Re: Buying the lunchbox

2008-04-14 Thread ramsesoriginal
Thanks Steve. That's the right way!

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Marc Verwerft
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 That's a philsophy and business approach that makes sense for you and for me!

  Thanks Steve


  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Another way to look at it. Openmoko is going to focus on the areas where 
 we
add VALUE. Buying the lunchbox from
Company A, and reselling it to you, is of marginal value.
  
Plus one lunchbox doesn't fit ALL. If you want or need a secure carrying
case, then go to the guys
Who are expert in that and you will end up with a better deal all around.
The exact case you need.
A cheaper price, and openmoko can focus on open source hardware and
software.
  
Steve
  
  



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Buying the lunchbox

2008-04-13 Thread steve
Can you buy the actual lunchbox separately from us?

No. My approach is this. If Openmoko buys a lunchbox and sells it to you,
then we have to make
A profit and charge you shipping and by the end of the day, the customer is
NOT served very well.

It's better to enable the customer to get the same thing for less by buying
it direct! 

http://www.all-pelican-cases-4-less.com/detail_pelican_1120.html


In short, it's cheaper for you to buy from people direct, than it is for me
to buy from them and sell to you.

Another way to look at it. Openmoko is going to focus on the areas where we
add VALUE. Buying the lunchbox from
Company A, and reselling it to you, is of marginal value. 

Plus one lunchbox doesn't fit ALL. If you want or need a secure carrying
case, then go to the guys
Who are expert in that and you will end up with a better deal all around.
The exact case you need.
A cheaper price, and openmoko can focus on open source hardware and
software.

Steve

   

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

Thats great news!
Just a quick question: will it be possible to buy the lunchbox as an own
product?

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready!

 . . .Shawn


 - Original Message 
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 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:50:40 AM
 Subject: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update



  I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on 
 PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from 
 the first PVT run. Michael Shiloh will be back in Silicon valley next 
 Tuesday, so he and I will test the samples and get them out to key 
 partners. I want to check a couple things like using the Nokia 
 batteries as spares and generic USB chargers before I send these samples
out.

 Now, for the update on Products, and Pricing,

 1. Products.

  Orginally the FreeRunner ( GTA02) was planned to come out in two
packages.
 Basic and advanced, just like the Neo 1973. We killed that idea. It 
 was a quick humane death. The problem was the GTA02 advanced unit 
 would have been $650 USD. After seeing the response to Neo 1973, a 
 huge response, we decided the best path was to lower the price, reward 
 our early developers, and attract more developers.

 2. Pricing
 We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious
bits.
 Optimized the box like it was code. The first thing we got rid of was 
 the lunchbox. It was cool, but it was expensive and heavy. Eliminating 
 that was a sizeable cost savings. ( think shipping weight).

 Next we pulled out the debug board and made it a separate product.  We 
 priced it at $99 US. about 1 tenth what people would pay for similar 
 capability.

 My goal was to get to a place where we could sell the FreeRunner at $399.
 USD.

 We did that.

 The FreeRunner will ship from Openmoko.com at $399. For early 
 customers I'm looking at throwing in a few free things. More details
later.

 The debug board will be available as a separate product for $99 USD.

 Many people wrote me mails asking if they could get a discount by 
 buying more than one phone. Sometimes they were universities, 
 sometimes a small business, sometimes a small group or club.

 For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we 
 will charge 369 per phone.


 Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and 
 how the product will get distributed


 Steve






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Re: Buying the lunchbox

2008-04-13 Thread Marc Verwerft
That's a philsophy and business approach that makes sense for you and for me!

Thanks Steve

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Another way to look at it. Openmoko is going to focus on the areas where we
  add VALUE. Buying the lunchbox from
  Company A, and reselling it to you, is of marginal value.

  Plus one lunchbox doesn't fit ALL. If you want or need a secure carrying
  case, then go to the guys
  Who are expert in that and you will end up with a better deal all around.
  The exact case you need.
  A cheaper price, and openmoko can focus on open source hardware and
  software.

  Steve



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