Re: Happy New Year from FSO
[cut] Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and HI Mickey, I was looking at (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO. Can you provide this data? But don't get too excited, currently I need this for CU. BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 17:05 +0100 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and HI Mickey, I was looking at (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO. Our paypal address is coret...@freesmartphone.org -- this goes to the whole FSO core team. BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala? Unfortunately yes, after Openmoko stopped funding us, my colleagues started diving into their studies to finish those (which is a good thing) -- so for the 6 months, I have been Mr. Lone Rider ... and due to Vala's immaturity it has been a wild ride :) In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any financial trouble. I really believe in the APIs and the architecture we have with FSO1, so I just had to work so much to get the critical mass done, in order to get more people on board then. This year will be different, as I have some other contracts to work on non-FOSS. We're still trying to gather any FSO-based jobs, but with us lacking a showcase on (non-Openmoko) hardware, it's very tough. Don't get me wrong, I love the FreeRunner as it got the whole movement going, but if FSO wants to have a chance to survive, it's vital to finding newer platforms. Cheers, -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Don't get me wrong, I love the FreeRunner as it got the whole movement going, but if FSO wants to have a chance to survive, it's vital to finding newer platforms. Cheers, -- :M: Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should still have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is planning to shift to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check with him if he can ship it to you http://openblog.methril.net/2008/09/first-openmoko-image.html http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-datasheet.htm Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
2010/1/14 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any financial trouble. Wow! You are amazing. Thanks for doing this, I'm sure it will pay off in the future. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:16 +0100 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2010/1/14 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any financial trouble. Wow! You are amazing. Thanks for doing this, I'm sure it will pay off in the future. I agree with Michał - your commitment is amazing! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:52 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja: Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should still have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is planning to shift to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check with him if he can ship it to you Sure, if he no longer is using it, I'd like to have a look at it. Regards, -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Hi, i'm the silent man here ;) On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:52 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja: Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should still have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is planning to shift to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check with him if he can ship it to you Sure, if he no longer is using it, I'd like to have a look at it. As i told to rakshat, i sent the board with other electronic devices to Brazil, i hope to have it there in 60 days (aprox. as It's traveling by ship). Michael, it would be a pleasure to get more effort on it once i have it in Brazil. If i receive in time to come back in April, i would sent you if you are still interested and i didn't do any progress ;) Regards, Regards, -- :M: -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: There is still hope. I like the form factor of the Palm Pre very much. If we get access to the modem, the rest should be relatively simple. Seems like the Motorola Droid is similar hardware-wise to the Palm Pre. Im still googling to know the exact specs, but seems promising. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: (or whatever device you run FSO on). Btw how are going the Palm Pre reverse engineering effort? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Sonntag, den 03.01.2010, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: (or whatever device you run FSO on). Btw how are going the Palm Pre reverse engineering effort? Somewhat disappointing. Although some progress is being made (and we're still working on it), the modem communication proved to be a complete show stopper. Apparantly Palm is using one of Qualcomm's binary protocols, which is very complex to reverse engineer :/ -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: (or whatever device you run FSO on). Btw how are going the Palm Pre reverse engineering effort? Somewhat disappointing. Although some progress is being made (and we're still working on it), the modem communication proved to be a complete show stopper. Apparantly Palm is using one of Qualcomm's binary protocols, which is very complex to reverse engineer :/ I had asked, because Im waiting to a device to replace my freerunner. My only requirement is nice audio quality (any mobile phone out there is ok), I want to run fso on it, and 3G. I hoped such device surfaces within a year (ie. until 2011) or even Palm Pre could be this device ... Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Sonntag, den 03.01.2010, 15:18 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: (or whatever device you run FSO on). Btw how are going the Palm Pre reverse engineering effort? Somewhat disappointing. Although some progress is being made (and we're still working on it), the modem communication proved to be a complete show stopper. Apparantly Palm is using one of Qualcomm's binary protocols, which is very complex to reverse engineer :/ I had asked, because Im waiting to a device to replace my freerunner. My only requirement is nice audio quality (any mobile phone out there is ok), I want to run fso on it, and 3G. I hoped such device surfaces within a year (ie. until 2011) or even Palm Pre could be this device ... What about the Nokia N900? I don't know about the GSM modem, but at least its got a quite open Linux userspace... (And I'm really happy with it :D) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Sonntag, den 03.01.2010, 15:18 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: (or whatever device you run FSO on). Btw how are going the Palm Pre reverse engineering effort? Somewhat disappointing. Although some progress is being made (and we're still working on it), the modem communication proved to be a complete show stopper. Apparantly Palm is using one of Qualcomm's binary protocols, which is very complex to reverse engineer :/ I had asked, because Im waiting to a device to replace my freerunner. My only requirement is nice audio quality (any mobile phone out there is ok), I want to run fso on it, and 3G. I hoped such device surfaces within a year (ie. until 2011) or even Palm Pre could be this device ... There is still hope. I like the form factor of the Palm Pre very much. If we get access to the modem, the rest should be relatively simple. