Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Benedikt Schindler]

William Lai schrieb:
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote:
>
>   
>> 
>> When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs.
>> But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend.
>> I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take.
>>
>> It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around  
>> it):
>> 
>
> You might want to wait on this one.  The official release is within a  
> week.  Installing will get much easier from then on.  Wouldn't want  
> you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very  
> soon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Will
>
>   
thx for the info.
stopped me from doing work that is obsolet after a week.
so i will wait for the release and write something about that then ... :p
... things like using GPRS ...

but wait... you wrote in an other post, that there will be also a GPRS 
update in the configuration-tool short after the release of 2008.8 
(known as ASU).
what means short? 2 weeks, 2 month or don't know? 

Or is the code already finished and you just won't put it in the stable 
tree so short before the release?

..

while i wait, i write some mails to every OM-employee about things they 
already know  :)
... just for fun   i think this will be a great week :) .

 

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Michele Renda]

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> Om 2008.8 (ASU) will be available on August 8th.
> 

08-08-08? -> Nice :) I hope it bringh a lot of luck :)
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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[William Lai]

Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> 0n Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:30:48AM +0800, William Lai wrote: 
> 
> >You might want to wait on this one.  The official release is within a  
> >week.  Installing will get much easier from then on.  Wouldn't want  
> >you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very  
> >soon.
> 
> "official release" of ?
> 

Om 2008.8 (ASU) will be available on August 8th.

-

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[arne anka]

> "official release" of ?

well, since the subject reads "ASU", william lai is of openmoko and  
openmoko does officially only asu ... it should not be too hard to guess,  
shouldn't it?

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Wilkinson, Alex]

0n Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:30:48AM +0800, William Lai wrote: 

>You might want to wait on this one.  The official release is within a  
>week.  Installing will get much easier from then on.  Wouldn't want  
>you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very  
>soon.

"official release" of ?

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[William Lai]

On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote:

> 
> When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs.
> But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend.
> I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take.
>
> It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around  
> it):

You might want to wait on this one.  The official release is within a  
week.  Installing will get much easier from then on.  Wouldn't want  
you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very  
soon.

Regards,

Will

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Benedikt Schindler]

Jacob Peterson schrieb:
>
> I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone
> stuff.  (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS)
> I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done.
>
>
> If you do find/start a wiki page let me know, I would be interested in 
> helping with that.
>

Just for now, my "opkg update && opkg upgrade" is broken.
but i think this is a problem with some packages on the buildhosts. but 
i am not sure yet.
... damm and it looks all so good this morning

tomorow i am not able to realy go on with that task. ... (sometimes i 
have to work for my money ;) )
but i hope to get on that at the weekend.

--
Status:
Exposure - still broken
Campwifi - now also broken (because of the tryings to get Exposure working)
This seems all to be a problem with the python packages.
---

When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs.
But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend.
I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take.

It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around it):

http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/4pj37ioh4wbvs6ac?q=ASU+mike
http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295#p2956 


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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Jacob Peterson]

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Benedikt Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Jacob Peterson schrieb:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:56 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
> > > I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily
> > phone, but
> > > could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I
> > loose (in
> > > usability/functionality) with ASU ?
> >
>
> It's working fine. ... just takes your time to get it installed right :)
>  the maintained rootfs wasn't working out of the box
> >
> >
> > Well, I'm trying to do that but it's not easy... Actually I
> > neither can
> > make my freerunner ring on calls (just vibrate installing the
> > ringprofiles packages). I've made a script for that (that reads the
> > modem output, but it's not exactly what we whould expect from a
> > daily use :P
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using a FreeRunner with ASU as my main phone for the past
> > couple of weeks and it has been working out well once I managed to
> > find the right combination of kernel and packages.  It is really fun
> > to show it off to people and everyone is rather impressed by it.
> >
> I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone
> stuff.  (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS)
> I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done.


If you do find/start a wiki page let me know, I would be interested in
helping with that.


>
> And maybe i am also able to create a rootfs with my packages. so that
> the first
> installation of a working ASU would be easyer for the beginning.
>
> But first i have to clean up some things.  btw could someone please
> send me a fresh ASU- "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia" ? ;)
>
>
Below is my 89qtopia file.   Good luck :)

-Jacob

/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia:

