Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Thompson
I'll add something to this that I was recently reminded of.  The freezes occur 
much more frequently with GTK based apps.  I have a utility sort of app I 
wrote that I leave running all the time.  After one of the upgrades (several 
months ago), I noticed that elementary based apps were significantly faster 
than GTK ones; so, I rewrote my app in elementary.  After that, the freezes 
didn't happen nearly as often.

Last weekend, I was using a GTK based app a fair amount and experienced 
several freezes.

Josh

On Friday April 16, 2010, Josh Thompson wrote:
 I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge
  case hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it.  In
  my case, I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something
  I do that is graphics related that causes the freeze.  It's never
  something repeatable, but it is always something related to the contents
  of the screen being updated.  I think that's what you are describing as
  well.
 
 I've not reported it before because it is so random and difficult to debug.
   I do software development professionally and know how hard it is to help
  someone with a problem that can't be intentionally reproduced.
 
 I'm using SHR-T.  The image is dated March 3rd, 2010.  I downloaded it and
  the latest kernel image at the same time on March 10th.  It is kernel
  version 2.6.29-rc3.  This is the most stable image I have run yet.  I
  tried doing some upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I
  reflashed the image.  With this image, I'm probably down to only having
  this type of freeze maybe once every 2 weeks or so.
 
 I've never tried fbdev.
 
 If anyone of the devs have some suggestions as to how to try to debug this,
 I'd be happy to try.  Maybe a script that periodically gathers and saves
  some data that can be reviewed after rebooting?
 
 Josh Thompson
 
 On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
  I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no
  one else said that they see similar problems.  This time I'll try to
  be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response.
 
  Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of
  fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and
  buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in.  My only recourse is to
  pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then
  be corrupting the filesystem.
 
  It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular
  action.  Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting
  up:
  - boot up and wait for UI to appear
  - click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard
  - click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm
  - freeze.
  On other occasions, that same sequence works find.  Some times the
  freeze happens after a day or more of use.
 
  I see this in Debian, which is my main distro.  I also see it whenever
  I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being
  able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
  fbdev.)
 
  Does anyone else see this?
  If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
  on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
  Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
  pulling out the battery?
 
  Many thanks!
 
   Neil
 
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-30 Thread Neil Jerram
On 27 April 2010 22:35, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
 [21474543.91] s3c2410-wdt s3c2410-wdt: watchdog inactive, reset
 disabled, irq enabled


 Not sure, are you running watchdog process?

Yes, at least I believe so:

debian-gta02:~# ps waux | grep watchdog
root  1124  0.0  1.2   1632  1604 ?SLs  08:08   0:00
/usr/sbin/watchdog

(Sorry for the slow response!)

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-27 Thread Neil Jerram
On 19 April 2010 12:23, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:

 Yes you need to configure the userland watchdog to do something
 useful. Like check that you have no processes in disk sleep (D) state
 and that SSH server is running etc.

I just noticed that my dmesg says:

[21474543.91] s3c2410-wdt s3c2410-wdt: watchdog inactive, reset
disabled, irq enabled

Is that a problem?  If so, what should I do to fix it?

Thanks,
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-27 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
 [21474543.91] s3c2410-wdt s3c2410-wdt: watchdog inactive, reset
 disabled, irq enabled


Not sure, are you running watchdog process?

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-19 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 19 April 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
 On 17 April 2010 00:20, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On 15 April 2010 00:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
  Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
  wear less :-)
 
  Thanks, I'm doing that now.  Must switch back to glamo to see if it works
  now...
 
 Perhaps interestingly... I switched back to glamo, and before very
 long I got a freeze again - and the watchdog didn't do anything.  That
 is, it didn't cause the phone to reboot, and the phone stayed frozen
 for at least 10 minutes, until I decided to pull out the battery.
 
 Is it possible that the watchdog userspace process would not notice
 the freeze?  If not, does that mean that my kernel must have frozen
 too?
 
 Thanks for any further ideas!

