Misleading title: Re: Greenphone is not GPL (was RE: At the risk of being flamed :State of software)
On Friday 24 August 2007 23:08:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > doesn't contain any actual applications. Qtopia Platform is a set of > applications built on Qtopia Core, which are not all licenced under the > GPL. Looking at the Trolltech website, there is "Qtopia Open Source > Edition" however, which "is a near-complete package of the Qtopia Phone > Edition and Qtopia Platform source code. It includes an extensive source > code for Qtopia applications and libraries.". I don't work for Trolltech nor do I want to turn this into a qtopia-interest list, but please read a bit more carefully: Q: What does the package contain? A: Qtopia Open Source Edition contains everything that is in the commercial source version, except Safe eXecution Environment (SXE) – the security benefits of a “sandbox” on the device with the benefits of a native application approach – digital rights management (DRM) and telephony components. If you want check on the exact components, see: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qtopia-components.html The bottom line is the previous subject is completely false - please, let's not try to diminish any other OpenSource effort by spreading FUD no matter how much we _all_ like Openmoko, Neo1973 and the teams who made it possible. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Greenphone is not GPL (was RE: At the risk of being flamed :State of software)
> Be careful that you look at exactly what is covered under that GPL > licensing. In order to gain access to the phone stack for the Greenphone > (a must for my purposes) you have to pay them almost $5K for a commercial > license. I think Qtopia Core is what's covered under the GPL. Qtopia core is the complete framework for application including all the windowing & rendering stuff plus all the nice QT widgets for stuff like networking etc. It doesn't contain any actual applications. Qtopia Platform is a set of applications built on Qtopia Core, which are not all licenced under the GPL. Looking at the Trolltech website, there is "Qtopia Open Source Edition" however, which "is a near-complete package of the Qtopia Phone Edition and Qtopia Platform source code. It includes an extensive source code for Qtopia applications and libraries.". I really need to get the LCD up and running on my phone and start trying these things out! :-) I may just wait for a GTA02 and try it out on that, assuming it will come with OpenGL ES libraries. (Anyone?) Cheers, Tom ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Greenphone is not GPL (was RE: At the risk of being flamed : State of software)
On Friday 24 August 2007 21:29:15 John Seghers wrote: > Be careful that you look at exactly what is covered under that GPL > licensing. In order to gain access to the phone stack for the Greenphone > (a must for my purposes) you have to pay them almost $5K for a commercial > license. A valid point here, but not really relevant. The phone stack is probably one of the things that is very chipset specific - I played around with embedded GSM modules from various manufacturers, and while generally they had the same AT commands, they required separate handling routines because of different extensions, timing specifics or simply implementation bugs. My guess is that the stack is a developed on commercial SDK-s for specific GSM chipsets and might include non-GPL code which might be a no-go for having these licensed as GPL by Trolltech (having roughly the same status as does the GPS daemon code in OpenMoko, but I'm guessing here). So in any case, I think that it is by far easier to write a GSM phone stack (especially having already written a couple :) ) than a complete GUI framework. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Greenphone is not GPL (was RE: At the risk of being flamed : State of software)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Licensing > = > As mentioned, Qtopia is avaliable under the GPL. Strictly speaking it is > "more" open than GTK+ which is distributed under the LGPL (Lesser GPL). ... > On the other hand, Qtopia is avaliable under the GPL (The full on GPL, not > a "GPL-like" license, the GPL itself). Be careful that you look at exactly what is covered under that GPL licensing. In order to gain access to the phone stack for the Greenphone (a must for my purposes) you have to pay them almost $5K for a commercial license. See the top line of the table on this page: http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone/greenphonesdk - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
