Re: How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
Am 06.03.2012 um 07:58 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 23:02, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: I have prepared a Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04_Group_Tour_Donations_Hub That's an excellent idea! I hope it gets used a lot! Me too. Christ van Willegen But it looks as if nobody is interested so far in getting a cheaper GTA04. Who proves me wrong? Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 06.03.2012 um 07:58 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 23:02, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: I have prepared a Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04_Group_Tour_Donations_Hub That's an excellent idea! I hope it gets used a lot! Me too. Christ van Willegen But it looks as if nobody is interested so far in getting a cheaper GTA04. Who proves me wrong? Nikolaus I'd like to - but how? I've already preordered one GTA04 and would be willing to donate a second one. How to proceed? Order in Nikolaus' shop and write my name into the Wiki? I would offer 500 EUR, leaving the phone to someone who can do kernel/API development and only would have to pay the remaining 166 EUR or whatever. But also I'm not clear about the situation: are there still PCB's in stock to sell, do we all have to wait till end of March or April, which both are mentioned on the website? How many people do actually have already a GTA04 and are developing on it? A bit puzzled - Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
Hi Alex, Am 08.03.2012 um 17:34 schrieb Alexander Lehner: On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 06.03.2012 um 07:58 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 23:02, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: I have prepared a Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04_Group_Tour_Donations_Hub That's an excellent idea! I hope it gets used a lot! Me too. Christ van Willegen But it looks as if nobody is interested so far in getting a cheaper GTA04. Who proves me wrong? Nikolaus I'd like to - but how? I've already preordered one GTA04 and would be willing to donate a second one. How to proceed? Order in Nikolaus' shop and write my name into the Wiki? It looks as if we are in the strange situation that there are more donations than persons who want to have one... Even if subsidized. As a donator, just wait that people who want to have a donation, show up on the wiki page. Then, look through project proposals and contact those who did make a proposal. And if you agree, I would suggest that he/she places an order in the shop and you make some agreement about the payment (we can also combine two payments into a single one). I would offer 500 EUR, leaving the phone to someone who can do kernel/API development and only would have to pay the remaining 166 EUR or whatever. But we could also add the reversed direction of getting into contact: if you want to donate, add your contact data and the conditions (e.g. kernel/API development searched) But also I'm not clear about the situation: are there still PCB's in stock to sell, do we all have to wait till end of March or April, which both are mentioned on the website? Both. Well, we are currently out of stock because new boards come in so slowly, but I hope we have new boards next week. So it is more or less a matter of urgency to take one from stock vs. group tour. How many people do actually have already a GTA04 and are developing on it? We have so far shipped more than 50 GTA04 units in total, but I see only a handful doing (or reporting) substantial development. A bit puzzled - I hope I could clarify some aspects. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: But we could also add the reversed direction of getting into contact: if you want to donate, add your contact data and the conditions (e.g. kernel/API development searched) I had used cofundus to good effect to get some applications written for the Freerunner. I am not sure if the site is still up. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: It looks as if we are in the strange situation that there are more donations than persons who want to have one... Even if subsidized. [...] I hope I could clarify some aspects. Great, thanks. I put myself on the wiki. Thinking about this strange situation - what kind of support would you need? I'm actually a professional Linux software developer but mainly on a userlevel stage, so no or minimal experience with kernel and driver. Thus, I wanted to wait (as many others, I guess) for the basics to be ready and then do application development or porting. Needless to say that I also lack of spare time. But if there's something I could do, I'd think about getting one of those pieces for myself and try to hack on it. A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
Am 05.03.2012 um 22:06 schrieb arne anka: my idea of a donation was in the first place to get us nearer, my god to thee .. ehm .. nearer the 350 units required. ie in the first place to help people who can't afford the full price, since it would mean the most value for every euro donated. if that proves not feasible, the second best solution would to pay for units not (yet) sold -- and maybe give those away to developers. reducing the group tour price is not an option for me -- and certainly not without all 350 units being sold. and even then i'd donate to fund project infrastructure as proposed, the least effort would be applications for such donations would be brought forth on these lists -- then we could decide, who recieves a donation and how to proceed to make sure, it really is used to order a GTA04. Essentially this calls for a page/list where people seeking a GTA04 but who can't afford it themselves write down their project ideas and those who want to donate can contact them. If they agree they can subscribe for a unit. I have prepared a Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04_Group_Tour_Donations_Hub So please start to fill it in and use it. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community? Group Tour Donations Hub
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 23:02, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: I have prepared a Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04_Group_Tour_Donations_Hub That's an excellent idea! I hope it gets used a lot! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