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Am Sonntag, den 03.01.2010, 15:42 +0100 schrieb Marcel: What about the Nokia N900? I don't know about the GSM modem, but at least its got a quite open Linux userspace... AFAIK we can't even charge the battery N900 with FOSS, so I'd say there's a whole set of different showstoppers lurking when attempting to bring a free OS to the N900. The modem itself is using a binary protocol as well, as opposed to the Palm Pre though it seems to be somewhat documented. Unfortunately this time I didn't seem to be eligible for a Nokia developer discount, that's pretty much the reason why I don't have a N900. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 16:32 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: we can't even charge the battery N900 with FOSS, so I'd say there's a whole set of different showstoppers lurking when attempting to bring a free OS to the N900. The modem itself is using a binary protocol as well, as opposed to the Palm Pre though it seems to be somewhat documented. Unfortunately this time I didn't seem to be eligible for a Nokia developer discount, that's pretty much the reason why I don't have a N900. More informations are available here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo I wonder if we could use(so replace maemo with) stock omap free software such as: x-load u-boot linux-omap kernel And look at what works and what doesn't If we could find a way to charge the battery in some way,and use stock omap free software it would be great. By the way we now have suspend to ram with omap CPU. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Happy New Year from FSO
In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! 2009 was a turbulent year for us, the year where Openmoko stopped supporting us and we had to show our belief in the project by just continuing with as much effort as possible. Thanks to all contributors and users of our APIs. 2010 will be a very critical year for FSO, perhaps the most critical ever -- since it's going to show whether we dive into oblivion being overrun by the big guys, or whether we can establish and strengthen our niche. Middleware always has this problem of invisibility -- what people recognize are applications, not so much the driving software layers below. In order to be a bit more visible, I'd like all of you who are using FSO to join Ohloh[1] and state that you are either a contributor and/or using FSO. If all goes well, 2010 will be the year where we finally migrate all remaining FSO services to C (or Vala, to be exact), hence delivering a significant speedup for your FreeRunner (or whatever device you run FSO on). Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and are also available for contract work. Thanks for your support! (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
2010/1/2 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you too, and thanks for all your work on FSO! And Happy New Year to all list readers! Best wishes, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
Mickey, congratulations for taking FSO this far and all the best and some good luck in 2010! Wolfgang On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:31:22PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! 2009 was a turbulent year for us, the year where Openmoko stopped supporting us and we had to show our belief in the project by just continuing with as much effort as possible. Thanks to all contributors and users of our APIs. 2010 will be a very critical year for FSO, perhaps the most critical ever -- since it's going to show whether we dive into oblivion being overrun by the big guys, or whether we can establish and strengthen our niche. Middleware always has this problem of invisibility -- what people recognize are applications, not so much the driving software layers below. In order to be a bit more visible, I'd like all of you who are using FSO to join Ohloh[1] and state that you are either a contributor and/or using FSO. If all goes well, 2010 will be the year where we finally migrate all remaining FSO services to C (or Vala, to be exact), hence delivering a significant speedup for your FreeRunner (or whatever device you run FSO on). Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and are also available for contract work. Thanks for your support! (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
keep up the good work and good luck! happy new year y On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc wrote: Mickey, congratulations for taking FSO this far and all the best and some good luck in 2010! Wolfgang On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:31:22PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! 2009 was a turbulent year for us, the year where Openmoko stopped supporting us and we had to show our belief in the project by just continuing with as much effort as possible. Thanks to all contributors and users of our APIs. 2010 will be a very critical year for FSO, perhaps the most critical ever -- since it's going to show whether we dive into oblivion being overrun by the big guys, or whether we can establish and strengthen our niche. Middleware always has this problem of invisibility -- what people recognize are applications, not so much the driving software layers below. In order to be a bit more visible, I'd like all of you who are using FSO to join Ohloh[1] and state that you are either a contributor and/or using FSO. If all goes well, 2010 will be the year where we finally migrate all remaining FSO services to C (or Vala, to be exact), hence delivering a significant speedup for your FreeRunner (or whatever device you run FSO on). Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and are also available for contract work. Thanks for your support! (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! Happy New Year too 2009 was a turbulent year for us, the year where Openmoko stopped supporting us and we had to show our belief in the project by just continuing with as much effort as possible. Thanks to all contributors and users of our APIs. 2010 will be a very critical year for FSO, perhaps the most critical ever -- since it's going to show whether we dive into oblivion being overrun by the big guys, or whether we can establish and strengthen our niche. Middleware always has this problem of invisibility -- what people recognize are applications, not so much the driving software layers below. In order to be a bit more visible, I'd like all of you who are using FSO to join Ohloh[1] and state that you are either a contributor and/or using FSO. If all goes well, 2010 will be the year where we finally migrate all remaining FSO services to C (or Vala, to be exact), hence delivering a significant speedup for your FreeRunner (or whatever device you run FSO on). I hope FSO becomes the telephony middleware in Linux, just because is a re-design and comes with other approach than older ones. Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, and are also available for contract work. Thanks for your support! (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso -- :M: ___ Smartphones-userland mailing list smartphones-userl...@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-userland -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! Thanks to you and the rest of the FSO team for what you have achieved to date and hope 2010 is indeed the year for FSO to prevail and go from strength to strength. regards and best for the New Year Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
