposed to go?

-Steven

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages.
> Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even
> more characters in the "numbers" layout available via shift.
>
> package: 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
> source: 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
> layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml
>
> Changes
> -
> 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability.
> 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust
> that, but is max 33% in landscape.
> 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and 
> abort.
> 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key.
> 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction.
> 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels.
> 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if
> you like it.
>
> Known Issues
> --
> 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile
> to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the
> source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install
> to be 100% correct.
> 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the
> ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I
> think) after upgrades now.
> 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange
> times. If you get a "}" character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look
> into this.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
>>> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
>>> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
>>> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
>>> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
>>> I can post is somewhere.
>>
>>
>> count me as interested!
>>
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-06 Thread leonardo
Dylan Reilly wrote:

thanks, now it works, I was using matchbox from OM repositories, not the
ones you pointed.
Now I can play numptyphysiscs :-)

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Robert William Hutton
arne anka wrote:
>> I'm not sure if I'm doing something incredibly stupid here, but:
>> ...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# opkg install  
>> matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
> 
> yes, you do. twice, actually :-)

There are days when a bit of humble pie is good for one.

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread arne anka
> just very annoying if you have the keyboard up and the phones locks
> you have to ssh in to remove it to be able to unlock the phone

very annying, indeed.

> seriously... what is wrong with the "dim, no lock" option in 2007.2,
> it looks rather easy to fix but has been around for as long as i know
> of it...

probably because nbody really uses it.
anyway, they keyboard is a different issue imo, it should disappear as  
well when the lock screen pops in.

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Dylan Reilly
If you apply the keyboard toggle button
(http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/021296.html)
you can get around this. Press and hold power to bring up the power
menu and you will see that the applet bar is visible. Touch the
keyboard applet to hide the keyboard. Voila.

But yes, it is an annoying bug.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it works now,
> just very annoying if you have the keyboard up and the phones locks
> you have to ssh in to remove it to be able to unlock the phone
>
>
> seriously... what is wrong with the "dim, no lock" option in 2007.2,
> it looks rather easy to fix but has been around for as long as i know
> of it...
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> you can install the things that fail from the feed:
>>
>> yupp, the md5 error means that there's a package in the feed with the same
>> version but a different md5sum.
>> since this wasn't the case when i build those packages no one ever hit
>> that snag -- seems the buildhost's glitch resulted somehow in making these
>> packages available officially again.
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Yorick Moko
it works now,
just very annoying if you have the keyboard up and the phones locks
you have to ssh in to remove it to be able to unlock the phone


seriously... what is wrong with the "dim, no lock" option in 2007.2,
it looks rather easy to fix but has been around for as long as i know
of it...


On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> you can install the things that fail from the feed:
>
> yupp, the md5 error means that there's a package in the feed with the same
> version but a different md5sum.
> since this wasn't the case when i build those packages no one ever hit
> that snag -- seems the buildhost's glitch resulted somehow in making these
> packages available officially again.
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread arne anka
> you can install the things that fail from the feed:

yupp, the md5 error means that there's a package in the feed with the same  
version but a different md5sum.
since this wasn't the case when i build those packages no one ever hit  
that snag -- seems the buildhost's glitch resulted somehow in making these  
packages available officially again.