Watchdog hardware usually works by causing a reset if it doesn't get poked in 
a given time interval. Since there's a kernel driver involved I assume that's 
the case here. If the freeze, be it kernel or user space, stops the watchdog 
being poked then you get a restart. You may be seeing the kernel continue 
while the glamo freezes. Or I may be making the wrong assumptions about how 
this watchdog works ;-)

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
 Watchdog hardware usually works by causing a reset if it doesn't get poked in 
 a given time interval. Since there's a kernel driver involved I assume that's 
 the case here. If the freeze, be it kernel or user space, stops the watchdog 
 being poked then you get a restart. You may be seeing the kernel continue 
 while the glamo freezes. Or I may be making the wrong assumptions about how 
 this watchdog works ;-)

Yes you need to configure the userland watchdog to do something
useful. Like check that you have no processes in disk sleep (D) state
and that SSH server is running etc.

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Yes you need to configure the userland watchdog to do something
 useful.  Like check that you have no processes in disk sleep (D) state
 and that SSH server is running etc.

Which watchdog daemon would that be, and hos do you configure it.
The only ones I've seen were trivial (like busybox's) and didn't seem to
come with any way to do such useful checks.


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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:
 Which watchdog daemon would that be

It's the normal one that everyone's been using since 1996 :-)

$ apt-cache show watchdog
Package: watchdog
Priority: extra
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 296
Maintainer: Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org
Architecture: amd64
Version: 5.8-1
Depends: libc6 (= 2.7), debconf (= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, makedev (= 2.3.1-24) 
| udev, lsb-base (= 3.2-14)
Filename: pool/main/w/watchdog/watchdog_5.8-1_amd64.deb
Size: 82278
MD5sum: 55a47d716655a19d231fccbbe9f1095a
SHA1: f5d9d9ab33f5127c3699b5b0e46efd5ec7d9700f
SHA256: 27188ae9c2ae83ed87712479b912b73253dcae666d50c4873d5127ef62310442
Description: A software watchdog
 The watchdog program writes to /dev/watchdog every ten seconds.  If
 the device is opened but not written to within a minute, the machine
 will reboot. This feature is available when the kernel is built with
 'software watchdog' support (standard in Debian kernels).
 .
 The ability to reboot will depend on the state of the machine
 and interrupts.
Homepage: http://watchdog.sourceforge.net
Tag: interface::daemon, role::program, use::monitor


, and hos do you configure it.

$ cat /home/share/neo/2010-03-13/etc/watchdog.conf
#ping   = 172.31.14.1
#ping   = 172.26.1.255
#interface  = eth0
#file   = /var/log/messages
file= /etc/fstab
#change = 1407

# Uncomment to enable test. Setting one of these values to '0' disables it.
# These values will hopefully never reboot your machine during normal use
# (if your machine is really hung, the loadavg will go much higher than 25)
max-load-1  = 24
max-load-5  = 18
max-load-15 = 12

# Note that this is the number of pages!
# To get the real size, check how large the pagesize is on your machine.
#min-memory = 1

#repair-binary  = /usr/sbin/repair
#test-binary=
#test-timeout   =

watchdog-device = /dev/watchdog

# Defaults compiled into the binary
#temperature-device =
#max-temperature= 120

# Defaults compiled into the binary
#admin  = root
#interval   = 10
#logtick= 1

# This greatly decreases the chance that watchdog won't be scheduled before
# your machine is really loaded
realtime= yes
priority= 1

# Check if syslogd is still running by enabling the following line
#pidfile= /var/run/syslogd.pid
pidfile = /var/run/dropbear.pid

watchdog-timeout= 42


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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Which watchdog daemon would that be
 It's the normal one that everyone's been using since 1996 :-)

Duh!  Thanks for making me finally see the obvious,


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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-18 Thread Neil Jerram
On 17 April 2010 00:20, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 15 April 2010 00:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
 wear less :-)

 Thanks, I'm doing that now.  Must switch back to glamo to see if it works 
 now...

Perhaps interestingly... I switched back to glamo, and before very
long I got a freeze again - and the watchdog didn't do anything.  That
is, it didn't cause the phone to reboot, and the phone stayed frozen
for at least 10 minutes, until I decided to pull out the battery.

Is it possible that the watchdog userspace process would not notice
the freeze?  If not, does that mean that my kernel must have frozen
too?

Thanks for any further ideas!

   Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Josh Thompson
I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge case 
hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it.  In my case, 
I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something I do that is 
graphics related that causes the freeze.  It's never something repeatable, but 
it is always something related to the contents of the screen being updated.  I 
think that's what you are describing as well.

