Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-02 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Thank you Kevin!

That is really good news...

So by setting up a Midwest group we're really just making freerunner friends
near by!

Well that sounds great.  So I guess the best reason for a local 10 pack is
being able to all meet and open up the box and not wait for it to be shipped
again.

Well I'm stoked!



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30
> minutes from you.
>
> Kevin Dean wrote:
> > Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve
> > gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be
> > broken up by region.
> >
> > It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD
> > where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country").
> >
> > $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping.
> >
> > Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack)
> > back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which
> > would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39.
> >
> > Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a
> > volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if
> > shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways.
> >
> > For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to
> > work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The
> > diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less
> > than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper.
> >
> > The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's
> > actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said,
> > I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much
> > money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short
> > could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on
> > the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG
> > meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it
> > shipped.
> >
> > Neat. :)
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> That's quite useful, thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  > I think this is what  you're looking for:
> >>  >
> >>  >
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >  > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >  > wrote:
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs
> so you
> >>  >  > > >  could do this.
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this?
> I'm
> >>  >  > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and
> even
> >>  >  > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of
> crap to
> >>  >  > > wade through.
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > Thanks!
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > >
> >>  >  > > >  --
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > >  Steven Kurylo
> >>  >  > > >
> >>  >  > > >
> >>  >  > > >
> >>  >  > > >  ___
> >>  >  > > >  Openmoko community mailing list
> >>  >  > > >  community@lists.openmoko.org
> >>  >  > > >  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >>  >  > > >
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  > > ___
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> >>  >  > > community@lists.openmoko.org
> >>  >  > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >>  >  > >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  >
> >>  >  > --
> >>  >  > Geoff Ruscoe
> >>  >  > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Paul Buede
If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30
minutes from you.

Kevin Dean wrote:
> Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve
> gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be
> broken up by region.
>
> It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD
> where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country").
>
> $3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping.
>
> Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack)
> back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which
> would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39.
>
> Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a
> volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if
> shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways.
>
> For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to
> work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The
> diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less
> than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper.
>
> The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's
> actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said,
> I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much
> money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short
> could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on
> the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG
> meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it
> shipped.
>
> Neat. :)
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> That's quite useful, thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > I think this is what  you're looking for:
>>  >
>>  >  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >  > wrote:
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
>>  >  > > >  could do this.
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
>>  >  > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
>>  >  > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
>>  >  > > wade through.
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > Thanks!
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > >  --
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > >  Steven Kurylo
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > > >  ___
>>  >  > > >  Openmoko community mailing list
>>  >  > > >  community@lists.openmoko.org
>>  >  > > >  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>>  >  > > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > ___
>>  >  > > Openmoko community mailing list
>>  >  > > community@lists.openmoko.org
>>  >  > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>>  >  > >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  > --
>>  >  > Geoff Ruscoe
>>  >  > Sigma Visions Computer Consulting
>>  >  > ___
>>  >  >  Openmoko community mailing list
>>  >  >  community@lists.openmoko.org
>>  >  >  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>>  >  >
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>>  >
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve
gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be
broken up by region.

It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD
where I live (which is pretty close to "across the country").

$3,690 + $14.40 = 3704.4 delivered or $370.44 per phone before shipping.

Here's the beautiful thing. Shipping a single unit (from a 10 pack)
back, from Frederick, MD to Fremont, CA is $9.95 by UPS Ground which
would bring the total cost per unit to $380.39.

Assuming that Openmoko's Fremont shipping place is NOT getting a
volume discount then the savings over a single unit would be $28.56 if
shipped ACROSS COUNTRY both ways.

For fun, I decided what it would cost to ship the unit from home to
work (as might be done if buying regionally) in Alexandria, VA. The
diffrerence in shipping is barely noticable, that a shipment of less
than 60 miles makes it less than $2 cheaper.

The point is, I horribly overestimated UPS shipping costs and there's
actually quite a bit of savings from going in on a 10-pack. That said,
I also discovered that doing regional purchases doesn't save much
money over doing national purchases. Guys in groups falling short
could easily pick up a small group across the country and cash in on
the bulk savings. People picking up their phones (perhaps at a LUG
meet) can even score an extra $8 to $10 savings over having it
shipped.

