Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
c_c wrote: Hi, Seems like you /usr/share/applications/ desktop files are not standard. Can you send me a few .desktop files? I want to see whether the files are in binary or text. Plus then I can play with them here to see if I can parse them correctly. Thanks. Hi, thanks for investigating. Here is my whole application http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2979744/applications.tar.gz applications.tar.gz - -- jahckal -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.16-tp2969146p2979744.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
c_c wrote: Hi, jahckal wrote: When i try to choose Set Application, i see Application as a title of the screen and line with sth like @hh etc. and it closes with Segmentation fault. Well, it seems like there is a problem with the parsing of the files in /usr/share/applications. Can you post your ~/.launcher/launcher.db ? I think so. I've found my icons in hidden (out of the screen) Uncategorized category. But it looks really bad, and i'm sure it's sortdesk and its subfolders in /usr/share/applications. All folders name in applications are shown with strange signs. I know of course that when i will have launcher i don't need sortdesk (and any folders in applications) but so far it is installed. Here is my http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2973476/launcher.db launcher.db . - -- jahckal -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha-0.15%29-Release-tp2969146p2973476.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, Here's the latest ipk. Changes :- * Multitasking :-) * better layout * no more shifting of category list out of the screen * should not indicate received calls * clears sms / call indication after these icons are clicked http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2973477/launcher_0.15_arm.ipk launcher_0.15_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha-0.15%29-Release-tp2969146p2973477.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
I installed version 0.15 and it works very well. (not stress tested yet). First time starting it after installing, it contains lots of categories with names like %**. (I just deleted them) one feature request: renaming category. I want that pressing toolbars home-icon gives me launchers home, not that Illumes home. Why this is not part of illume? This is so great. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
bug in version 0.15. Remove non-empty category: these icons are then unreachable. Maybe they should be transferred uncategorised. (Actually these icons can be revived by making category with same name). Is there way to manage categories by commandline, so it can be used with script that installs many applications and categories them same time? -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
one more thing: i am using elmphonelog instead of pyphonelog (because elmphonelog roggs big time!) is there a way to config the executed app? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, Seems like you /usr/share/applications/ desktop files are not standard. Can you send me a few .desktop files? I want to see whether the files are in binary or text. Plus then I can play with them here to see if I can parse them correctly. Thanks. Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha-0.15%29-Release-tp2969146p2975529.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, Here's a minor bug-fix release :- * fixed initial categories not being set up correctly * added renaming categories * fixed layout a bit more - now you can get upto 16 apps in one category * all lists are now sorted * deleting filled categories sets all apps in that cat to uncategorised http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2975577/launcher_0.16_arm.ipk launcher_0.16_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.16-tp2969146p2975577.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, Well - usage intructions are fairly simple. Start it up, click on the settings icon next to the home button and change wallpaper or set up application categories. Home is a category too. So you can choose to have as many and whichever applications on the home page as you wish. Will be out with a version that allows editing categories soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28Proof-of-concept%29-Working-Release-tp2969146p2969506.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28Proof-of-concept%29-Working-App-Release-0.10-tp2969146p2969679.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
2009/5/25 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. I still don't know how to add applications to categories :-( All are empty. It segfaults on Set Application Categories in Preferences in SHR unstable. -- jahckal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, @jahckal - can you run it from a terminal and tell me what error it gives? I'm running it on shr-unstable - and it euns fine. Of course - there will be bugs :-) at this stage. Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! Well, I've been waiting for a decent launcher for some time and paroli is **much** more than a launcher. But the launcher part is a little behind. So - this is what I came up with. Can you clarify what you meant with f.d.o categories? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28Proof-of-concept%29-Working-App-Release-0.10-tp2969146p2969928.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
I like the look, BTW, based on the screenshot.. Haven't tried installing it yet, since I've temporarily (I hope) gone back to QtE... I had been envisioning something similar for a new Paroli UI. I'd like to see the date on the page somewhere (could be in the top bar). I'd also like a way to get at my 'favorite' or 'recently used' apps directly from the home page. Good work. Warren On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI? I think the intent of Paroli was to be a proper home page for OM2009, right? shouldn't it provide all of the functionality this app provides? On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
I think this is so far focused on SHR. Warren Baird wrote: so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI? I think the intent of Paroli was to be a proper home page for OM2009, right? shouldn't it provide all of the functionality this app provides? On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI? Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Where is source codes and compile-instructions? -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:39:38AM -0700, c_c wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! Well, I've been waiting for a decent launcher for some time and paroli is **much** more than a launcher. But the launcher part is a little behind. So - this is what I came up with. Can you clarify what you meant with f.d.o categories? I don't think Paroli should have a launcher, but that's just me :) I'd rather Paroli focused on becoming a good conectivity/telephony/pim application. But the current launcher only shows .