I've not reported it before because it is so random and difficult to debug.  I 
do software development professionally and know how hard it is to help someone 
with a problem that can't be intentionally reproduced.

I'm using SHR-T.  The image is dated March 3rd, 2010.  I downloaded it and the 
latest kernel image at the same time on March 10th.  It is kernel version 
2.6.29-rc3.  This is the most stable image I have run yet.  I tried doing some 
upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I reflashed the image.  With 
this image, I'm probably down to only having this type of freeze maybe once 
every 2 weeks or so.

I've never tried fbdev.

If anyone of the devs have some suggestions as to how to try to debug this, 
I'd be happy to try.  Maybe a script that periodically gathers and saves some 
data that can be reviewed after rebooting?

Josh Thompson

On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
 I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no
 one else said that they see similar problems.  This time I'll try to
 be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response.
 
 Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of
 fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and
 buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in.  My only recourse is to
 pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then
 be corrupting the filesystem.
 
 It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular
 action.  Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting
 up:
 - boot up and wait for UI to appear
 - click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard
 - click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm
 - freeze.
 On other occasions, that same sequence works find.  Some times the
 freeze happens after a day or more of use.
 
 I see this in Debian, which is my main distro.  I also see it whenever
 I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being
 able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
 fbdev.)
 
 Does anyone else see this?
 If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
 on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
 Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
 pulling out the battery?
 
 Many thanks!
 
  Neil
 
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Josh Thompson
Timo,

Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on 
the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery contacts. 
:)

Thanks,
Josh

On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
  Does anyone else see this?
 
 I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that
 started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521
 
  If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
  on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
 
 What kernel?
 
  Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
  pulling out the battery?
 
 Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
 wear less :-)
 
 
 
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net writes:
 Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on 
 the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery 
 contacts. 

echo s3c2410_wdt  /etc/modules
sudo modprobe s3c2410_wdt
sudo apt-get install watchdog

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 15 April 2010 06:17, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:27:36AM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install xf86-video-fbdev
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package xf86-video-fbdev.

 Is that SHR just too old, would you say?

 Hi,

 I'm sorry, I was sure only for SHR-U not SHR-T..
 I've built it in SHR-T feeds now too.

Thanks Martin.  I'll have a go again with that over the weekend.

  Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 April 2010 13:45, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote:
 I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge case
 hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it.  In my case,
 I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something I do that is
 graphics related that causes the freeze.  It's never something repeatable, but
 it is always something related to the contents of the screen being updated.  I
 think that's what you are describing as well.

Yes, sounds like it.  Thanks for contributing your experience.

 I'm using SHR-T.  The image is dated March 3rd, 2010.  I downloaded it and the
 latest kernel image at the same time on March 10th.  It is kernel version
 2.6.29-rc3.  This is the most stable image I have run yet.  I tried doing some
 upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I reflashed the image.  With
 this image, I'm probably down to only having this type of freeze maybe once
 every 2 weeks or so.

FWIW, it's much more frequent than that for me.

I haven't done a careful survey of incidence with various kernels, but
I'm sure I've seen this freeze with all of the following, and usually
within only a few hours of use.
- Timo's -moredrivers kernel
- the current Debian 2.6.29 openmoko-gta02 kernel
- the SHR-T kernel from mid January 2010.

Regards,
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 April 2010 13:59, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net writes:
 Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon?  It would also save wear on
 the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery 
 contacts.

 echo s3c2410_wdt  /etc/modules
 sudo modprobe s3c2410_wdt
 sudo apt-get install watchdog

Thanks for that.  I have had watchdog installed for some time, but
never knew the part about the s3c2410_wdt module.

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 15 April 2010 00:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
 Does anyone else see this?

 I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that
 started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521

Hmm, interesting.  But I don't think I've ever seen a freeze or crash
when running fbdev.

