Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
There are already very good web interfaces for various stereo systems such as the SlimServer (for squeezebox) and Roku Soundbridge. For Home Automation, you definitely don't want to have it tied to a mobile device that's going to go away so instead have the Neo1973 display an interface to your linux/mac/pc home automation system. For example, Perceptive Automation's Indigo has Control Pages, full featured web interface to your home automation system, security, itunes, music, etc: http://www.perceptiveautomation.com/indigo/window2_pageeditor.html http://goprism.com:8000/controlpage?name=itunes_controller On Linux MisterHouse (http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/) is web-based, open-source, and very hackable (if you like Perl) for controlling all this stuff, viewing sensor data, etc. These both will use your GPRS data connection, but that's very useful for controlling when you're not at home/office. You can also use the Bluetooth for proximity detection - which can check out Romeo/Salling Clicker/others for good examples of how this could be done on OpenMoko and then provide a nice interface for controlling detected devices. Anyways, so for a SoC project this would still be useful to tie an application for proximity detection and UI for interfacing these systems. Andrew On 3/19/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
Thank u, The same idea made me think of a way to link open moko with real world ..'Can open moko make coffee'.. The interface could be either through usb or RF .. For the above mentioned ideas like connecting phone to external circuitries like microcontroller , i think it is a good idea to use usb... Anyway i am excited to see this idea implemented some way -Anil On 3/19/07, Richi Plana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:24 +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2007/3/19, Anil Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal -- The Coffee HOWTO ( http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html ) begins by asserting that Linux DOES make Coffee, and it tastes good!; it then goes on to describe how you can control devices like say a coffee machine using the PC parallel port and some simple electronics. I think it is a nice idea. The only thing I wonder: is it usefull? A phone is something you normally take with you. I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Richi Plana ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. MythTV can be adapted to just about anything that you can think of. I'll be the first to say that it is more difficult to get setup initially (compared to a Windows Media Center), but once you've got it up and running then you've just begun to scratch the surface of what all it can do. MythTV does have a web-interface. Depending on what all you are wanting to do, it is possible that what you are wanting is already available, and the Neo's built-in browser could probably handle all of the controls. If not, then both are open-sourced and you could throw something together to fit your needs. Hope that helps, Jonathon ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. hmm, bluetooth at both ends. is there a way to send a custom protocol between bluetooth devices without the need for a maintained serial style connection? hmm, i wonder if mythtv already have support for bluetooth based remote control... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
kenneth marken wrote: Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. hmm, bluetooth at both ends. is there a way to send a custom protocol between bluetooth devices without the need for a maintained serial style connection? hmm, i wonder if mythtv already have support for bluetooth based remote control... err, while it may be bad netiquette to reply to oneself, i found this over on the mythtv wiki: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bluetooth_Remote_with_WM5_Smartphone i guess one should be able to use the same mythbox part, but write a different part for the neo... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
I thought this service is already available in moko 'bluetooth services' ...Otherwise it has to be there... We have implemented the same idea for Nokia s60 (Symbian OS) phones using bluetooth... *There u could control the media playing on pc..from a distance.. *You can browse net from a python interface... *You can even control the pc through commands through your mobile.. *You can use ur mobile like a remote ... I think it could be easily done in moko too... On 3/20/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. MythTV can be adapted to just about anything that you can think of. I'll be the first to say that it is more difficult to get setup initially (compared to a Windows Media Center), but once you've got it up and running then you've just begun to scratch the surface of what all it can do. MythTV does have a web-interface. Depending on what all you are wanting to do, it is possible that what you are wanting is already available, and the Neo's built-in browser could probably handle all of the controls. If not, then both are open-sourced and you could throw something together to fit your needs. Hope that helps, Jonathon ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
- Original Message From: kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:06:56 PM Subject: Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal kenneth marken wrote: Ben Burdette wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. hmm, bluetooth at both ends. is there a way to send a custom protocol between bluetooth devices without the need for a maintained serial style connection? hmm, i wonder if mythtv already have support for bluetooth based remote control... plutohome (which uses mythTV) does this already IIRC. It also uses the bluetooth to track the user through the house. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
On Monday 19 March 2007 20:44:55 Ben Burdette wrote: A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. IIRC there's a few Amarok scripts that expose a webinterface. Or you could look into Bemused. pgpFWOjuWX9n7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
I noticed the other day that MythTV has an option to Enable Network Remote Control interface. Looks like this is just a port you can telnet to and pass commands. I intend to write a remote control app that would run on OpenMoko. Cause I think that would be awesome. Of course, it would only really be useful if the Neo has wifi... Hmm... Maybe I should create that project on openmoko.org. -Steven On 3/19/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My own interface with the world ... until such time as we can get wetware to do brain-computer interfaces, ;). -- Me too. I want to use the moko to control a media center PC that is connected to my stereo, for queuing up audio files and etc. My PC uses a video projector for the monitor and turning on the projector is too much trouble just for queuing up audio. Leaving the projector on uses up the bulb life too. I wonder if one of the linux based media center apps like mythTV would work for this? A custom remote control app for the moko would be best, but a web browser interface would be fine too. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal
You mean like this except with a coffee maker? http://xe.bz/aho/24/ No ;) Marty Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:30:09 +0530 From: Anil Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank u, The same idea made me think of a way to link open moko with real world ..'Can open moko make coffee'.. The interface could be either through usb or RF .. For the above mentioned ideas like connecting phone to external circuitries like microcontroller , i think it is a good idea to use usb... Anyway i am excited to see this idea implemented some way -Anil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
