Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi, I just found some bare unpopulated FRID-PCBs while preparing FOSDEM. If you go there I will have some with me. Nikolaus Am 17.01.2013 um 11:30 schrieb Yury Sakarinen: Hi, I would like to buy The Freerunner RFID but boards not on sale. Does anyone have an extra? http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=RFID%20Board Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2011-04-11 11:23: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi, I would like to buy The Freerunner RFID but boards not on sale. Does anyone have an extra? http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=RFID%20Board Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2011-04-11 11:23: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Am 11.04.2011 um 23:16 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk: Does this kind of antenna need to have right-angled corners, as in the photo? Or is that shape easier sculpted in the PCB? Well, the shape should cover an inside area as big as possible. And fit onto a given rectangular shape. The width and the distance of the traces is defined. This all leads to sharp right angles. But I don't know if that is the best setup and TI also recommends it in their EVM and antenna design guide. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Best regards, Denis Shulyaka. 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi Nikolaus, Just an idea: handheld scanner for pets (veterinarian, animal rescue workers etc) It could read the animals rfid chip and do a lookup in the database to show the owner. Kind regards, Ed On Monday 11 April 2011 09:59:38 Denis Shulyaka wrote: Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Best regards, Denis Shulyaka. 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
There's an app for Android that reads MIFARE 13.56MHz transit cards: https://github.com/codebutler/farebot The author would like to see eventually emulating such cards: http://codebutler.com/announcing-farebot-for-android I would definitely be interested in a board if it was proven it could read or emulate MIFARE transit tags. 4 wire installation @ http://chonyota.net/freerunner/FRNBv2/FRNBv2-Installation.pdf looks easy enough for someone like me to solder :) On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Best regards, Denis Shulyaka. 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Am 11.04.2011 um 09:59 schrieb Denis Shulyaka: Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Difficult to say. There are three potential issues whiy it could not work: * our board is 13.56 MHz (other RFID systems use different frequencies) * our board supports two protocol standards (they may use a different one) * the RFID system may be copy protected and/or encrypted with the tag id (and you can't change a tag id) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Am 11.04.2011 um 10:13 schrieb Alex (Maxious) Sadleir: There's an app for Android that reads MIFARE 13.56MHz transit cards: https://github.com/codebutler/farebot The author would like to see eventually emulating such cards: http://codebutler.com/announcing-farebot-for-android I would definitely be interested in a board if it was proven it could read or emulate MIFARE transit tags. 4 wire installation @ http://chonyota.net/freerunner/FRNBv2/FRNBv2-Installation.pdf looks easy enough for someone like me to solder :) Ah, this still links to the wrong file, but soldering isn't much different than described there. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Best regards, Denis Shulyaka. 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Am 11.04.2011 um 10:13 schrieb Ed Kapitein: Hi Nikolaus, Just an idea: handheld scanner for pets (veterinarian, animal rescue workers etc) It could read the animals rfid chip and do a lookup in the database to show the owner. Kind regards, Ed Nice idea! Tags are available in many different formats (credit card, coin, ...) so there may also be an animal-safe variant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Difficult to say. There are three potential issues whiy it could not work: * our board is 13.56 MHz (other RFID systems use different frequencies) * our board supports two protocol standards (they may use a different one) * the RFID system may be copy protected and/or encrypted with the tag id (and you can't change a tag id) Wikipedia says that it uses Mifare UltraLight chip (ISO 14443 Type A 13,56 MHz), so the protocol seems to be compatible. The encryption part is unknown. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
--- On Mon, 4/11/11, Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 12:41 PM 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: There are three potential issues whiy it could not work: (...) Wikipedia says that it uses Mifare UltraLight chip (ISO 14443 Type A 13,56 MHz), so the protocol seems to be compatible. The encryption part is unknown. If it indeed is the ultralight chip, there seems no encryption: The disposable passes are cheaper Mifare Ultralight cards that do not employ any encryption or keys, and can be read by anyone. (wikipedia as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-chipkaart#Technology) * the RFID system may be copy protected and/or encrypted with the tag id (and you can't change a tag id) Bad luck! Would spoofing be doable? I got my wallet full of cards for all kinds of things, that is, entrance to the office and subscription for the library. I guess these are linked to the chip ID (although I know of libraries that don't use the ID of their labels, if I understood them correctly! I asked a few times, under different angles of question-attack, but got the same answer each time. Unbelievable...). Does this kind of antenna need to have right-angled corners, as in the photo? Or is that shape easier sculpted in the PCB? Thanks for the experiment! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