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Yorick Moko
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Dylan Reilly wrote:
>
>> opkg install 
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
>
>
>
> hrmm ...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod matchbox-
> keyboard-im
> Removing package matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod from root...
> Removing package matchbox-keyboard-im from root...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-applet
> Removing package matchbox-keyboard-applet from root...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cd /tmp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# mkdir matchbox-keyboard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# cd matchbox-keyboard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# wget 
> http://www.ginguppin.de/files
> /keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
> Connecting to www.ginguppin.de (212.204.60.1:80)
> keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2 100% ||
> 31233  --:--:-- ETA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# tar -jxf keyboard-
> ipk.tar.bz2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg remove -force-
> depends multita
> p-pad
> No packages removed.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install
> matchbox-keyboard-inp
> utmethod*.ipk
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard-
> inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard-
> inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Installing matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
>
>
> Collected errors:
>  * Package matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod md5sum mismatch. Either the
> opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install
> matchbox-keyboard-im*
> .ipk
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)
> providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)
> providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Installing matchbox-keyboard-im (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
> Collected errors:
>  * Package matchbox-keyboard-im md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or
> the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install
> matchbox-keyboard-app
> let*.ipk
>
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and matchbox-keyboard-
> applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and matchbox-keyboard-
> applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Installing matchbox-keyboard-applet (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
> Collected errors:
>  * Package matchbox-keyboard-applet md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg
> or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# cd ..
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# rm -rf matchbox-keyboard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# opkg install 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/
> matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
> Downloading 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard-
> inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard-
> inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
> Installing matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod (0.1-finger) to root...
> Configuring matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#
>
> Collected errors:
>  * Package matchbox-keyboard-applet md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg
> or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
>  * Package matchbox-keyboard-im md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or
> the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
>
>
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Jay:

you can install the things that fail from the feed:
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet
opkg install 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk

then you need to modifie the /etc/matchbox/session file to get a button for it:
In the list of applets after --end-applets, add keyboard,

then restart Xserver

that did the trick for me

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Jay Vaughan

On Aug 5, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Dylan Reilly wrote:

> opkg install 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk



hrmm ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod matchbox- 
keyboard-im
Removing package matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod from root...
Removing package matchbox-keyboard-im from root...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-applet
Removing package matchbox-keyboard-applet from root...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cd /tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# mkdir matchbox-keyboard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# cd matchbox-keyboard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# wget 
http://www.ginguppin.de/files
/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
Connecting to www.ginguppin.de (212.204.60.1:80)
keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2 100% ||  
31233  --:--:-- ETA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# tar -jxf keyboard- 
ipk.tar.bz2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg remove -force- 
depends multita
p-pad
No packages removed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install  
matchbox-keyboard-inp
utmethod*.ipk
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard- 
inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard- 
inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...


Collected errors:
  * Package matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod md5sum mismatch. Either the  
opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install  
matchbox-keyboard-im*
.ipk
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)  
providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)  
providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-im (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
Collected errors:
  * Package matchbox-keyboard-im md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or  
the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install  
matchbox-keyboard-app
let*.ipk

Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and matchbox-keyboard- 
applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and matchbox-keyboard- 
applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-applet (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
Collected errors:
  * Package matchbox-keyboard-applet md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg  
or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# cd ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# rm -rf matchbox-keyboard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# opkg install 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/
matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
Downloading 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard- 
inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod and matchbox-keyboard- 
inputmethod) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod (0.1-finger) to root...
Configuring matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp#

Collected errors:
  * Package matchbox-keyboard-applet md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg  
or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
  * Package matchbox-keyboard-im md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or  
the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.


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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Yorick Moko
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are without a keyboard, I would suggest removing matchbox
> entirely and starting over. See
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards .
>
> 1) Remove existing:
> opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod matchbox-keyboard-im
> matchbox-keyboard-applet
>
> 2) Then follow the instructions for installing the matchbox keyboard:
> cd /tmp
> mkdir matchbox-keyboard
> cd matchbox-keyboard
> wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
> tar -jxf keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
> opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad
> opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod*.ipk
> opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im*.ipk
> opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet*.ipk
> cd ..
> rm -rf matchbox-keyboard
>
> 3) Then, you can try installing the package I made.
> opkg install 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
>
> 4) Restart X.
> /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart.
>
> No need to touch the .tar.gz file.
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM, leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Jay Vaughan wrote:
>>> Displayed just fine for me now .. looks good!  I am installing it now ..
>>>
>>
>> did you manage it?
>> I'm without keyboard at all, now :)
>>
>> ciao,
>> leonardo.
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after doing an opkg update i still get errors:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install 
matchbox-keyboar
d-im*.ipk
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)
providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-im and matchbox-keyboard-im)
providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-im (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
Collected errors:
 * Package matchbox-keyboard-im md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or
the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp/matchbox-keyboard# opkg install 
matchbox-keyboar
d-applet*.ipk
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and
matchbox-keyboard-applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (matchbox-keyboard-applet and
matchbox-keyboard-applet) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Installing matchbox-keyboard-applet (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root...
Collected errors:
 * Package matchbox-keyboard-applet md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg
or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread Dylan Reilly
If you are without a keyboard, I would suggest removing matchbox
entirely and starting over. See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards .

1) Remove existing:
opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod matchbox-keyboard-im
matchbox-keyboard-applet

2) Then follow the instructions for installing the matchbox keyboard:
cd /tmp
mkdir matchbox-keyboard
cd matchbox-keyboard
wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
tar -jxf keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod*.ipk
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im*.ipk
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet*.ipk
cd ..
rm -rf matchbox-keyboard

3) Then, you can try installing the package I made.
opkg install 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk

4) Restart X.
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart.

No need to touch the .tar.gz file.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM, leonardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jay Vaughan wrote:
>> Displayed just fine for me now .. looks good!  I am installing it now ..
>>
>
> did you manage it?
> I'm without keyboard at all, now :)
>
> ciao,
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-05 Thread leonardo
Jay Vaughan wrote:
> Displayed just fine for me now .. looks good!  I am installing it now ..
> 

did you manage it?
I'm without keyboard at all, now :)

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-04 Thread arne anka
> I'm not sure if I'm doing something incredibly stupid here, but:
> ...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# opkg install  
> matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz

yes, you do. twice, actually :-)
opkg can install *.ipk only and the tar.gz contains the sources -- so even  
if it would install it would not work.
try

opkg install  
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-04 Thread Robert William Hutton
Dylan Reilly wrote:
> Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages.
> Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even
> more characters in the "numbers" layout available via shift.
> 
> package: 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz

I'm not sure if I'm doing something incredibly stupid here, but:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# opkg list |grep matchbox-keyboard
matchbox-keyboard-applet - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
matchbox-keyboard-im - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# opkg install matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
An error ocurred, return value: 2.

Is it the mismatch between version 0.0 and 0.1?  I'm running the default 
image plus opkg update && opkg upgrade.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
> 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange
> times. If you get a "}" character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look
> into this.

Some people have reported something similar in matchbox-keyboard, which
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Jay Vaughan
Displayed just fine for me now .. looks good!  I am installing it now ..

j.

On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Dylan Reilly wrote:

> Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is
> broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love
> for now I am afraid.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Those don't display as images...
>>
>> -Steven
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Dylan Reilly  
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png
>>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png
>>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Reilly
No, but you can add one by modifying the profile. I tried to remove as
many buttons as possible so the keys could be larger. The intent was
not to have every key present, but rather 100% of the ones used 99% of
the time.

Personally I would only use escape for vi but nano can be installed
instead to compensate.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an escape button?
>
> -Steven
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages.
>> Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even
>> more characters in the "numbers" layout available via shift.
>>
>> package: 
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
>> source: 
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
>> layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml
>>
>> Changes
>> -
>> 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability.
>> 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust
>> that, but is max 33% in landscape.
>> 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and 
>> abort.
>> 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key.
>> 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction.
>> 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels.
>> 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if
>> you like it.
>>
>> Known Issues
>> --
>> 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile
>> to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the
>> source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install
>> to be 100% correct.
>> 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the
>> ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I
>> think) after upgrades now.
>> 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange
>> times. If you get a "}" character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look
>> into this.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
 accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
 shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
 because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
 no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
 I can post is somewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> count me as interested!
>>>
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Steven **
Is there an escape button?

