Re: Multiple Distro's..
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: 2009/10/24 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com: Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , It is very easy to run two: one on the internal flash and one of the first partition of the SD card, with Qi as the NOR bootloader. Then pressing the power button alone will boot the SD distribution, and pressing AUX+power will allow you to boot the NAND distribution. 1. Qi can't be installed to NOR. 2. Booting from NOR shouldn't be adviced because it initializes some devices in a wrong way which may result in at least increased power consumption. Likely gsm or something else won't work. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
2009/10/26 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: It is very easy to run two: one on the internal flash and one of the first partition of the SD card, with Qi as the NOR bootloader. Then pressing the power button alone will boot the SD distribution, and pressing AUX+power will allow you to boot the NAND distribution. 1. Qi can't be installed to NOR. Yeah, sorry, I meant NAND there. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
Hi, On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Marc Bantle mar...@ntle.de wrote: Various efforts have been made to supply a bootmenu for qi (e.g. by using kexec). I don't know whether they where successful. A few proof-of-concept have beene shown, but so far nobody have shown a complete solution or a step-by-step guide. So us mere users doesn't have a working bootmenu with Qi yet. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Multiple Distro's..
Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , And which is the most preffered for starting developement. Is there a guide to multiple OS on freerunner? I plan to use a 8gb/16gb memory card for this purpose. Any tips or tricks to enhance my experience of the phone?? Eg:- an external small GSM antenna to enhance reception etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
2009/10/24 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com: Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , It is very easy to run two: one on the internal flash and one of the first partition of the SD card, with Qi as the NOR bootloader. Then pressing the power button alone will boot the SD distribution, and pressing AUX+power will allow you to boot the NAND distribution. More distributions are possible, but more complicated to set up and select between. And which is the most preffered for starting developement. If you are thinking of Python, they are all equivalent. If you are thinking of C, I would say that Debian has a slight edge, because you can just install gcc and use the normal toolchain on the FR itself. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
Hi, Aditya Gandhi schrieb: Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , I think the maximum is seven without extra efforts. A possible setup could look like this: Device Number Media /dev Partition Type Content 31, 6 NANDmtdblock6 Dist1 179, 0 SD-Card mmcblk0(raw device) 179, 1 SD-Card mmcblk0p1 primary partition Dist2 179, 2 SD-Card mmcblk0p2 primary partition Dist3 179, 3 SD-Card mmcblk0p3 primary partition Dist4 179, 4 SD-Card mmcblk0p4 extended partition logical partitions 179, 5 SD-Card mmcblk0p5 logical partition Dist5 179, 6 SD-Card mmcblk0p6 logical partition Dist6 179, 7 SD-Card mmcblk0p7 logical partition Dist7 Off course you can choose a different primary/logical ratio. Is there a guide to multiple OS on freerunner? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD I just had a look. A lot of the information is just wrong or at least outdated. I now understand why most users install qi ;-) Various efforts have been made to supply a bootmenu for qi (e.g. by using kexec). I don't know whether they where successful. I still stay with u-boot for my multi dist setup, cause it has a boot menu. It's only constraint is that the kernel need's to be within the first 2G of the SD-Card (I just prepared a special subdirectory on the first partition). Booting kernels 2M need special boot parameters, but has been reported to work on this list. Eg:- an external small GSM antenna to enhance reception etc. I use one to have a signal on my Desk (antenna outside the window). Cheers, Marc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: And which is the most preffered for starting developement. I think hackable:1 is the east one to get started. It comes with a gcc environment installed. They also released a ready-to-go build environment where you can just untar and chroot and start hacking. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple Distro's..
Hi, Al Johnson schrieb: On Saturday 24 October 2009, Marc Bantle wrote: Hi, Aditya Gandhi schrieb: Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , I think the maximum is seven without extra efforts. A possible setup could look like this: Device Number Media /dev Partition Type Content 31, 6 NANDmtdblock6 Dist1 179, 0 SD-Card mmcblk0(raw device) 179, 1 SD-Card mmcblk0p1 primary partition Dist2 179, 2 SD-Card mmcblk0p2 primary partition Dist3 179, 3 SD-Card mmcblk0p3 primary partition Dist4 179, 4 SD-Card mmcblk0p4 extended partition logical partitions 179, 5 SD-Card mmcblk0p5 logical partition Dist5 179, 6 SD-Card mmcblk0p6 logical partition Dist6 179, 7 SD-Card mmcblk0p7 logical partition Dist7 Off course you can choose a different primary/logical ratio. This is correct for uboot, though there are a few possible complications: * Android will want to use 2 partitions, by default the first two, plus the NAND. Then again it will (by default) install a forked Qi too, which doesn't multiboot well anyway. I've never tried Android. Lucky me ;-) Anyway thanks for adding this. * Certain ext3 formatting options prevent uboot reading the partition, but I haven't checked which ones. My gentoo box makes unreadable ones by default, but fedora makes readable ones. Never ran into this either - using Debian. Is there a guide to multiple OS on freerunner? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD I just had a look. A lot of the information is just wrong or at least outdated. I now understand why most users install qi ;-) Various efforts have been made to supply a bootmenu for qi (e.g. by using kexec). I don't know whether they where successful. I still stay with u-boot for my multi dist setup, cause it has a boot menu. It's only constraint is that the kernel need's to be within the first 2G of the SD-Card (I just prepared a special subdirectory on the first partition). Booting kernels 2M need special boot parameters, but has been reported to work on this list. This is itself wrong, as I'm booting kernels from beyond the first 2G, and probably beyond 4G. Good to know. Last time I tried I didn't succeed. Cheers, Marc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