Neat. :)

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's quite useful, thanks!
>
>
>
>  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I think this is what  you're looking for:
>  >
>  >  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > >
>  >  > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  > wrote:
>  >  > >
>  >  > > >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
>  >  > > >  could do this.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
>  >  > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
>  >  > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
>  >  > > wade through.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Thanks!
>  >  > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >  --
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > > >  Steven Kurylo
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >  ___
>  >  > > >  Openmoko community mailing list
>  >  > > >  community@lists.openmoko.org
>  >  > > >  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>  >  > > >
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>  >  > >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > --
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
That's quite useful, thanks!

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this is what  you're looking for:
>
>  http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html
>
>
>
>  On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > > >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
>  > > >  could do this.
>  > >
>  > > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
>  > > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
>  > > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
>  > > wade through.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks!
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > > >  --
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > >  Steven Kurylo
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >  ___
>  > > >  Openmoko community mailing list
>  > > >  community@lists.openmoko.org
>  > > >  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>  > > >
>  > >
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>  > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Tomas Di Domenico
I think this is what  you're looking for:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
> > >  could do this.
> >
> > Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
> > subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
> > considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
> > wade through.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > >
> > >  --
> >
> >
> >
> > >  Steven Kurylo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ___
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread ian douglas

Kevin Dean wrote:

Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this?


From Steve's Email to the Community list April 24 at 12:44pm Pacific 
time with a subject of "10 PACK UPDATE!!!" :

"Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."

In an Email around that same week, he had given the weight of about 3 
pounds for 10 units, which I remember thinking sounded too light for 10 
units (unless he meant 3lbs per phone?), and had given the dimensions of 
the larger box that would contain all 10 boxes but I don't recall those 
offhand. He had quoted about $70 to ship a 10-pack to somewhere in 
Europe and guessed it would be ~$20 to ship within the US.


For those of us coordinating a 10-pack order, I guess we'll be 
responsible too for getting smaller boxes to ship in, plus whatever 
postage/shipping costs to distribute the smaller boxes to the other people?


If Steve's throwing in a pouch and headset for 10-pack orders, then I 
doubt the larger box will contain 10 pre-packaged ready-to-ship boxes 
with the pouch/headset already inside?


-id

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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
> >  could do this.
>
> Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
> subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
> considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
> wade through.
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
> >  --
> >  Steven Kurylo
> >
> >
> >
> >  ___
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
>  could do this.

Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
considering that I know it came from Steve, that's a lot of crap to
wade through.

Thanks!

>
>  --
>  Steven Kurylo
>
>
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
They have provided the specs in a different email stream.

But don't forgot you're going to have to pay for the shipping for an
individual item from CA if you order a single.

And there are extras when you or 10 together.



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack
> purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger
> than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the
> case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY
> works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device.
>
> Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner
> packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single
> using weight?
>
> Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a
> Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person
> getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge
> a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is
> $10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the
> Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your
> savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko.
>
> Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in
> bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus
> individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be
> used to organize bulk purchases?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Tim Shannon
Or you could just drive to pick up your freerunner, and spend around $300 in
gas.

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack
> purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger
> than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the
> case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY
> works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device.
>
> Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner
> packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single
> using weight?
>
> Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a
> Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person
> getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge
> a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is
> $10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the
> Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your
> savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko.
>
> Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in
> bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus
> individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be
> used to organize bulk purchases?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Steven Kurylo
>  Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in
>  bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus
>  individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be
>  used to organize bulk purchases?

If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
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Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack
purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger
than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the
case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY
works if it costs LESS to ship or pick-up your device.

Are there any size or weight dimensions known about the Freerunner
packages? How much will the 10-pack weigh? How much will a single
using weight?

Assuming you found 10 people to each chip in for a 10 pack you'd get a
Freerunner for $369 USD and save $30 USD. This assumes that the person
getting the Freerunners doesn't charge you to ship it, doesn't charge
a handling fee, doesn't screw you out of your money. If shipping is
$10 then that drops your savings to $20. If (like I suspect) the
Freerunner SINGLE unit costs about $20 USD to ship via UPS your
savings really drops to about $10 over buying directly from Openmoko.

Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in
bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus
individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be
used to organize bulk purchases?

Thanks.

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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I'm all for a Kentucky Group, but most importantly I want to make sure we
all get packages of 10 together.

If we can get 10 for Kentucky that's fine, but if we get 8 or 9 then its not
:-).