-Steven

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages.
> Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even
> more characters in the "numbers" layout available via shift.
>
> package: 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
> source: 
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
> layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml
>
> Changes
> -
> 1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability.
> 2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust
> that, but is max 33% in landscape.
> 3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and 
> abort.
> 4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key.
> 5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction.
> 6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels.
> 7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if
> you like it.
>
> Known Issues
> --
> 1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile
> to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the
> source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install
> to be 100% correct.
> 2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the
> ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I
> think) after upgrades now.
> 3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange
> times. If you get a "}" character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look
> into this.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
>>> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
>>> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
>>> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
>>> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
>>> I can post is somewhere.
>>
>>
>> count me as interested!
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Reilly
Awesome, thanks. Go figure, actually having a libc library would make
something work.

Screen shots are up now.
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dylan Reilly wrote:
>> Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is
>> broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love
>> for now I am afraid.
>>
> some error about 'cannot convert chunk to ISO-whatever?
>
> if so, do 'ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so'...
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dale Maggee
Dylan Reilly wrote:
> Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is
> broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love
> for now I am afraid.
>   
some error about 'cannot convert chunk to ISO-whatever?

if so, do 'ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so'...

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Reilly
Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is
broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love
for now I am afraid.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Those don't display as images...
>
> -Steven
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Steven **
Those don't display as images...

-Steven

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png
> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Reilly
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard1.png
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard2.png
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard3.png

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any screenshots?
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread arne anka
any screenshots?

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Reilly
Here you go. You still need the other two matchbox keyboard packages.
Use the button in the lower right to switch profiles. There are even
more characters in the "numbers" layout available via shift.

package: 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-0.1-finger.tar.gz
source: 
http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod_0.1-finger_armv4t.ipk
layout only: http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/keyboard.xml

Changes
-
1) Keyboard repeat removed for finger usability.
2) Defaults to a larger size. The -h argument can be used to adjust
that, but is max 33% in landscape.
3) Key presses are sent on release not press so you can notice errors and abort.
4) Moving off a key deselects it and sends no key.
5) Swipe up, down, left, right to move the cursor in that direction.
6) Width values specified in layout now in absolute pixels.
7) The package overwrites the default keyboard.xml, so back it up if
you like it.

Known Issues
--
1) I know nothing about automake, so I had to hack into the makefile
to set the X session script as executable. If you play with the
source, don't automake without fixing this and expect a make install
to be 100% correct.
2) I think there is something slightly wrong with the meta data in the
ipk. Opkg complains about a related package (matchbox-keyboard-im I
think) after upgrades now.
3) I just noticed the control key seems to be applying at strange
times. If you get a "}" character, hit the CTRL key first. I will look
into this.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
>> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
>> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
>> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
>> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
>> I can post is somewhere.
>
>
> count me as interested!
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Jay Vaughan
> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
> I can post is somewhere.


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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-08-01 Thread Tim Coggins
And me, please post it!

Tim


On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Robert William Hutton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dylan Reilly wrote:
>> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
>> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
>> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
>> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
>> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
>> I can post is somewhere.
>
> It certainly interests me!  I don't think we've got the perfect input
> mechanism by a long shot yet so I'd be really interested in giving any
> alternatives a try.
>
> Thanks
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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-07-31 Thread Robert William Hutton
Dylan Reilly wrote:
> FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
> accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
> shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
> because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
> no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
> I can post is somewhere.

It certainly interests me!  I don't think we've got the perfect input 
mechanism by a long shot yet so I'd be really interested in giving any 
alternatives a try.

Thanks

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Re: 2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-07-31 Thread Dylan Reilly
FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an
accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a
shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!)
because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by
no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone,
I can post is somewhere.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Tim Coggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to toggle multitap-pad, the standard keyboard in the
> latest 2007.2? It would make minimo really usable.
>
> I have managed to do this with the full qwerty keyboard* but I would
> like to be able to use the phone without a stylus.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
> * 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button
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2007.2 Multitap-pad toggle?

2008-07-31 Thread Tim Coggins
Hello,

Is it possible to toggle multitap-pad, the standard keyboard in the
latest 2007.2? It would make minimo really usable.

I have managed to do this with the full qwerty keyboard* but I would
like to be able to use the phone without a stylus.

Thanks,
Tim


* 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button

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