Re: G3. Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!
On 15 Jun 2008, at 05:54, Nigel Cunningham wrote: ... Or maybe I am just ignorant. Can you do sending and receiving email and so on with GSM, or is that 3G only? GSM is fine for this. ... I'd really rather buy a Freerunner, but at the moment I'm not sure what to do. I currently have a Nokia 3210 that spends most of it's time turned off and forgotten, and a Palm Zire 21 that gets wiped if the Nokia does something wrong (apparently not shielded that well). I'd like to replace them both by one thing, and I want that one thing to be Linux based and open source. At the same time, though, I want it to be useful for a long time. 3G seems to me ignorant mind to fit that bill better than GSM. I'm not sure what the big deal is with 3G. My misconception was that GSM was only dial-up speed, but someone recently posted here stating otherwise. Someone debated with him over his terming GSM as having ADSL speed, but if it's 2 or 3 times faster than 56k then that's fine by me. I can do all my email websurfing quite happily at that speed, and since my current 3G mobile is painfully slow when coverage is spotty I can't see that it makes much difference. As I understand it GSM *does* allow you to make a digital data connection, and that's the important thing. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: G3. Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!
On Mon, June 16, 2008 5:14 am, Stroller wrote: I'm not sure what the big deal is with 3G. My misconception was that GSM was only dial-up speed, but someone recently posted here stating otherwise. Someone debated with him over his terming GSM as having ADSL speed, but if it's 2 or 3 times faster than 56k then that's fine by me. I can do all my email websurfing quite happily at that speed, and since my current 3G mobile is painfully slow when coverage is spotty I can't see that it makes much difference. My understanding -- and experience -- is that GSM/GPRS does provide only Dail-up speed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS suggests a max of around 80kbit/sec which is a little faster than 56k, but not much. If you have EDGE support, then that pushes it up to 236kbit, which is almost slow-ADSL. However it is my understanding that GTA02 doesn't support EDGE. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko#GPRS_modem says GPRS modem 2.5G (no EDGE) access to the Internet. As I understand it GSM *does* allow you to make a digital data connection, and that's the important thing. I agree - that is in the important thing. I used GPRS for Internet access while traveling in the UK recently, and while it is much better than not being connected at all, it is a long way from being a comfortable browsing experience. NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community