Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted?
 When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the
 network.
 YMMV.


Suspend?  If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the
Configuration  Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all.  I had once
been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I am
no longer sure how that magic worked.

By the way, now the OM-dialer also works, but it seems to have a clash with
the QT dialer and either one does not respond whenever there is a call.  Is
there a way to specify the default dialer?  Moot question, probably, because
somebody pointed out just now how I could import all contacts at once in the
QT contacts and remove the OM-dialer.
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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Suspend?  If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the
 Configuration  Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all.  I had once
 been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I am
 no longer sure how that magic worked.

Strange - it works here. I have to press the power button for a few
seconds, which is a bit unnerving as I am worried that I will reboot
the phone.
But it works every time.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen

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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Suspend?  If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the
  Configuration  Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all.  I had
 once
  been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I
 am
  no longer sure how that magic worked.

 Strange - it works here. I have to press the power button for a few
 seconds, which is a bit unnerving as I am worried that I will reboot
 the phone.
 But it works every time.


I tried that...leads to shutdown.  What is the magic number of seconds that
worked for you?
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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:28:55PM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
   What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted?
   When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the
   network.
   YMMV.
  
 
  Suspend?  If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the
  Configuration  Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all.  I had
 once
  been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I
 am
  no longer sure how that magic worked.
 
  By the way, now the OM-dialer also works, but it seems to have a clash
 with
  the QT dialer and either one does not respond whenever there is a call.
  Is
  there a way to specify the default dialer?  Moot question, probably,
 because
  somebody pointed out just now how I could import all contacts at once in
 the
  QT contacts and remove the OM-dialer.

 You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed?
 Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to
 the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM
 stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely,
 or remove gsmd.

 Was about to remove the OM dialer.  Thanks.
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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Alexey Kurochkin
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote:

 You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed?
 Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to
 the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM
 stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely,
 or remove gsmd.

Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not
knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions
how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to
fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the
first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM
dialer will be ported to talk to qpe?

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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Alexey Kurochkin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote:

  You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed?
  Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to
  the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM
  stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely,
  or remove gsmd.

 Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not
 knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions
 how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to
 fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the
 first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM
 dialer will be ported to talk to qpe?

 I have removed the OM-dialer, and the phone has been unable to register 1-2
hours after rebooting.  What is it that I need to check in the logs /
libraries?  Do I need to remove gsmd as well?

The phone had worked infrequently even when both dialers were installed.
Now it is not.
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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:



 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Alexey Kurochkin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote:

  You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed?
  Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to
  the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM
  stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely,
  or remove gsmd.

 Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not
 knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions
 how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to
 fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the
 first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM
 dialer will be ported to talk to qpe?

 I have removed the OM-dialer, and the phone has been unable to register
 1-2 hours after rebooting.  What is it that I need to check in the logs /
 libraries?  Do I need to remove gsmd as well?

 The phone had worked infrequently even when both dialers were installed.
 Now it is not.


OK, now I have removed gsmd too:

opkg remove libgsmd
opkg remove gsmd-plugins
opkg remove gsmd*

just to avoid use of -force options.  Status report in 10, 9, 8...(minutes?
let's dream on)
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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-26 Thread Thomas B.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:52:24AM -0500, Alexey Kurochkin wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote:
 
  You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed?
  Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to
  the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM
  stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely,
  or remove gsmd.
 
 Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not
 knowing that OM dialer really brakes things.

That's what http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1827 is for. I don't
know what the progress there is, though.

Regards,
Thomas


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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 07:39:01PM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 I have tried the zecke-testing branch updates, and now my FR does get
 registered, and I can send and receive calls and messages.  However, once
 rebooted, the FR takes at least 15-20 minutes, probably longer to get
 registered to the network.
 
 Can anybody tell me if this is still an outstanding issue, or should it be
 solved? How?

Did you try installing raster's image [1] than updating from
zecke-testing?

To me it's just a tad less stable than framebuffer qtopia, but way more
exciting :)

[1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/

Rui

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Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing

2008-08-25 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list,

 I have tried the zecke-testing branch updates, and now my FR does get
 registered, and I can send and receive calls and messages.  However, once
 rebooted, the FR takes at least 15-20 minutes, probably longer to get
 registered to the network.

What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted?
When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the network.
YMMV.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen

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