FWIW, I have:
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -l *xserver* | grep ii
ii  x11-xserver-utils  7.5+1
 X server utilities
ii  xserver-common 2:1.7.6-2
 common files used by various X servers
ii  xserver-xorg   1:7.5+5
 the X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core  2:1.7.6-2
 Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-dev   2:1.7.6-2
 Xorg X server - development files
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.5+5
 the X.Org X server -- input driver metapacka
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev   1:2.3.2-4
 X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics   1.2.1-1
 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-tslib   0.0.6-3
 tslib touchscreen driver for X.Org/XFree86 s
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom   0.10.3+20100109-1
 X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev   1:0.4.2-1
 X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-glamo
0.0.0+20091108.git9918e082-2 X.Org X server -- SMedia Glamo display
drive
ii  xserver-xorg-video-v4l 1:0.2.0-4
 X.Org X server -- Video 4 Linux display driv

Is the problem perhaps fixed in 2:1.7.6-2, and I happened to be lucky
in skipping 2:1.7.6-1 ?

 If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
 on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?

 What kernel?

All of these:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2326996 Jan 12 14:44
/boot/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_oma-andy-2a04ce8203d7d0f1.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1928400 Mar  3  2009
/boot/uImage.bin-2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1449260 Feb 20 23:04
/boot/uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100118.gita15608f2

The last 2 of which are the Debian kernels:
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -l *openmoko* | grep ii
ii  linux-image-2.6.28-openmoko-gta02  20090105.git69b2aa26-3
 Linux 2.6.28 kernel image for the Openmoko Neo Freerunner
ii  linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02  20100118.gita15608f2-2
 Linux 2.6.29 kernel image for Openmoko GTA02 Neo FreeRunner

And this SHR-T kernel:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1934408 Jan 25 19:54 uImage-2.6.29-rc3

 Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
 wear less :-)

Thanks, I'm doing that now.  Must switch back to glamo to see if it works now...

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Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Neil Jerram
I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no
one else said that they see similar problems.  This time I'll try to
be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response.

Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of
fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and
buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in.  My only recourse is to
pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then
be corrupting the filesystem.

It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular
action.  Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting
up:
- boot up and wait for UI to appear
- click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard
- click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm
- freeze.
On other occasions, that same sequence works find.  Some times the
freeze happens after a day or more of use.

I see this in Debian, which is my main distro.  I also see it whenever
I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being
able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
fbdev.)

Does anyone else see this?
If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?
Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
pulling out the battery?

Many thanks!

 Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:33:57PM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
 able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
 fbdev.)

Have you tried to switch to fbdev in SHR? It's as easy as in debian.
opkg install xf86-video-fbdev and update xorg.conf

Regards,

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Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr 
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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Neil Jerram
On 14 April 2010 23:52, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:33:57PM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
 able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
 fbdev.)

 Have you tried to switch to fbdev in SHR? It's as easy as in debian.
 opkg install xf86-video-fbdev and update xorg.conf

Ah, that's great, thank you!  I'll remember that for my next SHR try.

 Neil

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Neil Jerram
On 14 April 2010 23:52, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:33:57PM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
 able to try SHR for very long.  (In Debian, I can just switch back to
 fbdev.)

 Have you tried to switch to fbdev in SHR? It's as easy as in debian.
 opkg install xf86-video-fbdev and update xorg.conf

I remembered that I have SHR in NAND, but maybe it's too old, or I'm
missing something:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cat /etc/version
201001251558
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jan 25 20:44:53 CET 2010
armv4tl unknown
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg update
Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//all/Packages.gz
Inflating http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//all/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/shr-all
Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz
Inflating http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/shr-armv4
Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/Packages.gz
Inflating http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/shr-armv4t
Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//om-gta02/Packages.gz
Inflating http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//om-gta02/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/shr-om-gta02
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install xf86-video-fbdev
Collected errors:
 * Cannot find package xf86-video-fbdev.
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list -A | grep fbdev
gst-plugin-fbdevsink - 0.10.12-r0.4 - GStreamer plugin for fbdevsink
gst-plugin-fbdevsink-dev - 0.10.12-r0.4 - GStreamer plugin for
fbdevsink (development files)

Is that SHR just too old, would you say?

Thanks,

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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
 Does anyone else see this?

I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that
started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521


 If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault
 on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further?

What kernel?

 Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than
 pulling out the battery?

Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts
wear less :-)



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Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:27:36AM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install xf86-video-fbdev
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package xf86-video-fbdev.
 
 Is that SHR just too old, would you say?

Hi,

I'm sorry, I was sure only for SHR-U not SHR-T..  
I've built it in SHR-T feeds now too.

Regards,

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