However if we can start at least by getting our midwest together and then
start splitting off... I'm not sure what the best approach is, I just know
that when they go on sale I want to have the 10 pack that I'm on figured out
so that we're good to go immediately.

So whether that's Kentucky or Mid West or I help organize Mid-West and then
switch back to Kentucky --  I don't mid at all.

Cheers!


On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Staley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Like I mentioned before, I actually have a group of 4 here at the
> University of Kentucky that want to buy.  And I believe that Donnie
> Jones said that he also was at this University and was interested.  That
> makes 5 in Lexington, Ky.  Sorry they are not all on the list, I will
> try to get them to put their names on there.  (Dan Staley and John
> Sterling are the 2 names currently on there from my group)
>
> But anyway, if 5 more people from around the Kentucky area want to join
> up, we wouldn't have to spread out all across the midwest...
>
> -Dan Staley
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 13:52 -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
> > Yes that is exactly the group page I was talking about.
> >
> > I have added a Midwest section just above the Indiana / Kentucky
> > section.
> >
> > If everyone can move their own name to it from their respective
> > sections so we can see where we're at.
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven **  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We could use this page:
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales
> >
> > -Steven
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Geoff Ruscoe
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Should we create a midwest group or something?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in
> > Cincinnati.
> > > >
> > > > -Adam
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Dan Staley
Like I mentioned before, I actually have a group of 4 here at the
University of Kentucky that want to buy.  And I believe that Donnie
Jones said that he also was at this University and was interested.  That
makes 5 in Lexington, Ky.  Sorry they are not all on the list, I will
try to get them to put their names on there.  (Dan Staley and John
Sterling are the 2 names currently on there from my group)

But anyway, if 5 more people from around the Kentucky area want to join
up, we wouldn't have to spread out all across the midwest...

-Dan Staley


On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 13:52 -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
> Yes that is exactly the group page I was talking about.
> 
> I have added a Midwest section just above the Indiana / Kentucky
> section.
> 
> If everyone can move their own name to it from their respective
> sections so we can see where we're at.
> 
> Thanks everyone!
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven **  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We could use this page:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales
> 
> -Steven
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Geoff Ruscoe
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Should we create a midwest group or something?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in
> Cincinnati.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> > >
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> 
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Yes that is exactly the group page I was talking about.

I have added a Midwest section just above the Indiana / Kentucky section.

If everyone can move their own name to it from their respective sections so
we can see where we're at.

Thanks everyone!



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven ** <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:

> We could use this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales
>
> -Steven
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Should we create a midwest group or something?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Steven **
We could use this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales

-Steven

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Should we create a midwest group or something?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan DeLuca
Here is one more from Fort Worth, TX to get your 10 midwest people.

On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:32:06 -0400
"Geoff Ruscoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Excellent.  I think that would get us up to 9.  If everyone is interested in
> joining together.
> 
> I would like to get this figured out so we are ready when the neo is
> released!
> 
> -Geoff
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Steven ** <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> 
> > You could add in Iowa.  I think there's two interested from
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Iowa-Ames
> >
> > -Steven
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks
> > like
> > > we are going to have to combine some groups.
> > >
> > > I noticed that Tennessee, Viriginia, Kentucky, and Indiana still don't
> > get
> > > us to 10, but its closer.  Anythoughts?
> > >
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Should we create a midwest group or something?



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati.
>
> -Adam
>
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Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread adam

I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati.

-Adam


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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Excellent.  I think that would get us up to 9.  If everyone is interested in
joining together.

I would like to get this figured out so we are ready when the neo is
released!

-Geoff



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Steven ** <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:

> You could add in Iowa.  I think there's two interested from
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Iowa-Ames
>
> -Steven
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks
> like
> > we are going to have to combine some groups.
> >
> > I noticed that Tennessee, Viriginia, Kentucky, and Indiana still don't
> get
> > us to 10, but its closer.  Anythoughts?
> >
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Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Steven **
You could add in Iowa.  I think there's two interested from
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Iowa-Ames

-Steven

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks like
> we are going to have to combine some groups.
>
> I noticed that Tennessee, Viriginia, Kentucky, and Indiana still don't get
> us to 10, but its closer.  Anythoughts?
>
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Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks like
we are going to have to combine some groups.

I noticed that Tennessee, Viriginia, Kentucky, and Indiana still don't get
us to 10, but its closer.  Anythoughts?
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