Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
I personally would 2nd the motion to try Android on Freerunner, had a great experience up until I couldn't afford to pay the phone bill and stopped playing around with it. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote: Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable. swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to something usable (QtMoko). Since it wasn't mentioned as an alternative, you could also try Anroird on Freerunner 0.2 RC1. No distro war, just another option you could try and see if it works out for you. Niels. _ Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable. swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to something usable (QtMoko). Since it wasn't mentioned as an alternative, you could also try Anroird on Freerunner 0.2 RC1. No distro war, just another option you could try and see if it works out for you. Niels. _ Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, experiences depends. I'm really happy with my Freerunner, and i'm already using it as my only phone for more than year now. But maybe it's just matter of unix experience, spare time and... just good luck ;) Well, I've been running and administering linux desktop systems since 1993, so I don't think it's a matter of unix experience... Maybe it's a matter of different expectations? Are you saying you've never missed a call or found the FR in a state where it wasn't working and had to hard-boot it? I was missing calls and sms's on a pretty regular basis because the phone would hang and I'd get nothing until I noticed and rebooted it... Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Which distro were you using? I recommend QtMoko because it is the best and only usable distro I have found. Make sure you use QtMoko v19 or higher, though, because earlier versions miss some incoming SMS messages, including notifications of new voice mail, until QtEI is restarted. I do not recommend QtMoko v18, even though it is newer than v19, because v18’s 2.6.32 kernel lacks support for both RNDIS and USB mode changing. I was using SHR the most before I gave up. I never tried QtMoko - I had used QtEI for a while, but found it frustrating because most of the interesting software for the FR didn't work on it, although I understand they've fixed that in QtMoko. It was probably about as stable a phone as SHR was. The N900 lacks USB Host support at the hardware level. I guess this does not matter to you, but I might miss it because I have used USB Host multiple times on my FR. Yeah, I'd never used host support on my FR, so that didn't matter to me much. Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
2010-04...@17:02 swoody Unfortunately, this is a pretty bad time as I can't afford to lay out $200USD for a new FreeRunner. I'm a full-time student, and funds are indeed short. I was hoping somebody out there may have an extra FreeRunner, or know hi, if you can read italian (or know how to use a translator ^_^), take a look here: http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/board,58.0.html maybe you can find something interesting -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
2010-04...@17:02 swoody Unfortunately, this is a pretty bad time as I can't afford to lay out $200USD for a new FreeRunner. I'm a full-time student, and funds are indeed short. I was hoping somebody out there may have an extra FreeRunner, or know hi, if you can read italian (or know how to use a translator ^_^), take a look here: http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/board,58.0.html maybe you can find something interesting -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, swoody swo...@ubuntu.com wrote: I am in a bit of a predicament with my current, closed (bleh!) cell phone. The screen stopped working, and incoming and outgoing calls have ceased as well. I tried to have it replaced through my cellular carrier, but they are trying to blame it on me saying that it must be abuse to the phone - with the condition the phone is in physically, this is obviously not the case. So I am rather ticked off with them. The good news is that this is a great opportunity for me to finally make the jump to a *free* phone. Hey Woody, Just a word of warning - the FR is a very fun device to play with - but if you expect it to be a fully functioning phone, you will probably be disappointed. I tried to use it as my cell phone for a long time, and found it *very* frustating - regularly missed calls and had to reboot it because it had hung. I've been using an N900 for a couple of months now, and am very happy with it - isn't quite as open as the FR, but it is open *enough* for me, and it *works*...Of course if laying out $200 for an FR is a problem, then the N900 is probably out of reach... Good luck. Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 20:10, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, swoody swo...@ubuntu.com wrote: I am in a bit of a predicament with my current, closed (bleh!) cell phone. The screen stopped working, and incoming and outgoing calls have ceased as well. I tried to have it replaced through my cellular carrier, but they are trying to blame it on me saying that it must be abuse to the phone - with the condition the phone is in physically, this is obviously not the case. So I am rather ticked off with them. The good news is that this is a great opportunity for me to finally make the jump to a *free* phone. Hey Woody, Just a word of warning - the FR is a very fun device to play with - but if you expect it to be a fully functioning phone, you will probably be disappointed. I tried to use it as my cell phone for a long time, and found it *very* frustating - regularly missed calls and had to reboot it because it had hung. I've been using an N900 for a couple of months now, and am very happy with it - isn't quite as open as the FR, but it is open *enough* for me, and it *works*... Of course if laying out $200 for an FR is a problem, then the N900 is probably out of reach... Good luck. Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca Well, experiences depends. I'm really happy with my Freerunner, and i'm already using it as my only phone for more than year now. But maybe it's just matter of unix experience, spare time and... just good luck ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, experiences depends. I'm really happy with my Freerunner, and i'm already using it as my only phone for more than year now. But maybe it's just matter of unix experience, spare time and... just good luck ;) same here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, experiences depends. I'm really happy with my Freerunner, and i'm already using it as my only phone for more than year now. But maybe it's just matter of unix experience, spare time and... just good luck ;) same here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks for the ideas and input everybody. I am going to try using the FR as my main cellphone, and I am aware of the 'buggy-ness' that this can entail. I feel until I'm proven otherwise that I'm going to aim for this though. Also, I appreciate all the suggestions and pointers to other phones for sale, but I have acquired a FR which should be arriving today - thanks to a very generous person :) - Woody ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
Warren Baird wrote: Hey Woody, Just a word of warning - the FR is a very fun device to play with - but if you expect it to be a fully functioning phone, you will probably be disappointed. I tried to use it as my cell phone for a long time, and found it *very* frustating - regularly missed calls and had to reboot it because it had hung. Which distro were you using? I recommend QtMoko because it is the best and only usable distro I have found. Make sure you use QtMoko v19 or higher, though, because earlier versions miss some incoming SMS messages, including notifications of new voice mail, until QtEI is restarted. I do not recommend QtMoko v18, even though it is newer than v19, because v18’s 2.6.32 kernel lacks support for both RNDIS and USB mode changing. I've been using an N900 for a couple of months now, and am very happy with it - isn't quite as open as the FR, but it is open *enough* for me, and it *works*...Of course if laying out $200 for an FR is a problem, then the N900 is probably out of reach... The N900 lacks USB Host support at the hardware level. I guess this does not matter to you, but I might miss it because I have used USB Host multiple times on my FR. Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable. swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to something usable (QtMoko). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
Warren Baird wrote: Hey Woody, Just a word of warning - the FR is a very fun device to play with - but if you expect it to be a fully functioning phone, you will probably be disappointed. I tried to use it as my cell phone for a long time, and found it *very* frustating - regularly missed calls and had to reboot it because it had hung. Which distro were you using? I recommend QtMoko because it is the best and only usable distro I have found. Make sure you use QtMoko v19 or higher, though, because earlier versions miss some incoming SMS messages, including notifications of new voice mail, until QtEI is restarted. I do not recommend QtMoko v18, even though it is newer than v19, because v18s 2.6.32 kernel lacks support for both RNDIS and USB mode changing. I've been using an N900 for a couple of months now, and am very happy with it - isn't quite as open as the FR, but it is open *enough* for me, and it *works*...Of course if laying out $200 for an FR is a problem, then the N900 is probably out of reach... The N900 lacks USB Host support at the hardware level. I guess this does not matter to you, but I might miss it because I have used USB Host multiple times on my FR. Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable. swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to something usable (QtMoko). Thanks for the advice :) I will see what OS the phone comes with, and I'll play around with that for a bit. Then I will give QtMoko a try and see how that works out. Reading over the disto info on the wiki it seems like QtMoko is the crowd favorite, so I'm hoping it will be reliable as well :) - Woody ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
Hello OpenMoko fans :) I hope this post isn't out of line, but Craigslist and eBay were of no use. I am in a bit of a predicament with my current, closed (bleh!) cell phone. The screen stopped working, and incoming and outgoing calls have ceased as well. I tried to have it replaced through my cellular carrier, but they are trying to blame it on me saying that it must be abuse to the phone - with the condition the phone is in physically, this is obviously not the case. So I am rather ticked off with them. The good news is that this is a great opportunity for me to finally make the jump to a *free* phone. Having been a user of *Free* GNU/linux distros - Trisquel and gNewSense - my cell phone is the last device I own that isn't GPL-friendly. I am hoping to use this opportunity as a chance to learn more in the way of developing and getting a chance to truly enjoy the benefits of *free* software. Unfortunately, this is a pretty bad time as I can't afford to lay out $200USD for a new FreeRunner. I'm a full-time student, and funds are indeed short. I was hoping somebody out there may have an extra FreeRunner, or know someone who is looking to part with one. I have no problems with non-buzz-fixed models, as I would be very interested in doing this hack myself, but I am equally open to the models with this fix. If you can help me out here, or if you know someone who is looking to part ways with a FreeRunner, I would truly appreciate if you got in touch with me. Please feel free to email me directly if you wish, rather than replying to the entire mailing list. Thank you all in advance, and happy hacking! -Woody ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
