Re: Galileo
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Re: Galileo
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 08:16:24PM +0100, Ian Stirling wrote: Ewan Oughton wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Galileo.2FGLONASS.2FGPS_receiver GLONASS? Isn't that the Soviet GPS-alike that is mostly dead? What's remains of it I believe is currently optimised for use in Russian military deployments in Chechnya.. Doubt it's going to be a viable tech any time soon. Also, finding a chip comparible in size / cost to the Hammerhead would be difficult. It's had new satellites launched recently and commitments have been made to bring it fully online well before the completion of Galilleo. It _was_ decaying rapidly into uselessness only several years ago. Yeah, and here you can see the most portable GLONASS reciever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Glonass-reciever.jpg -- America, how can I write a holy litany in your silly mood? -- Allen Ginsberg signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Galileo
Hi, Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. It's not really openmoko related, I know. Just wondering. Best regards, Mickael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
On Monday 16 July 2007 16:09, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Hi, Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? If they ever get the funding sorted out - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/05/galileo_commons_debate/ and related stories at the bottom of the page. I don't think they've even launched a test constellation yet. I wouldn't expect any current navigation chipset to support it at this stage. I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. It's not really openmoko related, I know. Just wondering. Best regards, Mickael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
Mickael Faivre-Macon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Hi, Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. It's not really openmoko related, I know. Just wondering. AFAIK the two technologies are incompatible at this stage. There's news that it won't be live until 2014 anyway (only one satellite has been launched). So I wouldn't think there's any rush to look into it. --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
ma, 2007-07-16 kello 17:09 +0200, Mickael Faivre-Macon kirjoitti: Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. No. There have been combined GPS/Galileo chip(set)s announced, but the Hammerhead isn't one. Something for the future of OpenMoko devices, one dares suppose. Not really something to pay extra money/space/etc for when launching a new product line now, considering GPS manages quite fine and Galileo isn't here yet. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: Hi, Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ? I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are compatible and if having a AGPS chip (Hammerhead) enable the Neo to receive Galileo information. It's not really openmoko related, I know. Just wondering. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Galileo.2FGLONASS.2FGPS_receiver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Galileo.2FGLONASS.2FGPS_receiver GLONASS? Isn't that the Soviet GPS-alike that is mostly dead? What's remains of it I believe is currently optimised for use in Russian military deployments in Chechnya.. Doubt it's going to be a viable tech any time soon. Also, finding a chip comparible in size / cost to the Hammerhead would be difficult. Ewan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo
Ewan Oughton wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Galileo.2FGLONASS.2FGPS_receiver GLONASS? Isn't that the Soviet GPS-alike that is mostly dead? What's remains of it I believe is currently optimised for use in Russian military deployments in Chechnya.. Doubt it's going to be a viable tech any time soon. Also, finding a chip comparible in size / cost to the Hammerhead would be difficult. It's had new satellites launched recently and commitments have been made to bring it fully online well before the completion of Galilleo. It _was_ decaying rapidly into uselessness only several years ago. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Galileo receiver
Hello, would it be possible to use an hybrid GPS/Galileo receiver instead of a GPS receiver? Galileo (although it is not available yet, but the receivers are) will be more accurate than GPS Futhermore building this into the phone will make that you can use Galileo with the same phone instead of having to buy something else when you want to use it - the 'usable lifetime' of the phone will be increased. There are several hybrid receivers yet - see www.u-blox.com for example. I don't know things about pricing - just an idea. Kind regards, Hans Bakker ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Galileo receiver
Hans Bakker wrote: Hello, would it be possible to use an hybrid GPS/Galileo receiver instead of a GPS receiver? Galileo (although it is not available yet, but the receivers are) will be more accurate than GPS Futhermore building this into the phone will make that you can use Galileo with the same phone instead of having to buy something else when you want to use it - the 'usable lifetime' of the phone will be increased. It's very unlikely that GPS will go away in 10 years. So, at best you're looking at a slight upgrade - 2-3m error in position to 1m or a bit less. For most things, this isn't important. You're not going to be walking round blindfolded in traffic, using tones to tell you left/right. And DGPS can get you better positions with the existing hardware - at the cost of downloading a couple of hundred bytes. Currently dual mode chipsets tend to be more expensive. Eventually - P2 or so maybe it may be a good idea. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