#!/bin/sh

# xmodmap to allow the soft-menu to work
xmodmap -e "keycode 180 = 0x11000601"
xmodmap -e "keycode 181 = 0x11000602"
xmodmap -e "keycode 182 = 0x11000603"
xmodmap -e "keycode 183 = 0x11000604"
xmodmap -e "keycode 184 = 0x11000605"
xmodmap -e "keycode 185 = 0x11000606"
xmodmap -e "keycode 186 = 0x11000607"
xmodmap -e "keycode 187 = 0x11000608"
xmodmap -e "keycode 188 = 0x11000609"
xmodmap -e "keycode 189 = 0x1100060A"
xmodmap -e "keycode 190 = 0x1100060B"
xmodmap -e "keycode 191 = 0x1100060B"
xmodmap -e "keycode 192 = 0x1100060A"
xmodmap -e "keycode 193 = 0x1100060C"
xmodmap -e "keycode 194 = 0x1100060D"
xmodmap -e "keycode 195 = 0x1100060E"
xmodmap -e "keycode 196 = 0x1100060F"
xmodmap -e "keycode 197 = 0x11000610"
xmodmap -e "keycode 198 = 0x1008ff26"

# path setup
export QPEDIR=/opt/Qtopia
export PATH=$QPEDIR/bin:$PATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QPEDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

export QTOPIA_PHONE_VENDOR=ficgta01
export QTOPIA_PHONE_MUX=ficgta01

QTOPIA_MESSAGE="The qpe process vanished. This is bad.
This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of
a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and
report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.

To be able to use your phone as a phone again you
will have to restart Qtopia.
"




# Now start Qtopia
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
/usr/bin/app-restarter "$QTOPIA_MESSAGE" qpe 2>&1 | logger &


89qtopia
Description: Binary data
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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Wilkinson, Alex]

0n Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Benedikt Schindler wrote: 

>I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done.

That would be handy!

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Benedikt Schindler]

Jacob Peterson schrieb:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:56 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
> > I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily
> phone, but
> > could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I
> loose (in
> > usability/functionality) with ASU ?
>

It's working fine. ... just takes your time to get it installed right :) 
 the maintained rootfs wasn't working out of the box
>
>
> Well, I'm trying to do that but it's not easy... Actually I
> neither can
> make my freerunner ring on calls (just vibrate installing the
> ringprofiles packages). I've made a script for that (that reads the
> modem output, but it's not exactly what we whould expect from a
> daily use :P
>
>
>
> I have been using a FreeRunner with ASU as my main phone for the past 
> couple of weeks and it has been working out well once I managed to 
> find the right combination of kernel and packages.  It is really fun 
> to show it off to people and everyone is rather impressed by it. 
>
I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone 
stuff.  (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS)
I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done.
And maybe i am also able to create a rootfs with my packages. so that 
the first
installation of a working ASU would be easyer for the beginning.

But first i have to clean up some things.  btw could someone please 
send me a fresh ASU- "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia" ? ;)



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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Wilkinson, Alex]

0n Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 08:28:01PM -0500, Jacob Peterson wrote: 

>I have been using a FreeRunner with ASU as my main phone for the past 
couple
>of weeks and it has been working out well once I managed to find the right
>combination of kernel and packages.  It is really fun to show it off to
>people and everyone is rather impressed by it.

Did you write about it ? It is painful having to pour copious amounts of time
hacking around to make stuff work and bricking your phone in the process :(

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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Jacob Peterson]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:56 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
> > I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but
> > could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in
> > usability/functionality) with ASU ?
>
> Well, I'm trying to do that but it's not easy... Actually I neither can
> make my freerunner ring on calls (just vibrate installing the
> ringprofiles packages). I've made a script for that (that reads the
> modem output, but it's not exactly what we whould expect from a daily use
> :P
>
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I have been using a FreeRunner with ASU as my main phone for the past couple
of weeks and it has been working out well once I managed to find the right
combination of kernel and packages.  It is really fun to show it off to
people and everyone is rather impressed by it.

I haven't used Qtopia yet, so I don't know exactly what features you are
expecting.  For me all the Qtopia applications that come with ASU (Dialer,
Messages and Contacts) work fine along with the finger keyboard, gps,
switching on/off radios (through exposure) and suspend/resume.  The only
basic things I can think you would miss would be GUI managers for Bluetooth
devices, GRPS settings and wifi connections (ASU does come with Campwifi but
it is very basic).

Overall I have been very impressed with ASU and I think it will be a great
platform once the first release is out.  Since it is in such heavy
development flux right now, it took a bit of experimenting to find the right
combination of updates and filesystem/kernel images to get all the primary
features working.  I will try getting a link to my current image up shortly
if anyone wants to play around with it.
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Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
> I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but 
> could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in 
> usability/functionality) with ASU ?

Well, I'm trying to do that but it's not easy... Actually I neither can 
make my freerunner ring on calls (just vibrate installing the 
ringprofiles packages). I've made a script for that (that reads the 
modem output, but it's not exactly what we whould expect from a daily use :P

-- 
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ASU as daily phone, someone ?

[Xavier Cremaschi]

I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but 
could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in 
usability/functionality) with ASU ?

This array seems to tell me "gogogo switch to ASU!" 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions

Having GTK+ and GPS possibilities while loosing some speed seems rather 
acceptable...

Xavier Cremaschi.


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