Re: greetings from the freecalypso project

[Nick]

Quoth m...@dmatthews.org:
> Please excuse touch of plug and slight bit of off-topic-ness, but just to let 
> anyone here with interest in free (as in source code available) baseband 
> firmware, that the freecalypso project is making strides.

Congratulations folks. I haven't had the time or energy to 
participate in the project at all, but I'm really glad you're making 
such good strides.

Keep it up! :)

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greetings from the freecalypso project

[mail]

Please excuse touch of plug and slight bit of off-topic-ness, but just to let 
anyone here with interest in free (as in source code available) baseband 
firmware, that the freecalypso project is making strides.

Progressing on from the stable leo2moko release for the freerunner made some 
time ago, we are hopefully not too far away from offering a firmware compiled 
entirely from source code (remaining binary blobs removed) by GCC.

We are particularly excited with recent progress targeting the Motorola C139, 
very much a work in progress, but calls and SMS work and our firmware runs the 
GUI!

Make a glance at 

https://www.freecalypso.org 

and 

https://www.freecalypso.org/howtos/

Best wishes

--
David Matthews
m...@dmatthews.org

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Re: greetings from the freecalypso project

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote:

> If you have voluntarily chosen to obey a law that deems the abandonware
> in question to be proprietary rather than public domain, it is YOUR
> problem and not ours.

You are reminding me of this talk and cartoon by Nina Paley.

http://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/10/22/copyright-is-brain-damage/
https://vimeo.com/50481436

-- 
bye,
pabs

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Re: greetings from the freecalypso project

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM, David Matthews wrote:

> Please excuse touch of plug and slight bit of off-topic-ness, but just to let 
> anyone here with interest in free (as in source code available) baseband 
> firmware, that the freecalypso project is making strides.

Are you planning to rewrite the proprietary source code from TI/etc so
that freecalypso could be released under a Free Software license?

-- 
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pabs

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Re: greetings from the freecalypso project

[Spacefalcon the Outlaw]

Paul Wise  wrote:

> Are you planning to rewrite the proprietary source code from TI/etc so
> that freecalypso could be released under a Free Software license?

Absolutely not.  The 1000 person-years that would be required for such
a task should instead be spent doing something more productive, like
searching for a cancer cure.  Anyone who spends his or her time
reimplementing perfectly good existing code merely because of license-
worshipping concerns is guilty of contributing to human suffering, and
thus a disgrace in my eyes.

If you have voluntarily chosen to obey a law that deems the abandonware
in question to be proprietary rather than public domain, it is YOUR
problem and not ours.

SF

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Re: greetings from the freecalypso project

[Mychaela Falconia]

Paul Wise  wrote:

> You are reminding me of this talk and cartoon by Nina Paley.
>
> http://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/10/22/copyright-is-brain-damage/
> https://vimeo.com/50481436

Her talk is wonderful, I agree with her 100%, she should be an
inspiration to everyone here.  Thanks for posting the links.

M~

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Greetings

[Tomi N/A]

Hi everyone,

I just joined the list after having read the last month or so worth of
archives and can only say...I'm simply not buying a phone until I can
buy the first Neo, one that comes equipped with WiFi. I've never paid
for a phone more than 15 euros (usually signing a yearly contract
instead), but I'm willing to spend a couple of hundred euros for a
computing platform packed into a phone form factor and almost
unprecedented level of integration into it's environment (touch
screen, GPS, GPRS, GSM, WiFi, accelerometers).

Also, I think openbeacon is a great product and would like to see
something like that in a future version of Neo, the use case being
attaching cheap RFID tags to my keys, my wallet etc. so that Neo could
detect moving away from the marks and could take action (beep, record
last location, whatever). From what I've read, it seems that
openbeacon is limited to a relatively small (10cm) range: I'd like it
to be more in the range of a meter.

I am a developer, spending a lot of my time working with java and
would very much like to see some kind of java running on the device
both as a door opener to a see of existing applications (e.g. e-book
readers) and so that I could use my knowledge and motivation to
produce new applications for the Neo.

Cheers,
Tomislav

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Re: Re: greetings and a question

[Mikko Rauhala]

to, 2007-07-26 kello 22:07 -0700, tyler laing kirjoitti:
 What I meant is, in the consumer version, will this be possible? And I
 meant driver, not drive. I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough in my first
 question. Thanks for your time!

First of all, the first respondent was in fact incorrect. Even the
development version has Bluetooth, which _can_ be used for wireless
networking between Neos and/or computers. The range is smaller than with
WiFi, as is the bandwidth, but at least the latter is likely to be quite
enough for most uses.

The mass-market Neo's AR6K will add ad-hoc wifi capabilities, adding
bandwidth and range at the cost of more power.

Both will of course require connection setup control software, but that
shouldn't be too much of a burden.

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Re: greetings and a question

[Brendan Reid]

 is, is it possible to have the Neo1973 connect via Peer-to-peer wireless
 networking to another computer/phone?


not til October at least.current version has no wi-fi
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison


Is there a drive yet for it?


many people talking about it. :-)
if that is what you mean
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Re: Re: greetings and a question

[tyler laing]

What I meant is, in the consumer version, will this be possible? And I meant 
driver, not drive. I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough in my first question. 
Thanks for your time!Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:25:46 +0100Subject: Re: 
greetings and a questionis, is it possible to have the Neo1973 connect via 
Peer-to-peer wireless networking to another computer/phone?not til October at 
least.current version has no 
wi-fihttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison   
Is there a drive yet for it?many people talking about it. :-)if that is 
what you mean
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Greetings from Sergei Bubka ;) - Re: Open Moko - GPL?

[Robert Michel]

Salve Ole, Sean!

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:

 On 11/30/06 12:41 AM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Come to think of it: You should always value your customers and give
  them incentive to buy more from you. So a trade up might apply to the
  v2-v3 transition as well.
 
 It's an interesting idea. At this point let me just sit on it. I need to
 figure out if this (internally) would be even possible.

Ohh noo - Ole, you have remind Sean to the strategie of the
pole vaulter Sergei Bubka - he could jump much much more higher
then the others, but he did it in 1cm  stepps, so for years 
(1984-1994) he travelled from competition to competition and every 
time they paid him enough, he achieve a new world record,
otherwise he only won that competition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bubka 

Ole, and now please think what you have Sean/FIC make think
- of course would it be easy to let some features out for
giving the costumers a value to buy more.

I don't see the use to make thoughts about v2-v3 - now.
;)

rob



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