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ and doesn't pay attention to the Category information. That Category field is (I think) specified in http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html So the desktop launcher should: 1 create tabs (or something else) per category (because you just need it to separate and spare screen real estate) 2 be able to show only selected categories from the list of defined categories (because the number can quickly grow too large for the screen) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hej, Johny Tenfinger wrote: so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) The launcher in paroli is kind of its disregarded stepchild as I personally don't like the idea of having the illume launcher plus another one on top. A while ago there was also a thread about all this. I still dont see a reason for a second launcher and would rather like to see an action to adapt the illume launcher. This would also mean that it would be universal regardless of the phone-app used. So c_c how about an illume plugin that allows to communicate with the edje object of the filemanager that displays the illume launcher? I would gladly work on the edc files needed for all this and drop the paroli launcher. However still retaining the big clock or provide an easy way to switch it on or off. My 2 cents as they they. /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 05:57:41PM +0200, Mirko Lindner wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) The launcher in paroli is kind of its disregarded stepchild as I personally don't like the idea of having the illume launcher plus another one on top. A while ago there was also a thread about all this. I still dont see a reason for a second launcher and would rather like to see an action to adapt the illume launcher. This would also mean that it would be universal regardless of the phone-app used. So c_c how about an illume plugin that allows to communicate with the edje object of the filemanager that displays the illume launcher? I would gladly work on the edc files needed for all this and drop the paroli launcher. However still retaining the big clock or provide an easy way to switch it on or off. I love the big clock on Paroli's main screen (even when it's redundant with the one on the top panel). Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
I yesterday gave it a try to last testing image of paroli om 2009 and It was fast and clean, and telephony functionalities worked quite well, however, I didn't find how to launch other applications? By your message I understand that paroli has got this kind of feature, is it right? could you give me a clue of how to find and use it? Best regards... P.S: I didn't send a feed back to the list because I couldn't do a deep test so my contribution would not have said anything else new... On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Un saludo -- There is no spoon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi Miguel, it's not super intuitive, but it is documented in the 'how do I get to settings' and 'how do I get Illlume' sections of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#FAQ - basically on the main page hold the option button down for a few seconds to bring up the settings dialog, and then under display hit 'profile' once to bring up the illume top-bar. Then you can launch any applications you'd like from the illume panel. Personally, I think it's a bit odd to have one launcher for all of your other apps, and then the paroli main page as a 'launcher' for the phone/sms/contacts page, but it sounds like people are working on fixing that. Warren 2009/5/25 Miguel Ángel Calderón miguelangel...@gmail.com I yesterday gave it a try to last testing image of paroli om 2009 and It was fast and clean, and telephony functionalities worked quite well, however, I didn't find how to launch other applications? By your message I understand that paroli has got this kind of feature, is it right? could you give me a clue of how to find and use it? Best regards... P.S: I didn't send a feed back to the list because I couldn't do a deep test so my contribution would not have said anything else new... On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Un saludo -- There is no spoon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi Warren, Thanks for your prompt answer. I think I tried it but with a little difference... I thought I had to set the illume profile instead of paroli-illume... I will give another try soon. I agree about the odd way to get a launcher... I'd prefer a common UI to do everything... Miguel. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: Hi Miguel, it's not super intuitive, but it is documented in the 'how do I get to settings' and 'how do I get Illlume' sections of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#FAQ - basically on the main page hold the option button down for a few seconds to bring up the settings dialog, and then under display hit 'profile' once to bring up the illume top-bar. Then you can launch any applications you'd like from the illume panel. Personally, I think it's a bit odd to have one launcher for all of your other apps, and then the paroli main page as a 'launcher' for the phone/sms/contacts page, but it sounds like people are working on fixing that. Warren 2009/5/25 Miguel Ángel Calderón miguelangel...@gmail.com I yesterday gave it a try to last testing image of paroli om 2009 and It was fast and clean, and telephony functionalities worked quite well, however, I didn't find how to launch other applications? By your message I understand that paroli has got this kind of feature, is it right? could you give me a clue of how to find and use it? Best regards... P.S: I didn't send a feed back to the list because I couldn't do a deep test so my contribution would not have said anything else new... On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 22 views and no feedback? I thought this was a much needed app! Hmmm. Shouldn't repeat functionality from Paroli (even if it's currently lacking) like the missed calls, and separation by f.d.o categories are way more needed before I'll give it a try! But good work so far, it looks good! :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Un saludo -- There is no spoon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Un saludo -- There is no spoon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
c_c pisze: Hi, @jahckal - can you run it from a terminal and tell me what error it gives? I'm running it on shr-unstable - and it euns fine. Of course - there will be bugs :-) at this stage. It says nothing :-( Just Segmantation fault. When i try to choose Set Application, i see Application as a title of the screen and line with sth like @hh etc. and it closes with Segmentation fault. Maybe it's sth with my /usr/share/application? I'm using Sortdesk on illume desktop. But if it is only my case maybe this is my earlier issue of dirty hacks with new e-libs names and symlink.. So if you won't find anything i will give it a try in a future. Oh, and i'm using your latest binary now. Johny Tenfinger pisze: Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) Me too. I like concept very much and think that it would be great thing to keep all SHR phone application together. So keep good work, thanks. I would prefer list of categories not to be centered on the screen. I think left allign (but in the center, not left edge of the screen) would be better. Or maybe the same size of buttons for any category? So big to let you have your edited categories fully seen. Maybe 10 or even more signs. Rest cut with . smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
Hi, jahckal wrote: When i try to choose Set Application, i see Application as a title of the screen and line with sth like @hh etc. and it closes with Segmentation fault. Well, it seems like there is a problem with the parsing of the files in /usr/share/applications. Can you post your ~/.launcher/launcher.db ? jahckal wrote: I would prefer list of categories not to be centered on the screen. I think left allign (but in the center, not left edge of the screen) would be better. Elementary doesn't have any spacer concept (like GTK) yet. Hence the flexible layout. Maybe I'll try the layout widget and see how that works out. I was actually thinking of keeping the information icons (there's one for notifications too) on the top line on the left - with the category selector on the top line right. jahckal wrote: Or maybe the same size of buttons for any category? So big to let you have your edited categories fully seen. Maybe 10 or even more signs. Rest cut with . Well, a combolist would suit this best. But since there isn't any, I'm using a hover (I find that hoversel's are v slow). Each button is actually a button and buttons fit text. So - the only way I know to get the sizes right is to pad the names with spaces. That isn't such a nice way though - so I looking for a safer solution. Anyone - any ideas? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28Proof-of-concept%29-Working-App-Release-0.10-tp2969146p2972810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
